MLK's son met with President elect Trump

[Value Buy]

today on MLK Day.

Does anyone think this is good omen for Trump and the black community?
Or does it make MLK III an Uncle Tom based on black members of Congress?

I am hoping for the former.

[Tennesseer]

I imagine most black citizens of the U.S. are indifferent regarding Trump meeting MLK III today.  

A better way for Trump to broach the wide distance between himself and black citizens would have been to visit the national African American history museum in Washington.  That Trump started tweeting about Rep John Lewis did not help him.

Does not bode well for relations between Trump and African Americans.

[Value Buy]

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-meets-with-martin-luther-king-iii-to-discuss-voting-rights/ar-AAlUIjY

[Gardening Grandma]

Jan 16, 2017 20:56:02 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

I imagine most black citizens of the U.S. are indifferent regarding Trump meeting MLK III today.  

A better way for Trump to broach the wide distance between himself and black citizens would have been to visit the national African American history museum in Washington.  That Trump started tweeting about Rep John Lewis did not help him.

Does not bode well for relations between Trump and African Americans.

Trump COULD. have refrained from atracking Rep John Lewis.  Apparently he could not.........

[Tennesseer]

Zero self control.   I hope Trump gets over that problem soon. 

[tallguy]

Jan 16, 2017 20:59:51 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-meets-with-martin-luther-king-iii-to-discuss-voting-rights/ar-AAlUIjY

From the story:

Many African American leaders see the distribution of a free government ID as a critical boost to low-income Americans who cannot open a bank account without one. The lack of an ID not only makes it more difficult to vote in several states, but it also often makes individuals dependent on check-cashing operations that charge high commissions.

In a letter to Trump, former U.N. ambassador and civil rights activist Andrew Young, who was invited to attend but had a scheduling conflict in Nashville, wrote that when he and others have pressed for the change, “I always ask who could possibly be opposed to such a common sense solution and receive only one answer: check cashers. A photo ID card is truly a freedom card.”

According to one of the meeting’s participants, who asked for anonymity to discuss a private conversation, Trump expressed a serious interest in making photos available on Social Security cards and said he would study the issue in further detail.

Ummm, gee, ummm, Mr. Trump sir?  Wouldn't putting photo ID with name and address on a Social Security card be, I don't know, kind of an invitation to ID theft?  Isn't it kind of the idea to keep one's Social Security number private rather than have it broadcast in every transaction requiring ID?     

[zibazinski]

It's still on the damn Medicare cards.

[Value Buy]

Jan 16, 2017 21:03:41 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Jan 16, 2017 20:56:02 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

I imagine most black citizens of the U.S. are indifferent regarding Trump meeting MLK III today.  

A better way for Trump to broach the wide distance between himself and black citizens would have been to visit the national African American history museum in Washington.  That Trump started tweeting about Rep John Lewis did not help him.

Does not bode well for relations between Trump and African Americans.

Trump COULD. have refrained from atracking Rep John Lewis.  Apparently he could not.........

Shit, I would have been harder on Lewis.
Wis Trump would of been harder too.
The man is past his prime living on his record from decades ago.

[Tennesseer]

Jan 16, 2017 22:54:19 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Jan 16, 2017 21:03:41 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Trump COULD. have refrained from atracking Rep John Lewis.  Apparently he could not.........

Shit, I would have been harder on Lewis.
Wis Trump would of been harder too.
The man is past his prime living on his record from decades ago.

He's not that much older than you or me. As for being past his prime living on his record, there is no expiration date in the fight to gain civil rights for others. The fight in fact is still going on.

[Gardening Grandma]

Jan 16, 2017 23:28:01 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Jan 16, 2017 22:54:19 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Shit, I would have been harder on Lewis.
Wis Trump would of been harder too.
The man is past his prime living on his record from decades ago.

He's not that much older than you or me. As for being past his prime living on his record, there is no expiration date in the fight to gain civil rights for others. The fight in fact is still going on.

Let's see......
Rep John Lewis was tear gassed and beaten to a near concussion while demonstrating for the right to vote
PE Trump  received 5 draft deferments  ....

Which one is "past his prime, luving on his record from decades ago"
Please tell me, Is there an expiration date for defending voting rights?

[OldCoyote]

Jan 16, 2017 21:03:41 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Jan 16, 2017 20:56:02 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

I imagine most black citizens of the U.S. are indifferent regarding Trump meeting MLK III today.  

A better way for Trump to broach the wide distance between himself and black citizens would have been to visit the national African American history museum in Washington.  That Trump started tweeting about Rep John Lewis did not help him.

Does not bode well for relations between Trump and African Americans.

Trump COULD. have refrained from atracking Rep John Lewis.  Apparently he could not.........

Tell me,  who started this fight??

It was not Trump!!!!!!!!!!!

[OldCoyote]

Jan 16, 2017 22:18:33 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Jan 16, 2017 20:59:51 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-meets-with-martin-luther-king-iii-to-discuss-voting-rights/ar-AAlUIjY

From the story:

Many African American leaders see the distribution of a free government ID as a critical boost to low-income Americans who cannot open a bank account without one. The lack of an ID not only makes it more difficult to vote in several states, but it also often makes individuals dependent on check-cashing operations that charge high commissions.

In a letter to Trump, former U.N. ambassador and civil rights activist Andrew Young, who was invited to attend but had a scheduling conflict in Nashville, wrote that when he and others have pressed for the change, “I always ask who could possibly be opposed to such a common sense solution and receive only one answer: check cashers. A photo ID card is truly a freedom card.”

According to one of the meeting’s participants, who asked for anonymity to discuss a private conversation, Trump expressed a serious interest in making photos available on Social Security cards and said he would study the issue in further detail.

Ummm, gee, ummm, Mr. Trump sir?  Wouldn't putting photo ID with name and address on a Social Security card be, I don't know, kind of an invitation to ID theft?  Isn't it kind of the idea to keep one's Social Security number private rather than have it broadcast in every transaction requiring ID?     

You have to be kidding, Protecting yourself from ID theft,

How many places have your SS #

Your security is only as good as the one that have it.

From your birth on!!!!!

[OldCoyote]

Jan 16, 2017 23:47:49 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Jan 16, 2017 23:28:01 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

He's not that much older than you or me. As for being past his prime living on his record, there is no expiration date in the fight to gain civil rights for others. The fight in fact is still going on.

Let's see......
Rep John Lewis was tear gassed and beaten to a near concussion while demonstrating for the right to vote
PE Trump  received 5 draft deferments  ....

Which one is "past his prime, luving on his record from decades ago"
Please tell me, Is there an expiration date for defending voting rights?

Did John Lewis serve in the military, ,,, or did he have some type of deferment?

[Value Buy]

Jan 16, 2017 23:28:01 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Jan 16, 2017 22:54:19 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Shit, I would have been harder on Lewis.
Wis Trump would of been harder too.
The man is past his prime living on his record from decades ago.

He's not that much older than you or me. As for being past his prime living on his record, there is no expiration date in the fight to gain civil rights for others. The fight in fact is still going on.

I guess I compare him to Jesse Jackson in Chicago.
He was with MLK back in the day, but basically is a washed up has been, who cashed in on the civil rights movement, over the years.
For Lewis to claim Trump is not the official winner is ludicrous, and the swearing in ceremony is not the proper place to "protest it.
He is making it about himself rather than Trump.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Jan 17, 2017 7:52:54 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Jan 16, 2017 21:03:41 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Trump COULD. have refrained from atracking Rep John Lewis.  Apparently he could not.........

Tell me,  who started this fight??

It was not Trump!!!!!!!!!!!

Trump is going to be our president in 3 days.   If he's going to go on the attack against everyone who doesn't like him or says something negative I think he's going to be far too busy to "make America great again".

Imagine if Bush or Obama had spent as much time chasing and yelling at their detractors as Trump does.   Would you have been supporting either one of them saying "Well the other guy started it?"

Or would you want to know why your tax money is going to pay for twitter wars?

[OldCoyote]

If everyone just ignored twitter , nothing would happen, it is such a small media outlet,

Let's put the shoe on the other foot, If they didn't attack in the first place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Jan 17, 2017 10:11:54 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

If everyone just ignored twitter , nothing would happen, it is such a small media outlet,

Let's put the shoe on the other foot, If they didn't attack in the first place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We'll have to agree to disagree.   When my children attack me I do not go after them because they 'attacked first".  I am the adult in the situation and it's up to me to model better behavior and conduct myself as an adult.  I set the standard for the conversation.

As the president elect and soon to be president it's up to Trump to model proper behavior for a president and stop taking everything everyone says so personally and spending his time trolling Twitter.

I said it before and I'll say it again if Trump expected being President to be like being voted "Most Popular" in high school he's in for a VERY rude awakening.

[OldCoyote]

When my children attack me- John Lewis and others There you have it!

[Tennesseer]

Jan 17, 2017 8:49:27 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Jan 16, 2017 23:28:01 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

He's not that much older than you or me. As for being past his prime living on his record, there is no expiration date in the fight to gain civil rights for others. The fight in fact is still going on.

I guess I compare him to Jesse Jackson in Chicago.
He was with MLK back in the day, but basically is a washed up has been, who cashed in on the civil rights movement, over the years.
For Lewis to claim Trump is not the official winner is ludicrous, and the swearing in ceremony is not the proper place to "protest it.
He is making it about himself rather than Trump.

So if anyone states Trump is wrong about something, the statement is about themselves and not Trump. Do I have your reasoning correct?

[swamp]

Jan 17, 2017 10:11:54 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

If everyone just ignored twitter , nothing would happen, it is such a small media outlet,

Let's put the shoe on the other foot, If they didn't attack in the first place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So Trump puts stupid comments out in public, and we should ignore them?

WTH is wrong with you? He's going to be President, of course his statements, especially when they are stupid, should be news.

[Tennesseer]

Jan 17, 2017 8:49:27 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Jan 16, 2017 23:28:01 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

He's not that much older than you or me. As for being past his prime living on his record, there is no expiration date in the fight to gain civil rights for others. The fight in fact is still going on.

I guess I compare him to Jesse Jackson in Chicago.
He was with MLK back in the day, but basically is a washed up has been, who cashed in on the civil rights movement, over the years.
For Lewis to claim Trump is not the official winner is ludicrous, and the swearing in ceremony is not the proper place to "protest it.
He is making it about himself rather than Trump.

OpEd article:

With All Due Disrespect
By Paul Krugman

As a young man, Congressman John Lewis, who represents most of Atlanta, literally put his life on the line in pursuit of justice. As a key civil rights leader, he endured multiple beatings. Most famously, he led the demonstration that came to be known as Bloody Sunday, suffering a fractured skull at the hands of state troopers. Public outrage over that day’s violence helped lead to the enactment of the Voting Rights Act.

Now Mr. Lewis says that he won’t attend the inauguration of Donald Trump, whom he regards as an illegitimate president.

As you might expect, this statement provoked a hysterical, slanderous reaction from the president-elect – who, of course, got his start in national politics by repeatedly, falsely questioning President Obama’s right to hold office. But Mr. Trump — who has never sacrificed anything or taken a risk to help others — seems to have a special animus toward genuine heroes. Maybe he prefers demonstrators who don’t get beaten?

But let’s not talk about Mr. Trump’s ravings. Instead, let’s ask whether Mr. Lewis was right to say what he said. Is it O.K., morally and politically, to declare the man about to move into the White House illegitimate?


Yes, it is. In fact, it’s an act of patriotism.

Complete article here: With All Due Disrespect

[Gardening Grandma]

Jan 17, 2017 15:05:14 GMT -5 alwaysbeoptimizing said:

Jan 16, 2017 21:03:41 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Trump COULD. have refrained from atracking Rep John Lewis.  Apparently he could not.........

you mean you could have rolled over and just accepted any criticism on the legitimacy of his election.  totally.  seems reasonable

Obama had  8 years of attacks on his legitimacy.  He handled it with dignity, grace and by focusing on the job at hand.  Trump COULD follow Obama's example instead of behaving like a petulant adolescent who thinks he was dissed.

[Gardening Grandma]

Jan 18, 2017 11:01:48 GMT -5 alwaysbeoptimizing said:

Jan 17, 2017 16:51:15 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Obama had  8 years of attacks on his legitimacy.  He handled it with dignity, grace and by focusing on the job at hand.  Trump COULD follow Obama's example instead of behaving like a petulant adolescent who thinks he was dissed.

First the serious response, Obama had the whole media complex defending him against these attacks so he could take the higher ground and say nothing. Trump doesn't get this protection, so h,as to fight for himself.

That statement has to be one of the biggest crocks of BS I've seen.   Faux "news" soewed lies constantly.....And did you not see and hear a Republican House member yell "Liar" during the SOTU speech? Where was the media "defending" him?
Now, if reporting facts (or pointing out obvious discrepancies) is equal to "defending" Obama, maybe, just maybe, one just might have a problem with facts that don't fit their narrative.

[Blonde Granny]

Jan 16, 2017 22:38:40 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

It's still on the damn Medicare cards.

The VA does NOT use SS numbers anymore, they have changed it to the last "4".  Seems like every other place needs to use the entire number, most times now I only give last "4".

[Deleted]

Jan 16, 2017 21:03:41 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Jan 16, 2017 20:56:02 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

I imagine most black citizens of the U.S. are indifferent regarding Trump meeting MLK III today.  

A better way for Trump to broach the wide distance between himself and black citizens would have been to visit the national African American history museum in Washington.  That Trump started tweeting about Rep John Lewis did not help him.

Does not bode well for relations between Trump and African Americans.

Trump COULD. have refrained from atracking Rep John Lewis.  Apparently he could not.........

Wasn't he "responding" to an attack by the same?  I give him the  for his response.  I wouldn't take Lewis' crap either.  Don't expect the politically correct, namby/pamby garbage, from this potus.

[Green Eyed Lady]

Rep. Lewis COULD have refrained from attacking Trump, too. But he didn't.  They both COULD grow the eff up and try together to make a better America, but that isn't going to happen either.  Coulda, shoulda, woulda....meh.

[Gardening Grandma]

Jan 19, 2017 13:14:10 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Jan 16, 2017 21:03:41 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Trump COULD. have refrained from atracking Rep John Lewis.  Apparently he could not.........

Wasn't he "responding" to an attack by the same?  I give him the  for his response.  I wouldn't take Lewis' crap either.  Don't expect the politically correct, namby/pamby garbage, from this potus.

Rep Lewis did not "attack" Herr President Trump. He (calmly and thoughtfully) stated an opinion.   I just happen to agree that the election was, in fact, tainted.

Trump is the churlish petulant adolescent here.

[Deleted]

Jan 18, 2017 11:01:48 GMT -5 alwaysbeoptimizing said:

Jan 17, 2017 16:51:15 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Obama had  8 years of attacks on his legitimacy.  He handled it with dignity, grace and by focusing on the job at hand.  Trump COULD follow Obama's example instead of behaving like a petulant adolescent who thinks he was dissed.

First the serious response, Obama had the whole media complex defending him against these attacks so he could take the higher ground and say nothing. Trump doesn't get this protection, so has to fight for himself.

ON a non-serious note, this is the quote that goes into my brain whenever someone "handles" abuse

One of the reasons the major media is in such a dither about his tweeting.   He can just bypass their "editorial service" and put his response straight out there.  Although ABC gets a C+ for trying to let you read only part of his posts.   I hope he continues!

[Deleted]

Jan 19, 2017 13:22:04 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Jan 19, 2017 13:14:10 GMT -5 @jma23 said:

Wasn't he "responding" to an attack by the same?  I give him the  for his response.  I wouldn't take Lewis' crap either.  Don't expect the politically correct, namby/pamby garbage, from this potus.

Rep Lewis did not "attack" Herr President Trump. He (calmly and thoughtfully) stated an opinion.   I just happen to agree that the election was, in fact, tainted.

Trump is the churlish petulant adolescent here.

No issues here! 

[Green Eyed Lady]

lol