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Post by safeharbor37 on Mar 22, 2011 14:11:43 GMT -5
www.theblaze.com/stories/revealed-the-lefts-economic-terrorism-playbook-the-chase-campaign-for-a-coalition-of-unions-community-groups-lawmakers-and-students-to-take-down-us-capitalism-and-redistribute-wealth-power/This is very a interesting link which will not please the liberals on the board, but which helps, in my opinion, explain some of the things we see posted here. It is audio so takes a little time. If you don't have it, don't bother. I post this because it demonstrates as a transcript couldn't, the thought processes of some of these people. They are genuine in their motives, but, of course, don't like to be "outed" because they, like most of their kind, operated best in the dark, outside the mainstream, and where their motives aren't exposed. This isn't so much an argument as it is informative ~ so you can know what's actually going on. Community Organizer on - panel:"Un-governablilty....as Francis Fox Piven and Cloward taught us poor people movements are successful when they create conditions of un-governability and then you win victories."
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 22, 2011 14:19:17 GMT -5
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Post by safeharbor37 on Mar 22, 2011 14:34:57 GMT -5
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Post by Shirina on Mar 22, 2011 14:39:54 GMT -5
No, it is only the opinion of the video maker as to what is going on. To say that this IS what is going on is to turn and opinion into a fact.
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Post by workpublic on Mar 22, 2011 14:44:10 GMT -5
should i sell my JPM stock?
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Post by safeharbor37 on Mar 22, 2011 14:52:41 GMT -5
It's an audio tape recording [not video] without comment. Your comment illustrates my point however.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 22, 2011 15:15:48 GMT -5
It's an audio tape recording [not video] without comment. Your comment illustrates my point however. Doesn't audio mean with comment?
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 22, 2011 15:18:26 GMT -5
Safeharbor's audio tape is surely as valid as anything audio/videoed by Michael Moore.
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Post by ChiTownVenture on Mar 22, 2011 15:24:12 GMT -5
This is the best part. It's almost as good as Paul's "we see you!"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2011 15:38:17 GMT -5
hhmmm.... interesting, safe.
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Post by safeharbor37 on Mar 22, 2011 16:04:15 GMT -5
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Post by safeharbor37 on Mar 22, 2011 16:04:39 GMT -5
No, it means audio. With comment means comments about the audio. I really don't think your comment represents your understanding of the English language and so amounts to little more than trolling.
Pretty much.
Actually the correct phrase would be: "We see you coming." If you don't grasp that, or can't deal with it, Too bad.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2011 17:01:24 GMT -5
Thanks for outing!
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 22, 2011 23:11:26 GMT -5
Definition of Economic Terrorism according the Geneva Centre for Security Policy: "Varied, coordinated and sophisticated or massive destabilizing actions in order to disrupt the economic and financial stability of a state, a group of states, or a society (such as market-oriented western societies) for ideological or religious motives" Recently a jury found 67 year old Bernard Von NotHaus, architecht of the "Liberty Dollar" guilty of "Conspiracy against the United States" and sentenced him to 15 years in prison. He minted coins he called "Liberty Dollars" and he passed them off as legitimate currency. The U.S. Attorney said that he was creating and distributing a counterfeit currency that was very similar to the real dollar. Keep in mind that this is Eric Holder's Justice Department, and read what the attorney said about what Mr. Von NotHaus did, “Attempts to undermine the legitimate currency of this country are simply a unique form of domestic terrorism," Anne Tompkins, U.S. Attorney for the Western District of North Carolina, said in a statement on Friday. “While these forms of anti-government activities do not involve violence, they are every bit as insidious and represent a clear and present danger to the economic stability of this country,” she said. Got it? OK. Now, let's fast forward to this past weekend at The "Left Forum" at Pace University in New York. Francis Fox-Piven, architecht of the "overwhlem and collapse the system" startegy, referred to as the "Cloward-Piven" strategy by left wing radical "SDS" or "Students for a Democratic Society"- the 1960's radical group that birthed unrepentant terrorists, and Obama associates Bill Ayers and his peach of a bride Bernadine Dorn, was discussed there. Here's what one panelist had to say at the largest gathering of left wing nuts, activists, community organizers, et al..."We were talking about why unions are so invested because of their pension plans and why ungovernability as Frances Fox Piven and Cloward taught us. You know, poor people's movements are successful when they create conditions of ungovernability and then you win victories." What does "create conditions of ungovernability" mean? Does it not mean to destabilize? Because if everything is stable, you can govern, am I wrong? This is what I meant when I said we absolutely must have a new political discussion in this country where we start to demand accountability from people who are promoting, inciting, and actively planning nothing short of economic terrorist attacks on our country for the purpose of overturning our government-- revolution. This is treason. This is, at the very least, "Conspiracy against the United States". And we have to start being honest with ourselves. For the most part the left in America are merely misguided people with whom we disagree and for the most part we will be able to defeat them at the ballot box and through the political process, but we also have actual enemies within. These are the radicals working to destroy the United States, collapse the government, and the economic system here, and replace it with a new system, a new government. Folks, that's not permitted. And we should have absolutely ZERO tolerance for it, and for the people pushing it. If they are in office, they should be impeached and removed. If they are members of the public, they should be arrested and charged. We simply have to start taking this internal attack seriously. biggovernment.com/publius/2011/03/22/former-seiu-official-details-plan-to-crash-stock-market-redistribute-wealth/Another guy at the Left Forum, Stephen Lerner, a former top official at SEIU (well, Glenn Beck thinks he was "former" but SEIU wouldn't answer the question directly, so he may well still be at SEIU) was there. He was introduced as SEIU-- as Director of SEIU's "Banking and Finance Campaign". He was the SEIU's man on the Wall Street Reform deal. So, he was the guy going to the Treasury Department and meet on Wall Street Reform. He is also the guy responsible for all those Union Rent-a-Thugs showing up at the private homes of bank executives trespassing, litering, vandalizing, and making threats-- including storming one banker's home where they trapped his young son who was home alone inside. He also launched the "Justice for Janitors" campaign where union rent-a-mobs blocked busy intersections in order to disrupt traffic and dumped trash cans, and generally made union members of themselves-- not really working, but creating plenty of work (and expense) for others. Anyway, here's what SEIU's (or not SEIU's) guy, Stephen Lerner said: "Unions are almost dead. We cannot survive doing what we do, but the simple fact of the matter is community organizations are almost dead also and so I think if you think about what we need to do it may give us some direction. Which is essentially what the folks that are in charge - you know the big banks and everything - what they want is stability. There are actually extraordinary things we could do right now to start to destabilize the folks that are in power and start to rebuild a movement. For example, 10% of homeowners are going back to where you started a quarter of the people who own a home are underwater, right, their home they are paying more for it than it's worth. 10% of those people are now in 'strategic default', meaning they are refusing to pay but they are staying in their home. That's totally spontaneous, right? They figured out it takes a year to kick me out of my home because foreclosure is backed up. I'm going to say I won't pay. It's a good business decision. If you could double that number you would, you could put banks at the edge of insolvency again."
"What would happen if we could organize homeowners in mass to do a mortgage strike? Just say if we get half a million people to agree, we'll agree we won't pay our mortgages. It would literally cause a new financial crisis for the banks, not for us, we would be doing quite well because we wouldn't be paying."
"The folks that control this country care about one thing- how the stock market does, how the bond market does, and what their bonuses is. So I think we need to have a very simple strategy. How do we bring down the stock market, how do we bring down their bonuses, how do we interfere with their ability to be rich and that means we have to politically isolate them, economically isolate them and disrupt them."
"A bunch of us around the country think about who would be a really good company to hate? We decided that it would be JP Morgan Chase based here in New York. And so we're going to roll out over the next couple of months what will...so what we're looking at is in the first week of May can we get enough people together- we're starting now- to really have a week of action in New York with the goal of...I don't want to give details because I don't know which police agents are in the room, but the goal would be that we would roll out of New York the first week in May"And it just gets worse from there-- for the whole audio (23 minutes or so)-- click on over to www.glennbeck.comAnd when I say the White House is the biggest left wing nuthouse I've ever seen-- I mean it. Here are the facts: The nutjob above, Stephen Lerner, worked for Obama's purple mob, SEIU; He has visited the White House at LEAST four (4) times, visited the US Treasury (met with Elizabeth Warren- another left wing nutjob who actually works in Treasury on regulating all the 'little' banks) and that was in December 2010-- not that long ago. He wants to target a US company-- JP Morgan Chase, disrupt NYC, create a mortgage strike to push us back to the brink triggering another financial crisis, and deliberately crash the NYSE to create "instability". On the whole tapes he talks about targeting 10 other states, and adds to the fun a student loan strike. Now, I don't know about you- but I'd call that a "unique form of domestic terrorism" and say that this man and his allies are rebels who represent a "clear and present danger to the the economic stability of the country". Can we get some ARRESTS, please?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 22, 2011 23:12:09 GMT -5
We see you!
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Post by Mkitty is pro kitty on Mar 22, 2011 23:59:36 GMT -5
You can't define a word with the word itself. Try again.
Quoting Wiktionary: (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/comment) Comment: "1. A spoken remark."
Were there spoken remarks? Yes.
The word you were looking for was commentARY: (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/commentary) "1.A series of comments or annotations; especially, a book of explanations or expositions on the whole or a part of some other work."
Don't believe me? I went to Amazon and just picked some movie, "The Simpsons Movie," and guess what it says? (http://www.amazon.com/The-Simpsons-Movie/dp/B000XTJUEK/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1300851235&sr=8-5)
"In addition, the DVD comes loaded with a plethora of extras considering this is all on one single DVD. There are several deleted scenes; and there's a very funny but brief extra entitled "Let's All Go To The Lobby." There are two commentaries for you to enjoy if you wish; and there are great gags all the way through the ending credits."
Note it doesn't have two "comments" (that'd be an awfully quiet movie). I've never heard of a DVD having bonus "comments," but I've heard of dozens that have bonus "commentary."
What he said was a remark, which illustrates my point, and more importantly, your comment (remark) about his comment (remark) defeats your own argument however. Remarkable!
I don't really think your comment (i.e. remark) represents your understanding (?) of the English language, but amounts to little more than elitist, malicious, unsubstantiated, know-it-all trolling (or worse, you actually believe your frequent strawman arguments and your Madame Cleo "so and so thinks" sessions) under the guise of politeness.
Actually the correct phrase would be "We live in a populous world with over 300 million in the United States alone, so the chances of you ever seeing me or seeing me coming are about nil. If by some slim chance you see me (coming), it will probaby be some uneventful event like a pass-by on the street, and no, I don't have a "Hi! I'm mkitty! t-shirt." Neither of you are clairvoyant. It's kind of sad to say, but I guess I have to be painfully obvious: sorry, random people on an anonymous bulletin board on the internet, you have little idea what I'm doing, have been doing, or plan on doing. If you don't grasp that or can't deal with it, there's really bad mix of delusion, ignorance, and egotism upstairs.
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 23, 2011 5:46:54 GMT -5
THE LEFT’S ECONOMIC TERRORISM PLAYBOOK:
Good Stuff again Safeharbor and it is interesting to know the left are probably abiding by this Terrorism Playbook ...
Could it be with a presidential election beginning to take hold that we will see more of the Left's Playbooks, Mantras, Hype, and Politcal Slogans for their Progressive Agenda..??
Can't wait to see it all unfold soon.
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Post by safeharbor37 on Mar 23, 2011 7:15:05 GMT -5
These audios give a good idea of what some of the people you see in public are doing in private. It's a free country and I'm pretty tolerant of what others want to do. The idea here is simply to "out" what they are actually thinking. If you are in with that, OK, but I think it's best when ulterior motives are exposed so that you can make an informed decision. Notice the "other side" goes immediately to obfuscation rather than addressing the issues brought up by these audios. Diverting from the facts is one of their tactics, talking about anything but the truth.
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 23, 2011 7:34:23 GMT -5
Another good source is to meet the liberal media so called journalists in person or better at a Bar and listen to some of their true opinions about the politicians they know personally. Out here we have former Mayor of San Franisco Willy Brown who has been caught making some comments about former Speaker Pelosi who he knows quite well...needless to say after what he said was printed in the SF Chronicle they are no longer friends.
BTW I agree with your "trolling" comment (reply # 11) above and something we just have to endure here, I guess??
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 23, 2011 9:42:58 GMT -5
I think someone here is missing the point. What I posted wasn't "commentary". It's raw audio of a man plotting to destabilize the economy of the United States by creating a financial crisis, targeting American companies for destruction, and causing the collapse of the stock and bond markets.
This is a man who has been to the White House, and met with Treasury. I want to know what THEY knew about this guy, and when they knew it? I want to know why the President's advisors didn't warn him? I want to know who let him in? I want to know if he works for SEIU or not? I want to know if my President is a traitor himself- and I don't think that question is too extreme. I don't want to hear any of this Reverend Wright bullshit about how Obama didn't know how radical this guy was, or didn't know who he was until he heard this. That's crap. This guy has been SEIU since the mid 1990's, and like Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dorn, Van Jones, Valarie Jarrett, Frank Marshall Davis, Reverend Wright, and myriad more-- he's another radical revolutionary with ties to our President. It's high time we start peeling the onion, and taking the advice of Ronald Reagan: Do not be afraid to see what you see.
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Post by ChiTownVenture on Mar 23, 2011 14:00:42 GMT -5
"Actually the correct phrase would be: "We see you coming." If you don't grasp that, or can't deal with it, Too bad."
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 23, 2011 14:02:34 GMT -5
Some of us have seen you coming for years. The spark that got the TEA Party fired up is the progressves taking off the mask and showing us all who they really are. We see you (for who you really are).
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Post by ChiTownVenture on Mar 23, 2011 14:05:41 GMT -5
Some of us have seen you coming for years. The spark that got the TEA Party fired up is the progressves taking off the mask and showing us all who they really are. We see you (for who you really are). "We see you for who you really are" actually makes sense and isn't as creepy and weird.
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Post by safeharbor37 on Mar 23, 2011 23:04:01 GMT -5
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 23, 2011 23:46:22 GMT -5
Nancy Pelosi sent Obama a letter today that said her democratic caucus was coming apart because of Odyssey Dawn and she needed his help to hold them all together on that conflict in Libya....but he may be busy trying to spin his Latin America trip....
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Post by ed1066 on Mar 23, 2011 23:48:58 GMT -5
That's funny, because I totally thought you would...
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 24, 2011 0:00:03 GMT -5
I want an Odyssey Dawn Tee shirt if & when they are avaiable at the PX..
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Post by safeharbor37 on Mar 26, 2011 17:41:56 GMT -5
This is pretty much the tactic of Unions from the beginning. Some were terrorists in the day, most were either communist or communist sympathizers ~ that is; the organizers. Back then many union's names started "International Brotherhood of........." That was a not so subtle code for Communist International. None were "American" in any sense, but were agents of particularly Eastern Europe and Russia. On the other hand, America has always been open to diverse ideas [not everyone, but Americans in general]. Every movement has its counter movement and unionization was [is] not exception. Usually the extremes were eschewed by the average American [+/- one SD]. It is handy to know what these people we see demonstrating represent. Their views are acceptable within the framework of America as most of us understand it, but they do not represent a majority or even a sizable minority. They represent a vested interest intent upon imposing their will on the rest of us. They have co-opted many government workers whose interest is in an ever more powerful government. I recall the beginning of this movement in the eighties when they had just finished the American Auto Industry as the world leader and realized that if they bankrupted another industry, members and potential members would begin to question the wisdom of joining an organization which was intent on destroying their employers [and employees had figured out that when the employers go, so go the jobs]. The obvious solution was to organize workers in an industry that couldn't go bankrupt [the Government] because that employer [the Government] could simply increase taxes and take money away from those who didn't work for the government. Slick plan, eh? Well, here we are. Watching it happen. In case anyone is wondering, the end result is a country in which the government, which controls the means of making a living, and therefore the survival of anyone who wants to survive, is in the hands of government employees. Cuba works that way ~ and who thinks Cuba works better than the US? Well, for example, Michael Moore and, of course, other leftist of that ilk. Most Americans, including most union members do not approve of such, but, unfortunately most aren't aware of what's going on because most of our sources of information are biased in favor of collectivism. If you like Cuba and liked the old Soviet Union, you'll love the New USA [NWO]. The great thing about it is that most will not see it coming and won't even be aware of it after it's established, but, in case you thought your were getting rid of "greedy business," look again. They're still there only now with the power of the government behind them. People get the government they deserve.
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Post by cereb on Mar 26, 2011 19:25:13 GMT -5
No, it is only the opinion of the video maker as to what is going on. To say that this IS what is going on is to turn and opinion into a fact. [/b] Not only that, but the tape is severely edited. Didn't anyone learn anything from the last time someone put something like this out there?
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