Gun activism runs amok

[swamp]

www.cnn.com/2017/02/07/us/dearborn-open-carry-arrest/

I support the right to carry.  I don't support the right to carry while stupid.   These guys are just stupid.  WTF did they think was going to happen?

[spartyparty]

So close!

[MJ2.0]

By the time it was all over, police, who appeared to show restraint, seized guns, ammunition, body armor and ballistic vests, authorities said. In all they recovered four guns, including the loaded AP-14 firearm and a loaded Glock 19 handgun, authorities said. It wasn't immediately clear where the other two weapons were recovered from.

Must... refrain... from making... racial....commentary...

[quince]

It is amazing how the racial commentary engraves itself on your brain, though.

[MJ2.0]

Feb 10, 2017 12:57:30 GMT -5 quince said:

It is amazing how the racial commentary engraves itself on your brain, though.

yeah, because I know the headline would have been different had the idiots making the video been of a different skin color.

[Tennesseer]

Idiots.  Attention seeking idiots.

[quince]

My brother just posted something to Facebook about ICE agents in his neighborhood, and how lucky he is not to be dark skinned and foreign looking.

Spoiler: he's dark skinned and sarcastic all the damn time.

It's OK, though. Racial profiling and differences in outcome in encounters with law enforcement totally isn't a thing.

[MJ2.0]

Feb 10, 2017 13:55:36 GMT -5 quince said:

My brother just posted something to Facebook about ICE agents in his neighborhood, and how lucky he is not to be dark skinned and foreign looking.

Spoiler: he's dark skinned and sarcastic all the damn time.

It's OK, though. Racial profiling and differences in outcome in encounters with law enforcement totally isn't a thing.

nope - everyone bursting into a police station wearing tactical gear and carrying guns will totally be treated the exact same way regardless of skin color.

[quince]

...It's good people weren't shot. Police showing restraint and resolving things without fatality is good. The solution to systemic imbalances is not to ramp up excessive trigger-happiness until everyone is equally ventilated. 

Nonetheless, 

[Virgil Showlion]

I can't believe in that entire article they didn't mention once what the two men hoped to accomplish or what they expected would happen.

[quince]

I think "Open carry doesn't mean march into a police office in tactical gear carrying guns" is a good awareness message to get out to the public.

[grumpyhermit]

They were there to file a complaint because they were "illegally detained" when someone reported suspicious activity, and they were pulled over by police.

Maybe don't run around strapped for battle unless you want to get pulled over and questioned. Just because you legally can, doesn't mean that you won't draw attention and raise concerns about your behavior.

They should just consider themselves lucky that they weren't carrying a BB-gun while black, or they could be dead right now.

[quince]

Ooh, directly stated instead of very clumsily talked around like we were doing! 

[spartyparty]

Some good quotes in here from these loons:


www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2017/02/06/dearborn-police-station-gun-rifle/97544076/

Auditors...always a thorn in the side.

[Virgil Showlion]

"We audit police to see how well they honor the Constitution and people's rights," said Vreeland, who was free after posting $1,500 bond late Sunday night. "We showcase police abuse and abuse of police power in the totalitarian police state that we live in."

Bang up job, nimrod.

[quince]

I mean, if they wanted to have people say "I can't believe, it, people really are that stupid, maybe open carry is a bad idea!", all credit.

[Chocolate Lover]

Feb 10, 2017 16:05:39 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

"We audit police to see how well they honor the Constitution and people's rights," said Vreeland, who was free after posting $1,500 bond late Sunday night. "We showcase police abuse and abuse of police power in the totalitarian police state that we live in."

Bang up job, nimrod.

You know this is an actual last name? I've seen it. Cracks me up every time. 

[ken a.k.a OMK]

It was also a UK maritime surveillance, i.e. anti sub hunter, plane similar to our P3. I saw one while in Iceland working on P3's. 

[Chocolate Lover]

People named Nimrod are still funnier.

[ken a.k.a OMK]

I agree. Just being myself geek here. 

[Chocolate Lover]

You know what was even better? The Nimrod I met was a teacher. It was so hard to keep a straight face. 

[Green Eyed Lady]

No way. "Excuse me, Mr. Nimrod? May I have a moment of your.........HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!"

It would happen. It would not be a proud moment, but it would happen.

[Chocolate Lover]

I'm proud to report I never cracked. I didn't interact much with her either though.

[naughtybear]

There is a HS in the UP MI called the Nimrods, cracks me up everytime I go past. They have been on Letterman.

[Virgil Showlion]

"Nimrod" is the name of a great hunter in the Bible, hence it's been around for a few thousand years at least. I'm not sure how it came to mean the same thing as "dimwit".

ETA: According to Wiki, it's because Bugs Bunny used to call Elmer Fudd "nimrod", referring to his status as a hunter, but people assumed it meant he was an idiot.

And they say cartoons don't warp our brains.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Feb 10, 2017 15:27:11 GMT -5 grumpyhermit said:

They were there to file a complaint because they were "illegally detained" when someone reported suspicious activity, and they were pulled over by police.

Maybe don't run around strapped for battle unless you want to get pulled over and questioned. Just because you legally can, doesn't mean that you won't draw attention and raise concerns about your behavior.

They should just consider themselves lucky that they weren't carrying a BB-gun while black, or they could be dead right now.

We had this discussion once on P&M.   They were exercising their "God given" rights and nobody had any business calling the police on them.    You should be arrested for trying to infringe on their rights by reporting them.

Now if they had been dressed like that and speaking Arabic.. . .

[swamp]

Feb 10, 2017 19:04:14 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

"Nimrod" is the name of a great hunter in the Bible, hence it's been around for a few thousand years at least. I'm not sure how it came to mean the same thing as "dimwit".

ETA: According to Wiki, it's because Bugs Bunny used to call Elmer Fudd "nimrod", referring to his status as a hunter, but people assumed it meant he was an idiot.

And they say cartoons don't warp our brains.

No, it was the Acme anvil that fell on my head. 

[zibazinski]

WTF were they doing in Dearborn?

[zibazinski]

I thought Nimrod was the king from the Tower of Babel.

[mroped]

Yes, king from the Tower of Babel. A bit clumsy and somewhat unlucky maybe but not a dimwit. On the contrary a sharp mind!