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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 17, 2017 21:53:23 GMT -5
Serious question: what drugs are these people on? Even as the bombshell story breaks of the FBI / Obama / Clinton / Russia collusion to sell US Uranium to Russia; and funnel laundered money to the Clinton Foundation; Hillary compares the wild allegation of "Russian hacking the election" to 9/11. Not to be outdone, Harvard Law Professor, Julia Glum (aptly named), writes a delusional scenario where, after a series of impossible events leading to the installation of Hillary Clinton as President: 1. The Trump-Russia investigation, which is based entirely on a fabricated "Dossier" and has yielded nothing of substance, would somehow force the resignation or impeachment of Trump. 2. Pence should then resign since he benefitted from the supposed Russia conspiracy before appointing a vice President would mean 3. Paul Ryan would become President, and out of a sense of honor, choose Hillary as VP, and then HE should resign admitting the GOP doesn't deserve the presidency. 4. Hillary would become President and then, 5. Hillary should appoint Ryan VP out of a sense of political goodwill to "heal the wounds". Friends, I'm watching the left have a collective mental breakdown. Every day yields another insane plot to overthrow the duly elected government of the United States. Say what you will about Newsweek's traditional liberal bent, they've gone off the rails running this. This isn't worthy of Daily Kos. This is nothing short of the ramblings of a lunatic- but anymore this passes for the kind of mainstream thought you find in Newsweek, or in the rest of the fake media... www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-president-lawrence-lessig-post-686077
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Post by Opti on Oct 18, 2017 1:07:10 GMT -5
Yet another drama thread for no good reason. Most people would not even mention one offs that have little chance of occurring. (Confusing unlikely scenario with a plot is almost as extreme as doing the usual one person thinks this so everyone on the left must. )
This thread isn't because Trump was tacky in talking to a soldier's grieving widow, was it?
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Post by resolution on Oct 18, 2017 5:19:37 GMT -5
I don't know why Newsweek would publish anything so ridiculous, but even Hillary knows that she is done and has promised not to run again.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Oct 18, 2017 7:40:39 GMT -5
If you read the article, Newsweek even admits it's a fairy tale.
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Post by Waffle on Oct 18, 2017 7:42:11 GMT -5
I don't know why Newsweek would publish anything so ridiculous, but even Hillary knows that she is done and has promised not to run again. Hillary promised to not run again after she lost to Obama. I foolishly believed her then - I'm not so quick to believe her now.
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Post by Waffle on Oct 18, 2017 7:44:19 GMT -5
Serious question: what drugs are these people on? Even as the bombshell story breaks of the FBI / Obama / Clinton / Russia collusion to sell US Uranium to Russia; and funnel laundered money to the Clinton Foundation; Hillary compares the wild allegation of "Russian hacking the election" to 9/11. Not to be outdone, Harvard Law Professor, Julia Glum (aptly named), writes a delusional scenario where, after a series of impossible events leading to the installation of Hillary Clinton as President: 1. The Trump-Russia investigation, which is based entirely on a fabricated "Dossier" and has yielded nothing of substance, would somehow force the resignation or impeachment of Trump. 2. Pence should then resign since he benefitted from the supposed Russia conspiracy before appointing a vice President would mean 3. Paul Ryan would become President, and out of a sense of honor, choose Hillary as VP, and then HE should resign admitting the GOP doesn't deserve the presidency. 4. Hillary would become President and then, 5. Hillary should appoint Ryan VP out of a sense of political goodwill to "heal the wounds".
Friends, I'm watching the left have a collective mental breakdown. Every day yields another insane plot to overthrow the duly elected government of the United States. Say what you will about Newsweek's traditional liberal bent, they've gone off the rails running this. This isn't worthy of Daily Kos. This is nothing short of the ramblings of a lunatic- but anymore this passes for the kind of mainstream thought you find in Newsweek, or in the rest of the fake media... www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-president-lawrence-lessig-post-686077The bolded part is very similar to a Battlestar Galactica plot. Entertaining sci-fi. Reality - I don't think so.
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Post by zibazinski on Oct 18, 2017 7:48:13 GMT -5
I don't know why Newsweek would publish anything so ridiculous, but even Hillary knows that she is done and has promised not to run again. Hillary promised to not run again after she lost to Obama. I foolishly believed her then - I'm not so quick to believe her now. I'll bet she tries again.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Oct 18, 2017 7:50:19 GMT -5
I don't know why Newsweek would publish anything so ridiculous, but even Hillary knows that she is done and has promised not to run again. Hillary promised to not run again after she lost to Obama. I foolishly believed her then - I'm not so quick to believe her now. Maybe, but the chances are good that Trump will run again in 2020. If that's the case, I don't see her running, why repeat 2016 all over again?
That would leave 2024 and she'd just be too old by then.
The only scenario I see her running again is if Trump isn't running in 2020, and even then, one has to question if the Democratic Party would even nominate her after losing not only once, but twice.
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Post by zibazinski on Oct 18, 2017 7:52:36 GMT -5
They ran her to begin with and she has enough on them to get their nomination again. If trump can't keep any of the promises that got voters to vote for him, and it looks like he can't, he won't get re-elected.
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 18, 2017 7:59:01 GMT -5
They ran her to begin with and she has enough on them to get their nomination again. If Trump can't keep any of the promises that got voters to vote for him, and it looks like he can't, he won't get re-elected. Actually they ran her to begin with and realized she was unpopular, uncharismatic, and didn't pull in the female vote like they thought she might.
Of course I don't know what they'll actually do, but if they are smart, they will run a younger person (Sanders, Clinton and Biden are all fairly long in the tooth) and someone who can galvanize the crowd, something Clinton could never do very well.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Oct 18, 2017 8:17:52 GMT -5
Hillary promised to not run again after she lost to Obama. I foolishly believed her then - I'm not so quick to believe her now. Maybe, but the chances are good that Trump will run again in 2020. If that's the case, I don't see her running, why repeat 2016 all over again?
That would leave 2024 and she'd just be too old by then.
The only scenario I see her running again is if Trump isn't running in 2020, and even then, one has to question if the Democratic Party would even nominate her after losing not only once, but twice.
I don't think so. First given his age and second I don't think he'll want to. I've said it before but I believe Trump ran for president thinking it was the biggest popularity contest of all time. Now that he's in it's dawning on him how much it sucks to be president and that he's never going to be Mr. Popularity he's not going to have any interest in round two. My guess is he'll finish his term then ride out into the sunset on his 15 minutes of fame with book deals and lectures and maybe attempt President Trump: The movie..
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Post by movingforward on Oct 18, 2017 8:33:57 GMT -5
Well, I am hoping neither Clinton or Trump run again. Having those two run again would be like watching Groundhog Day about 50 times in a row.
Like drama, I don't think Trump will run again. He can't take losing so I don't see him risking it. As we have seen a couple times now, Clinton is not very likable (at least to a lot of folks).
Give us new and improved candidates for both parties PLEASE!
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Post by zibazinski on Oct 18, 2017 9:21:53 GMT -5
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Post by dezii on Oct 22, 2017 9:38:16 GMT -5
Serious question: what drugs are these people on? Even as the bombshell story breaks of the FBI / Obama / Clinton / Russia collusion to sell US Uranium to Russia; and funnel laundered money to the Clinton Foundation; Hillary compares the wild allegation of "Russian hacking the election" to 9/11. Not to be outdone, Harvard Law Professor, Julia Glum (aptly named), writes a delusional scenario where, after a series of impossible events leading to the installation of Hillary Clinton as President: 1. The Trump-Russia investigation, which is based entirely on a fabricated "Dossier" and has yielded nothing of substance, would somehow force the resignation or impeachment of Trump. 2. Pence should then resign since he benefitted from the supposed Russia conspiracy before appointing a vice President would mean 3. Paul Ryan would become President, and out of a sense of honor, choose Hillary as VP, and then HE should resign admitting the GOP doesn't deserve the presidency. 4. Hillary would become President and then, 5. Hillary should appoint Ryan VP out of a sense of political goodwill to "heal the wounds". Friends, I'm watching the left have a collective mental breakdown. Every day yields another insane plot to overthrow the duly elected government of the United States. Say what you will about Newsweek's traditional liberal bent, they've gone off the rails running this. This isn't worthy of Daily Kos. This is nothing short of the ramblings of a lunatic- but anymore this passes for the kind of mainstream thought you find in Newsweek, or in the rest of the fake media... www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-president-lawrence-lessig-post-686077You may be correct regarding the Russian investigation...but it is still early into this investigation...as example , look into similar congressional, special prosecutor investigations...it will be interesting to see where it ends up and as in any special prosecution investigation..it can go anywhere...see Clinton...Monica...Not where it was started...Why are u in such a hurry..afraid longer and more thorough it goes something might come up...I know u won't admit it but our Donald is a flawed individual...so far not a Presidency going the right way...believe if we o end up in a war of some kind. it will be blamed on another POTUS ...definitely not our Donald.
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Post by thyme4change on Oct 22, 2017 9:52:53 GMT -5
If they let Hillary run again, I will declare the dems the dumbest party to ever exist.
I think Trump will run again. If he choses not to, he will have to listen to the news say exactly what you all just said - he is afraid to lose again, he can't hack it, etc. The only scenario I see him bowing out is if Ivanka runs, or he dies.
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Post by billisonboard on Oct 22, 2017 10:03:37 GMT -5
They ran her to begin with and she has enough on them ... If they let Hillary run again, ... In the current era of state presidential primaries being used to select delegates to national nominating conventions, I have to question who "they/them" are in these posts.
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Post by billisonboard on Oct 22, 2017 11:22:02 GMT -5
They ran her to begin with and she has enough on them to get their nomination again. ... I wonder what new/additional information she got on "them" between 2008 and 2016 that got her over the top. Or maybe it was a different "they" then. Will "they" be the same "them" in 2020 or a new "they" then? And if "they" are a new "them" then, will she have enough on the "them" then to get her the nomination?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 11:32:25 GMT -5
If they let Hillary run again, I will declare the dems the dumbest party to ever exist. I think Trump will run again. If he choses not to, he will have to listen to the news say exactly what you all just said - he is afraid to lose again, he can't hack it, etc. The only scenario I see him bowing out is if Ivanka runs, or he dies. He only listens to news he likes so that really doesn’t matter..,
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Post by thyme4change on Oct 22, 2017 12:33:00 GMT -5
They ran her to begin with and she has enough on them ... If they let Hillary run again, ... In the current era of state presidential primaries being used to select delegates to national nominating conventions, I have to question who "they/them" are in these posts. The same people who manipulated the primaries in favor of Hillary over Bernie? The reality is the party needs to figure out a way to beat an incumbent president. "They" need a theory that will rally a huge number of their base without alienating the middle / independents. Hillary is not that candidate. If she doesn't know that "they"need to educate her.
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Post by billisonboard on Oct 22, 2017 13:45:32 GMT -5
In the current era of state presidential primaries being used to select delegates to national nominating conventions, I have to question who "they/them" are in these posts. The same people who manipulated the primaries in favor of Hillary over Bernie? ... Oh, that "them"
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Post by dezii on Oct 22, 2017 15:16:31 GMT -5
I don't know why Newsweek would publish anything so ridiculous, but even Hillary knows that she is done and has promised not to run again. Hillary promised to not run again after she lost to Obama. I foolishly believed her then - I'm not so quick to believe her now. Believe her.....
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Post by Phoenix84 on Oct 23, 2017 10:15:35 GMT -5
They ran her to begin with and she has enough on them to get their nomination again. If Trump can't keep any of the promises that got voters to vote for him, and it looks like he can't, he won't get re-elected. I don’t think Clinton will run against Trump again, wheather or not Trump will win if he runs again is a separate issue. It’s too early for me to speculate what his chances are of re election. The point is it would be foolish of the democrats to run her again, particularly against Trump. Whether or not Trump wins is irrelevant.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 23, 2017 16:12:16 GMT -5
If they let Hillary run again, I will declare the dems the dumbest party to ever exist. I think Trump will run again. If he choses not to, he will have to listen to the news say exactly what you all just said - he is afraid to lose again, he can't hack it, etc. The only scenario I see him bowing out is if Ivanka runs, or he dies. I think Trump v. Cuban would be an exciting race- and one I could live with the outcome either way. Because here's the thing- it would cement the defeat of the establishment that right now thinks they're coming back.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 23, 2017 16:15:32 GMT -5
Hillary is DONE. When I said she would likely not remain healthy enough to finish out a single term, and may not even live that long-- I meant it. This is NOT a "broken toe", folks.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 23, 2017 16:20:22 GMT -5
You also claimed she would be dead in two weeks in July of 2016.
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Post by mmhmm on Oct 23, 2017 16:41:57 GMT -5
Hillary is DONE. When I said she would likely not remain healthy enough to finish out a single term, and may not even live that long-- I meant it. This is NOT a "broken toe", folks. Oh, thank you ever so, Dr. Paul! Please, please, please ejumakate us with your astounding knowledge of metatarsal fractures! We await with bated breath!
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Post by busymom on Oct 23, 2017 16:53:51 GMT -5
I started laughing at #3, because can you even imagine Paul Ryan resigning the presidency? I can't even give the man credit for having a sense of decency. Isn't this the same Paul Ryan whose family received public assistance when he was growing up, & now doesn't want anyone else to have access to the same program?
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Post by tallguy on Oct 23, 2017 16:54:51 GMT -5
Hillary is DONE. When I said she would likely not remain healthy enough to finish out a single term, and may not even live that long-- I meant it. This is NOT a "broken toe", folks. Oh, thank you ever so, Dr. Paul! Please, please, please ejumakate us with your astounding knowledge of metatarsal fractures! We await with bated breath! Hey, I've probably got a couple of those! Never thought it was my toe, though.
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Post by mmhmm on Oct 23, 2017 17:13:50 GMT -5
Oh, thank you ever so, Dr. Paul! Please, please, please ejumakate us with your astounding knowledge of metatarsal fractures! We await with bated breath! Hey, I've probably got a couple of those! Never thought it was my toe, though. Not the first time I've seen someone say they'd broken their toe when, in fact, they'd fractured a metatarsal. If it breaks at the distal end of the metatarsal, I guess it could be looked at either way.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Oct 23, 2017 17:21:10 GMT -5
I started laughing at #3, because can you even imagine Paul Ryan resigning the presidency? I can't even give the man credit for having a sense of decency. Isn't this the same Paul Ryan whose family received public assistance when he was growing up, & now doesn't want anyone else to have access to the same program? Yeah- you can't trust Paul Ryan. He personifies the swamp. He even married a millionaire liberal Democratic K-Street lobbyist (she's a "SAHM" now. Of course.) The good news for you is that he's probably "decent" in every way you regard as "decent" and he would never cut off the welfare spigot. The Paul Ryan budget was always a foil designed to get the GOP base all tingly in their nether regions while it predictably failed.
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