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Post by midjd on Dec 7, 2016 16:21:14 GMT -5
I agree. I don't know many (any?) people who will become offended at a "Merry Christmas," but I do hear a lot of complaining about "all the crybaby atheists" who have forced the rest of the world to stop saying it.
I am sure the crybaby atheists exist, but I suspect in about the same number as the people who go nuclear over NOT being told "Merry Christmas" (which is, fortunately, not many people).
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Post by spartyparty on Dec 7, 2016 16:25:21 GMT -5
Keep Christ in Christmas blah blah blah.....I felt the need to say that, so that I can continue to get my two days of holiday pay!
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Dec 7, 2016 16:27:19 GMT -5
I agree. I don't know many (any?) people who will become offended at a "Merry Christmas," but I do hear a lot of complaining about "all the crybaby atheists" who have forced the rest of the world to stop saying it. I am sure the crybaby atheists exist, but I suspect in about the same number as the people who go nuclear over NOT being told "Merry Christmas" (which is, fortunately, not many people). Agree with that. Now...I wouldn't knowingly wish someone a "Merry Christmas" if I knew there were going to be highly offended by it. I'd just keep my mouth shut. However, I've never once run into one single person who was offended at being wished a Merry Christmas. In turn, I'm not the least bit offended by someone saying "Happy Holidays". As long as people are wishing one another well and, as Swamp said, not telling each other to eff off, I just can't see that it matters.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Dec 7, 2016 16:27:40 GMT -5
Keep Christ in Christmas blah blah blah.....I felt the need to say that, so that I can continue to get my two days of holiday pay! That keeps popping up on my Facebook feed. I get the sentiment but enough already. Post it once and be done with it. Don't post it, then share your friend's meme, then that friend's friend's meme. . . Maybe I should turn it into a drinking game.
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Post by swamp on Dec 7, 2016 16:30:42 GMT -5
I agree. I don't know many (any?) people who will become offended at a "Merry Christmas," but I do hear a lot of complaining about "all the crybaby atheists" who have forced the rest of the world to stop saying it. I am sure the crybaby atheists exist, but I suspect in about the same number as the people who go nuclear over NOT being told "Merry Christmas" (which is, fortunately, not many people). Agree with that. Now...I wouldn't knowingly wish someone a "Merry Christmas" if I knew there were going to be highly offended by it. I'd just keep my mouth shut. However, I've never once run into one single person who was offended at being wished a Merry Christmas. In turn, I'm not the least bit offended by someone saying "Happy Holidays". As long as people are wishing one another well and, as Swamp said, not telling each other to eff off, I just can't see that it matters. I had someone unlike my business page last year because I posted "Wishing you and your family a happy and safe holiday season." It was offensive to Christians. Um, okay.
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on Dec 7, 2016 16:35:51 GMT -5
Agree with that. Now...I wouldn't knowingly wish someone a "Merry Christmas" if I knew there were going to be highly offended by it. I'd just keep my mouth shut. However, I've never once run into one single person who was offended at being wished a Merry Christmas. In turn, I'm not the least bit offended by someone saying "Happy Holidays". As long as people are wishing one another well and, as Swamp said, not telling each other to eff off, I just can't see that it matters. I had someone unlike my business page last year because I posted "Wishing you and your family a happy and safe holiday season." It was offensive to Christians. Um, okay. It's not offensive to this Christian. My reply would be, "Thanks!". I want to say that people are too dang touchy, but I can be one of them on occasion, so I won't.
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Post by midjd on Dec 7, 2016 16:36:25 GMT -5
Agree with that. Now...I wouldn't knowingly wish someone a "Merry Christmas" if I knew there were going to be highly offended by it. I'd just keep my mouth shut. However, I've never once run into one single person who was offended at being wished a Merry Christmas. In turn, I'm not the least bit offended by someone saying "Happy Holidays". As long as people are wishing one another well and, as Swamp said, not telling each other to eff off, I just can't see that it matters. I had someone unlike my business page last year because I posted "Wishing you and your family a happy and safe holiday season." It was offensive to Christians. Um, okay. Well that's just dumb. Christmas is a holiday, right? How is it not part of the holiday season?
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Post by imawino on Dec 7, 2016 16:39:42 GMT -5
I agree. I don't know many (any?) people who will become offended at a "Merry Christmas," but I do hear a lot of complaining about "all the crybaby atheists" who have forced the rest of the world to stop saying it. I am sure the crybaby atheists exist, but I suspect in about the same number as the people who go nuclear over NOT being told "Merry Christmas" (which is, fortunately, not many people). There have been several times over the years that I have wished someone happy holidays only to have them snarl back at me "merry christmas" in a tone that was miles short of merry! Or inform me that I meant to say merry Christmas. okey-dokey. Glad to see the spirit of the festive holiday season has worked its magic!
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Post by imawino on Dec 7, 2016 16:41:28 GMT -5
Agree with that. Now...I wouldn't knowingly wish someone a "Merry Christmas" if I knew there were going to be highly offended by it. I'd just keep my mouth shut. However, I've never once run into one single person who was offended at being wished a Merry Christmas. In turn, I'm not the least bit offended by someone saying "Happy Holidays". As long as people are wishing one another well and, as Swamp said, not telling each other to eff off, I just can't see that it matters. I had someone unlike my business page last year because I posted "Wishing you and your family a happy and safe holiday season." It was offensive to Christians. Um, okay. LOL. Did you say "oh, I'm so sorry. You're right, I phrased that wrong. What I meant to say was fuck you"?
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Dec 7, 2016 16:44:44 GMT -5
I had someone unlike my business page last year because I posted "Wishing you and your family a happy and safe holiday season." It was offensive to Christians. Um, okay. LOL. Did you say "oh, I'm so sorry. You're right, I phrased that wrong. What I meant to say was fuck you"? Is that what you said to the idiot who said you meant to say Merry Christmas?
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Post by imawino on Dec 7, 2016 16:50:12 GMT -5
LOL. Did you say "oh, I'm so sorry. You're right, I phrased that wrong. What I meant to say was fuck you"? Is that what you said to the idiot who said you meant to say Merry Christmas? It will be next time.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Dec 7, 2016 16:55:24 GMT -5
Is that what you said to the idiot who said you meant to say Merry Christmas? It will be next time. My first thought when I read it was to respond: "I take it back, go f*ck yourself" maybe I'd add "and happy holidays" to the end of it.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 7, 2016 16:56:45 GMT -5
My city has an annual summer solstice parade/festival, and I live in the Bible Belt... I will admit I don't know many people who celebrate the winter solstice (why would they? It's cold here! ) but the others are pretty popular. I would celebrate the winter solstice, only because that means the days are getting longer again! Strange thing about sunrise and sunset times right now. The sun is rising a minute later each morning but the sunset is also setting a minute later every two or three days. So we are getting 'more' daylight at the end of the day and the winter solstice is several weeks away.
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Post by megaptera on Dec 7, 2016 17:26:29 GMT -5
Maybe we should put all the Doctor Who and Dalaks stuff on the tree this year... If you have a "Doctor Who" tree for Christmas, please post a picture here. My DD would LOVE that. (Not my tree, but I wish it was. ) /delurking
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Post by NoNamePerson on Dec 7, 2016 18:09:20 GMT -5
I confuse every one and say Happy Easter during the holidays . I think a law should be passed that everyone has to wear a sign around their neck the day after Thanksgiving saying what they will accept as a greeting from strangers. And the sign cannot be worn before Thanksgiving upon threat of being flogged in town square at high noon.
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Post by suesinfl on Dec 7, 2016 19:12:09 GMT -5
Is it still a 'Christmas Tree' if I decorate mine with non-Religious symbol ornaments and don't put a crèche under it nor a star or angel on top of it? I don't have a crèche...
I have a collection of weird ornaments - which aren't really 'Christmas-y' -- my friends helped me decorate my tree one year and after they marveled at the ornaments I have amassed and got them all on the tree - they were like - these aren't "Christmas-y' at all!!
Do I still have a Christmas Tree?
I don't have any religious ornaments on my tree. I give each kid an ornament in their stocking every year with the thought that they will take the ornaments with them when they launch. None are religious and I also have the ornaments that they made in elementary school. We still call it a Christmas tree. Well, until it is decorated it's called the Charlie Brown tree. It's a long story.
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 7, 2016 19:32:33 GMT -5
Anyone here celebrate summer solstice? Anyone, anyone? No? Face it, the only reason we do these weird things at Christmas is because the Christians took it over and kept the traditions. For the record, saying Happy Holidays to someone is perfectly acceptable in my book, but I don't think it's fair or appropriate to dilute everything that is associated with Christianity to "Holiday". And, for the record, my priest told my class (way back when) that Jesus was actually born in the early spring. Never heard September. They keep changing that up, and I'm going to think that they just don't really have a clue. Glad we celebrate around winter solstice because it gets awfully dark here in the northern hemisphere this time of year. The Christmas lights help a lot with the gloominess. Or should I say, holiday lights? Geez I heard it was August.
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Post by tskeeter on Dec 7, 2016 19:47:09 GMT -5
Is it still a 'Christmas Tree' if I decorate mine with non-Religious symbol ornaments and don't put a crèche under it nor a star or angel on top of it? I don't have a crèche...
I have a collection of weird ornaments - which aren't really 'Christmas-y' -- my friends helped me decorate my tree one year and after they marveled at the ornaments I have amassed and got them all on the tree - they were like - these aren't "Christmas-y' at all!!
Do I still have a Christmas Tree?
Tiny, do you have a tree decorated with imported blown glass pickles? Or other vegetables?
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Dec 7, 2016 19:48:39 GMT -5
I went to DS's school for the Christmas concert.
They called it a "Holiday Concert" and sang a Hanukkah song.
Should I write to the school board? Ummm....there are Hanukkah songs?? and I don't know why you would just write to the school board. It's not like you to shoot so low. Aim higher - I suggest trying to get your case to the Supreme Court!
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Post by tskeeter on Dec 7, 2016 19:51:09 GMT -5
Agree with that. Now...I wouldn't knowingly wish someone a "Merry Christmas" if I knew there were going to be highly offended by it. I'd just keep my mouth shut. However, I've never once run into one single person who was offended at being wished a Merry Christmas. In turn, I'm not the least bit offended by someone saying "Happy Holidays". As long as people are wishing one another well and, as Swamp said, not telling each other to eff off, I just can't see that it matters. I had someone unlike my business page last year because I posted "Wishing you and your family a happy and safe holiday season." It was offensive to Christians. Um, okay. I think the appropriate response would be "Well, bless your heart. Thank you for your input." Then you can tell the next person you meet the joke about the woman whose husband sent her to charm school.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Dec 7, 2016 19:55:53 GMT -5
A few years ago my city started saying Holiday tree as opposed to Christmas tree. I was sitting in Jiffy Lube waiting to have my oil changed and a TV was playing. A local news station announced the Holiday Tree would be lit on X date and the woman sitting next to me started yelling at the TV "It is a Christmas tree. It has always been a Christmas tree and it always will be a Christmas tree." Uh, okay...I was completely shocked because I could not care less what they call it. I am okay with Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Have A Good Kwanzaa, whatever people want to say in good tidings. People are so freaking uptight. I'm with you on this... but I kind of see the point of the lady with the tree. It is a Christmas tree.. It's like me telling someone "Hey great holiday candlestick thingy you got there!" while admiring their Menorah If someone wants to wish me happy random religious observance even if it's not mine, go for it. OK, so here is a little fun fact / story for you all. Where I am from all religions were forbidden. to the point that you could end up in jail for practicing any religion. But every year we had a tree. It was for New Year's, the most favorite holiday bc that was the only holiday that wasn't tied to any political agenda of our govt. And we had presents under the tree. And there were parties around that time of year with a guy who is a look alike of Santa, but of course, he was called something else. I LOOOVED all that. We always got a real tree, a huge one, we had gorgeous decorations. It was awesome. Fast forward to us coming to US and my parents wouldn't let me get one bc we are not Christians and here is a "Christmas" tree. I've been upset about it for over 2 decades now. Oh and my husband feels the same way. So, I just go and sniff other people's trees now.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 7, 2016 20:02:54 GMT -5
I went to DS's school for the Christmas concert.
They called it a "Holiday Concert" and sang a Hanukkah song.
Should I write to the school board? Ummm....there are Hanukkah songs?? and I don't know why you would just write to the school board. It's not like you to shoot so low. Aim higher - I suggest trying to get your case to the Supreme Court!
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 7, 2016 21:25:59 GMT -5
I had someone unlike my business page last year because I posted "Wishing you and your family a happy and safe holiday season." It was offensive to Christians. Um, okay. I think the appropriate response would be "Well, bless your heart. Thank you for your input." Then you can tell the next person you meet the joke about the woman whose husband sent her to charm school. Good one!!
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Post by zibazinski on Dec 7, 2016 21:27:14 GMT -5
Who does the Yule logs?
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Dec 7, 2016 23:45:21 GMT -5
The edible kind? Yum!! Drool!!!
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Post by tallguy on Dec 7, 2016 23:48:35 GMT -5
Seattle's Fremont neighborhood has had an annual solstice parade for almost thirty years. It is an artsy-type neighborhood and the parade allows pretty much anyone to participate in it. (You seemingly get bonus points for being quirky or weird.) For many years the parade has been "started" by hundreds of nude cyclists in body-paint or costume who ride back and forth along the parade route for an hour or so. There are also several music stages, food and crafts booths, "art cars" and performing artists. Does that qualify as a celebration? Fremont also bills itself as, "The Center of the Universe" and there is a guidepost in the street which shows how many miles and in which direction other destinations are. Those are destinations such as the Louvre, Machu Picchu, and The Milky Way. Also home to a seven-ton statue of Lenin, a rocket, and a massive troll (who lives under the bridge, of course.)
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Post by dee27 on Dec 7, 2016 23:58:44 GMT -5
GRG, the Buche Noel kind?
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Dec 8, 2016 0:04:36 GMT -5
Seattle's Fremont neighborhood has had an annual solstice parade for almost thirty years. It is an artsy-type neighborhood and the parade allows pretty much anyone to participate in it. (You seemingly get bonus points for being quirky or weird.) For many years the parade has been "started" by hundreds of nude cyclists who ride back and forth along the parade route for an hour or so. There are also several music stages, food and crafts booths, "art cars" and performing artists. Does that qualify as a celebration? Fremont also bills itself as, "The Center of the Universe" and there is a guidepost in the street which shows how many miles and in which direction other destinations are. Those are destinations such as the Louvre, Machu Picchu, and The Milky Way. Also home to a seven-ton statue of Lenin, a rocket, and a massive troll (who lives under the bridge, of course. Fremont is a very cool area of Seattle. At least once a year I drive DH over so he and a friend can attend a brewfest while the friend's wife & I hit tne antique shops. We'd go more iften if it weren't so far.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Dec 8, 2016 0:22:47 GMT -5
GRG, the Buche Noel kind? Yes. Yule Log is the atheist/pagan version of the Christian Buche de Noel -- the cake that celebrates the birth of our Lord, Savior, Jesus Christ. Either version is yummy and drool-worthy, so no one is persecuted -- it's just cake. Cake does not discriminate. Cake is inclusive, not exclusive. Just don't call it "Christmas cake" in English. People get mad if you label things as being for Christmas. The French "Noel" accomplishes the same purpose but without the protests and the riots "Christmas" generates because anything said in French is sexy. ;-)
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Post by dee27 on Dec 8, 2016 1:34:55 GMT -5
All of the talk about cake is making me hungry!
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