Discrimination against Asians

[raeoflyte]

Feb 27, 2017 10:47:29 GMT -5 MJ2.0 said:

Feb 27, 2017 10:41:17 GMT -5 mroped said:

Alright, let's play your game or whomever game is this with separating people by race:
-describe to me what is the difference between a Caucasian, a Mongoloid, an African/Negroid and an Indian from a stand point of intelligence, physical strength and so on except the pigmentation of their skin?
In this country, minorities should not be considered "minorities" because the classification as it stands it is arbitrary. There is no scientifical data that would show or prove that one should be given some handicap points just based on the color of their skin.
I know it is done and it is the practice but I believe it is high time that we get rid of it.
Statistics say that in the not so distant future-20 maybe 30 years- whites will be a minority race in this country. As of now, the highest rates of birth are amongst latinos and African American.
So what do we do then? Give white people privileges like preferential treatment when applying for a job?....wait, we are doing that now right?

This racial or whatever division is a state of mind. Children don't know the difference between races or ethnicities. That is something that is taught in the family. Unfortunately the mentality of the divide persists and keeps on being touted, brought up and promoted by politicians on every single political campaign.

me stating fact about how people are classified does not mean that I don't agree with your message. There are some little nuanced differences between the races biologically that are related to their adaptations to their home environment (ex. sickle cell anemia is more prominent among blacks because that's a mutation that helps the body deal with contraction of malaria - commonly found in African countries), but I agree that there is no basis for education/employment discrimination in terms of race/ethnicity. I believe now it is more linked to perceived or actual socio-economic status.

Discrimination is still absolutely alive and thriving today.  Saying it shouldn't be, or that everyone is equal now, doesn't make discrimination go away.  

[gs11rmb]

Feb 27, 2017 10:47:29 GMT -5 MJ2.0 said:

Feb 27, 2017 10:41:17 GMT -5 mroped said:

persists and keeps on being touted, brought up and promoted by politicians on every single political campaign.

me stating fact about how people are classified does not mean that I don't agree with your message. There are some little nuanced differences between the races biologically that are related to their adaptations to their home environment (ex. sickle cell anemia is more prominent among blacks because that's a mutation that helps the body deal with contraction of malaria - commonly found in African countries), but I agree that there is no basis for education/employment discrimination in terms of race/ethnicity. I believe now it is more linked to perceived or actual socio-economic status.

I read this a few days ago: hbr.org/2016/12/research-how-subtle-class-cues-can-backfire-on-your-resume

[MJ2.0]

Feb 27, 2017 10:55:23 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

Feb 27, 2017 10:47:29 GMT -5 MJ2.0 said:

me stating fact about how people are classified does not mean that I don't agree with your message. There are some little nuanced differences between the races biologically that are related to their adaptations to their home environment (ex. sickle cell anemia is more prominent among blacks because that's a mutation that helps the body deal with contraction of malaria - commonly found in African countries), but I agree that there is no basis for education/employment discrimination in terms of race/ethnicity. I believe now it is more linked to perceived or actual socio-economic status.

Discrimination is still absolutely alive and thriving today.  Saying it shouldn't be, or that everyone is equal now, doesn't make discrimination go away.  

 I just said there is no real basis for it, not that it doesn't exist.  I know it does.  And no, everyone is not treated equally now.  I don't know what the answer is, but quotas are absolutely not it. Those only serve to make the ones passed over upset because they feel they were discriminated against, and they make the minorities receiving the jobs/academic slot question if they really deserved it.

I'm really thinking this is a socio-economic issue. When I went to college, I received a race-based scholarship. I met with others who received this. Most of them were middle class and would have been able to attend anyway if they hadn't gotten the scholarship. I also met and befriended a very poor white girl who was there on a full ride because she was brilliant but raised by a single mom of 3-4 who was just barely getting by. So they did take care of the ones who needed the help, but I bet she would have had to perform much better than a minority kid in her shoes to get that full ride.

It's a hard balancing act and everyone won't be happy.

[weltschmerz]

Feb 27, 2017 7:21:36 GMT -5 mroped said:

Feb 26, 2017 19:21:25 GMT -5 MJ2.0 said:

blacks are around 12% of the US population, so I would still very much consider that a minority.

Ok then we start considering that latinos/Hispanics are about 17 and then we have a low percentage of asians then are the Pacific Islanders and then are the foreign born citizen and why not throw in there those of Native American descent?

My point I said that this whole nation is made up of minorities and is about time that we set that aside and get rid of preferential treatment to anybody.
Look at the white people: Irish don't like English, English don't like Germans,Germans don't like Russians, Russians don't like Romanians etc. Technicaly each one is a minority so what can we do to make them all happy? 
Some old buggers, a while back when they didn't have computers and used their nuggets to process thought called them all Americans and made peace amongst them! Maybe we should do the same?!

What? Germans don't like Russians? Russians don't like Romanians?
It's news to me, and I'm Russian.

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 27, 2017 15:23:07 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Feb 27, 2017 7:21:36 GMT -5 mroped said:

Ok then we start considering that latinos/Hispanics are about 17 and then we have a low percentage of asians then are the Pacific Islanders and then are the foreign born citizen and why not throw in there those of Native American descent?

My point I said that this whole nation is made up of minorities and is about time that we set that aside and get rid of preferential treatment to anybody.
Look at the white people: Irish don't like English, English don't like Germans,Germans don't like Russians, Russians don't like Romanians etc. Technicaly each one is a minority so what can we do to make them all happy? 
Some old buggers, a while back when they didn't have computers and used their nuggets to process thought called them all Americans and made peace amongst them! Maybe we should do the same?!

What? Germans don't like Russians? Russians don't like Romanians?
It's news to me, and I'm Russian.

I thought you were Canadian?

[weltschmerz]

Feb 27, 2017 15:30:26 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Feb 27, 2017 15:23:07 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

What? Germans don't like Russians? Russians don't like Romanians?
It's news to me, and I'm Russian.

I thought you were Canadian?

Canadian of Russian descent.

[NastyWoman]

and mroped is (I believe) Romanian

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 27, 2017 15:32:23 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Feb 27, 2017 15:30:26 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

I thought you were Canadian?

Canadian of Russian descent.

Were you born is Russia?

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 27, 2017 15:37:49 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

and mroped is (I believe) Romanian

That I knew because he speaks frequently of his immigration. I never heard Welty speak of immigrating to Canada so I assumed she was born in canada

[weltschmerz]

I was born in Canada to Russian parents but I lived in Russia for a while. Before Perestroika.

[zibazinski]

Shameful ☹️

[moon/Laura]

Feb 25, 2017 10:24:45 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

From the OP link:

"Last year, a young Asian-American named Tiffany Trieu who applied for a graphic design position received a letter from the president of the studio denying her the job because "we've hired so many foreign nationals that it seems time for us to hire an American, or be unfair." Trieu was born in the United States."

Not good.

It would seem that they also assumed that that was her maiden name, rather than considering she could have married someone of Asian descent. Unless they happened to somehow ascertain that she was single. And even if she were single, how would they know that maybe her mother wasn't white and her father Asian? The article doesn't say by what means they arbitrarily decided she was a foreign national other than her name.