taz157
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Post by taz157 on Jul 27, 2017 8:10:47 GMT -5
For your last question, Yes it would increase his W-2 wages. Taz157, I have a wonderful bookkeeper, I tell her this is what I did, please take care of it for me, She does. Ok. I was answering NoNamePerson, not you, by the way.
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hoops902
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Post by hoops902 on Jul 27, 2017 8:11:44 GMT -5
Or the owner has no head for business. LOL, No head for business, I worked by myself yesterday, I netted a little over a thousand $! Making money is easy. I helped a lot of people, which is the most important part. Have you considered that sometimes "helping people" is not actually truly helping them at all? It's clear you have a soft spot for some people, but have you considered that at some point it just becomes enabling, and that you could really impact someone different who would truly appreciate and grow from the help you can offer?
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OldCoyote
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Post by OldCoyote on Jul 27, 2017 8:18:38 GMT -5
Yes, As a subcontractor I will pay him thirty $ an hour. I think this is one of the most bizarre threads I have ever read. You must love misery, because you keep signing up for more. At this point he is starting a new job, There fore I am no longer his sole employer, I can use him as a sub contractor, when a job is finished I write a check, DONE! At the end of the year I send him a 1099. I pay him $30.an hour, I charge $100, an hour for his time.
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OldCoyote
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Post by OldCoyote on Jul 27, 2017 8:21:37 GMT -5
LOL, No head for business, I worked by myself yesterday, I netted a little over a thousand $! Making money is easy. I helped a lot of people, which is the most important part. Have you considered that sometimes "helping people" is not actually truly helping them at all? It's clear you have a soft spot for some people, but have you considered that at some point it just becomes enabling, and that you could really impact someone different who would truly appreciate and grow from the help you can offer? In this case It was helping customers that were out of business, if they are not running they are not making money.
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hoops902
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Post by hoops902 on Jul 27, 2017 8:22:03 GMT -5
I think this is one of the most bizarre threads I have ever read. You must love misery, because you keep signing up for more. At this point he is starting a new job, There fore I am no longer his sole employer, I can use him as a sub contractor, when a job is finished I write a check, DONE! At the end of the year I send him a 1099. I pay him $30.an hour, I charge $100, an hour for his time. I think you're being pretty optimistic about this magical separation of work and personal life that's going to suddenly happen. If you were capable of just saying "job is finished, I write a check"...then you'd have been doing that as his employer already. That's how normal employment already happens...you come to work, you do your job, you get a check. I don't want to bash you for caring about your employees, I'm just saying it seems unlikely that with the massive personal entanglements you've set up with him as an employee already, it seems unlikely that's just going to disappear purely because he only works for your "sometimes" now.
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OldCoyote
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Post by OldCoyote on Jul 27, 2017 8:28:45 GMT -5
One of the flaws in O.C. character is when he is done he is done!
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hoops902
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Post by hoops902 on Jul 27, 2017 8:34:48 GMT -5
One of the flaws in O.C. character is when he is done he is done! How many times have you said you were done with this employee now? You just can't quit him! I think we all hope it turns into a more conventional employer/employee relationship though.
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tallguy
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Post by tallguy on Jul 27, 2017 9:00:38 GMT -5
Or the owner has no head for business. LOL, No head for business, I worked by myself yesterday, I netted a little over a thousand $! Making money is easy. I helped a lot of people, which is the most important part. Making money is not synonymous with running a business, and particularly with running a business AS a business. Just sayin'
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OldCoyote
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Post by OldCoyote on Jul 27, 2017 9:27:27 GMT -5
It's OK, I am fine with making money!
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OldCoyote
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Post by OldCoyote on Jul 27, 2017 9:29:45 GMT -5
One of the flaws in O.C. character is when he is done he is done! How many times have you said you were done with this employee now? You just can't quit him! I think we all hope it turns into a more conventional employer/employee relationship though. I don't think I said I was done with the employee before.
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Green Eyed Lady
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Jul 27, 2017 9:50:47 GMT -5
Glad you have come up with a hopeful solution that benefits all. I don't have a "head for business" so I don't know if your solution will solve anything or not, but I hope so. I think you are one of the good guys and I like knowing they are still out there. Please do consider what Hoops said about helping turning into enabling. It's a hard line to see sometimes.
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tallguy
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Post by tallguy on Jul 27, 2017 18:55:57 GMT -5
It's OK, I am fine with making money! Sure, but imagine how much MORE you COULD BE making!
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