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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Nov 30, 2016 8:32:49 GMT -5
The left, and in particular the disloyal Castro-humping, police-hating Democrats need to step up and speak out to halt the narrative that there is a violent hate-crime wave sweeping the country in "Trump's America". Thus far, the only REAL hate crimes documented have been against Trump supporters, some of them funded and orchestrated directly by the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton's campaign. reason.com/blog/2016/11/11/election-night-hijab-attack-falseA partial list of the hate-crime hoaxes which doesn't feature today's revelation that a bi-sexual student fabricated stories of homophobic, pro-Trump harassment, can be found here: reason.com/blog/2016/11/18/election-hate-crimes-hoaxes-hyperboleThis situation calls for leadership. It calls for the Democrats to immediately stop funding, instigating, and propagating a dangerous false narrative for their own political gain- which they are doing. It's time for this party to quit playing the divisive game of identity politics, and come up with a coherent policy argument and begin to rebuild a legitimate political opposition party. Failure to do so will result in the Democratic party remaining an irrelevant, fringe, regional party-- which is what they have been, what they are, and frankly- fine with me if they remain. But for you Dems who care- you'd better stop. And your party better start leading-- beginning with the TRUTH. For once.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Nov 30, 2016 9:22:15 GMT -5
The left, and in particular the disloyal Castro-humping, police-hating Democrats need to step up and speak out to halt the narrative that there is a violent hate-crime wave sweeping the country in "Trump's America". Thus far, the only REAL hate crimes documented have been against Trump supporters, some of them funded and orchestrated directly by the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton's campaign. reason.com/blog/2016/11/11/election-night-hijab-attack-falseA partial list of the hate-crime hoaxes which doesn't feature today's revelation that a bi-sexual student fabricated stories of homophobic, pro-Trump harassment, can be found here: reason.com/blog/2016/11/18/election-hate-crimes-hoaxes-hyperboleThis situation calls for leadership. It calls for the Democrats to immediately stop funding, instigating, and propagating a dangerous false narrative for their own political gain- which they are doing. It's time for this party to quit playing the divisive game of identity politics, and come up with a coherent policy argument and begin to rebuild a legitimate political opposition party. Failure to do so will result in the Democratic party remaining an irrelevant, fringe, regional party-- which is what they have been, what they are, and frankly- fine with me if they remain. But for you Dems who care- you'd better stop. And your party better start leading-- beginning with the TRUTH. For once. Well thats your feeling on what should be done...How about the idea of our President elect having a special meeting with media..print and electronic..and announce his feeling that under no situation is he looking or needing support of those groups that preach racial hatred..same regarding folks who have it in for any minoritys..any anti semetics..any who promote negative feelings against different cultures in a group way... that he is the President of all Americans and for those committing hate related crimes, he will encourage authorities to prosecute and ask for steep punishments for those convicted...I know his writers could do a much better job then I...also his appointments of a few high placed people already whoes own history, statements, writings, have shown they are raciest and hate mongers doesn't help any in giving some minorities , some normal folks everday folks very nervouse..in the least..Surprised u didn't mention any of that Paul? " beginning with the TRUTH. For once."........[yea right...lol, lol, lol]
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Post by movingforward on Nov 30, 2016 12:16:15 GMT -5
In a way I do wish the media would calm down a bit, mainly because crazies only inspire more crazies. If Trump was any kind of President-Elect he would run to the media and tell people to stop acting like total morons.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2016 12:56:34 GMT -5
In a way I do wish the media would calm down a bit, mainly because crazies only inspire more crazies. If Trump was any kind of President-Elect he would run to the media and tell people to stop acting like total morons. How is our current administration that's in charge, doing on this subject.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Nov 30, 2016 12:57:38 GMT -5
The left, and in particular the disloyal Castro-humping, police-hating Democrats need to step up and speak out to halt the narrative that there is a violent hate-crime wave sweeping the country in "Trump's America". Thus far, the only REAL hate crimes documented have been against Trump supporters, some of them funded and orchestrated directly by the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton's campaign. reason.com/blog/2016/11/11/election-night-hijab-attack-falseA partial list of the hate-crime hoaxes which doesn't feature today's revelation that a bi-sexual student fabricated stories of homophobic, pro-Trump harassment, can be found here: reason.com/blog/2016/11/18/election-hate-crimes-hoaxes-hyperboleThis situation calls for leadership. It calls for the Democrats to immediately stop funding, instigating, and propagating a dangerous false narrative for their own political gain- which they are doing. It's time for this party to quit playing the divisive game of identity politics, and come up with a coherent policy argument and begin to rebuild a legitimate political opposition party. Failure to do so will result in the Democratic party remaining an irrelevant, fringe, regional party-- which is what they have been, what they are, and frankly- fine with me if they remain. But for you Dems who care- you'd better stop. And your party better start leading-- beginning with the TRUTH. For once. Well thats your feeling on what should be done...How about the idea of our President elect having a special meeting with media..print and electronic..and announce his feeling that under no situation is he looking or needing support of those groups that preach racial hatred..same regarding folks who have it in for any minoritys..any anti semetics..any who promote negative feelings against different cultures in a group way... that he is the President of all Americans and for those committing hate related crimes, he will encourage authorities to prosecute and ask for steep punishments for those convicted...I know his writers could do a much better job then I...also his appointments of a few high placed people already whoes own history, statements, writings, have shown they are raciest and hate mongers doesn't help any in giving some minorities , some normal folks everday folks very nervouse..in the least..Surprised u didn't mention any of that Paul? " beginning with the TRUTH. For once."........[yea right...lol, lol, lol]President elect Trump is under no special obligation due to prove a negative because of the lies and violent outbursts of leftists.
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Post by movingforward on Nov 30, 2016 12:58:19 GMT -5
In a way I do wish the media would calm down a bit, mainly because crazies only inspire more crazies. If Trump was any kind of President-Elect he would run to the media and tell people to stop acting like total morons. How is our current administration that's in charge, doing on this subject. To my knowledge, pretty well...but everyone has their own interpretation of things.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Nov 30, 2016 12:58:33 GMT -5
In a way I do wish the media would calm down a bit, mainly because crazies only inspire more crazies. If Trump was any kind of President-Elect he would run to the media and tell people to stop acting like total morons. How is our current administration that's in charge, doing on this subject. President Elect Trump has no control over what crazed Democrats do. This is a job for the Democratic leadership.
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Post by dezailoooooo on Nov 30, 2016 13:31:54 GMT -5
President elect Trump is under no special obligation due to prove a negative because of the lies and violent outbursts of leftists.[/quote] They are not lies Paul as u well know it..it is his own words and doings..whether his feelings caught on tape or in tweeks..at his mob gatherings of like minded followers egging them on..and then when called out publickly on his sayings and posts he denies he ever did or said those things..as we listen in his own voice and see him pictured on tape saying the words or read his texts at the same time as his denials..kind of what your doing now...There is one thing being loyal to whatever..then there is another thing, such as what u do..where just is no explanation for so while u blabber away most of us just take the blabber with a grain of salt and just and
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Post by mmhmm on Nov 30, 2016 13:38:10 GMT -5
Discuss the subject under discussion, dezailoooooo, not the posters, please. Thanks. mmhmm, Politics Moderator
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Post by NastyWoman on Nov 30, 2016 13:45:28 GMT -5
How is our current administration that's in charge, doing on this subject. President Elect Trump has no control over what crazed Democrats do. This is a job for the Democratic leadership. You mean to say that those crazed Trump voters in Tenneseers video's are demacrats
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Post by dezailoooooo on Nov 30, 2016 13:46:33 GMT -5
Discuss the subject under discussion, dezailoooooo , not the posters, please. Thanks. mmhmm, Politics Moderator
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Post by rob base on Nov 30, 2016 16:58:29 GMT -5
The left, and in particular the disloyal Castro-humping, police-hating Democrats need to step up and speak out to halt the narrative that there is a violent hate-crime wave sweeping the country in "Trump's America". Thus far, the only REAL hate crimes documented have been against Trump supporters, some of them funded and orchestrated directly by the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton's campaign. reason.com/blog/2016/11/11/election-night-hijab-attack-falseA partial list of the hate-crime hoaxes which doesn't feature today's revelation that a bi-sexual student fabricated stories of homophobic, pro-Trump harassment, can be found here: reason.com/blog/2016/11/18/election-hate-crimes-hoaxes-hyperboleThis situation calls for leadership. It calls for the Democrats to immediately stop funding, instigating, and propagating a dangerous false narrative for their own political gain- which they are doing. It's time for this party to quit playing the divisive game of identity politics, and come up with a coherent policy argument and begin to rebuild a legitimate political opposition party. Failure to do so will result in the Democratic party remaining an irrelevant, fringe, regional party-- which is what they have been, what they are, and frankly- fine with me if they remain. But for you Dems who care- you'd better stop. And your party better start leading-- beginning with the TRUTH. For once. Well thats your feeling on what should be done...How about the idea of our President elect having a special meeting with media..print and electronic..and announce his feeling that under no situation is he looking or needing support of those groups that preach racial hatred..same regarding folks who have it in for any minoritys..any anti semetics..any who promote negative feelings against different cultures in a group way... that he is the President of all Americans and for those committing hate related crimes, he will encourage authorities to prosecute and ask for steep punishments for those convicted...I know his writers could do a much better job then I...also his appointments of a few high placed people already whoes own history, statements, writings, have shown they are raciest and hate mongers doesn't help any in giving some minorities , some normal folks everday folks very nervouse..in the least..Surprised u didn't mention any of that Paul? " beginning with the TRUTH. For once."........[yea right...lol, lol, lol]
I thought I saw Trump on 60 minutes saying we need to come together and ANYONE spreading hate, etc should STOP......that wasn't enough?
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 30, 2016 17:36:20 GMT -5
Well thats your feeling on what should be done...How about the idea of our President elect having a special meeting with media..print and electronic..and announce his feeling that under no situation is he looking or needing support of those groups that preach racial hatred..same regarding folks who have it in for any minoritys..any anti semetics..any who promote negative feelings against different cultures in a group way... that he is the President of all Americans and for those committing hate related crimes, he will encourage authorities to prosecute and ask for steep punishments for those convicted...I know his writers could do a much better job then I...also his appointments of a few high placed people already whoes own history, statements, writings, have shown they are raciest and hate mongers doesn't help any in giving some minorities , some normal folks everday folks very nervouse..in the least..Surprised u didn't mention any of that Paul? " beginning with the TRUTH. For once."........[yea right...lol, lol, lol]
I thought I saw Trump on 60 minutes saying we need to come together and ANYONE spreading hate, etc should STOP......that wasn't enough?
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." "He's not a war hero," Trump said of Arizona Sen. John McCain, a Republican. "He is a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured." "You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her, wherever." "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population." "I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down. And I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering." "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot people and I wouldn't lose voters," "His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald's being, you know, shot," Trump said of his rival, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz. "Nobody even brings it up, I mean they don't even talk about that. That was reported and nobody talks about it." "I saw him. He was, you know, very emotional. And probably looked like -- a nice guy to me. His wife, if you look at his wife, she was standing there. She had nothing to say. She probably -- maybe she wasn't allowed to have anything to say." "By the way, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks," Trump said about the potential power rival Hillary Clinton could have to nominate Supreme Court justices. "Although the Second Amendment people -- maybe there is, I don't know," he told supporters. Donald Trump speech, debates and campaign quotesTrump has much to atone for. Start with an apology to the people of the United States. All of them. Maybe a few will forgive him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2016 17:40:11 GMT -5
Seriously peed myself a little.
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Post by rob base on Nov 30, 2016 17:58:29 GMT -5
I thought I saw Trump on 60 minutes saying we need to come together and ANYONE spreading hate, etc should STOP......that wasn't enough?
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." "He's not a war hero," Trump said of Arizona Sen. John McCain, a Republican. "He is a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured." "You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her, wherever." "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population." "I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down. And I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering." "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot people and I wouldn't lose voters," "His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald's being, you know, shot," Trump said of his rival, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz. "Nobody even brings it up, I mean they don't even talk about that. That was reported and nobody talks about it." "I saw him. He was, you know, very emotional. And probably looked like -- a nice guy to me. His wife, if you look at his wife, she was standing there. She had nothing to say. She probably -- maybe she wasn't allowed to have anything to say." "By the way, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks," Trump said about the potential power rival Hillary Clinton could have to nominate Supreme Court justices. "Although the Second Amendment people -- maybe there is, I don't know," he told supporters. Donald Trump speech, debates and campaign quotesTrump has much to atone for. Start with an apology to the people of the United States. All of them. Maybe a few will forgive him.
So typical, you to 100% buy all the ideological lines. No room for any doubt or interpretation errors. I agree with you on about 60 % of the points you listed though. Unfortunately, he was still a better candidate than Hillary though
However staying on the point I was addressing----Dezilooo asked Trump to basically denounce hate inspired supporters, I was pointing out that he already did this on 60 minutes.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 30, 2016 18:08:52 GMT -5
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." "He's not a war hero," Trump said of Arizona Sen. John McCain, a Republican. "He is a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured." "You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her, wherever." "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population." "I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down. And I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering." "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot people and I wouldn't lose voters," "His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald's being, you know, shot," Trump said of his rival, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz. "Nobody even brings it up, I mean they don't even talk about that. That was reported and nobody talks about it." "I saw him. He was, you know, very emotional. And probably looked like -- a nice guy to me. His wife, if you look at his wife, she was standing there. She had nothing to say. She probably -- maybe she wasn't allowed to have anything to say." "By the way, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks," Trump said about the potential power rival Hillary Clinton could have to nominate Supreme Court justices. "Although the Second Amendment people -- maybe there is, I don't know," he told supporters. Donald Trump speech, debates and campaign quotesTrump has much to atone for. Start with an apology to the people of the United States. All of them. Maybe a few will forgive him.
So typical, you to 100% buy all the ideological lines. No room for any doubt or interpretation errors. I agree with you on about 60 % of the points you listed though. Unfortunately, he was still a better candidate than Hillary though
However staying on the point I was addressing----Dezilooo asked Trump to basically denounce hate inspired supporters, I was pointing out that he already did this on 60 minutes.
I always liked Trump supporters sticking up for his wild-assed comments. Out of one side of their mouth they would claim "Trump means what he says." And out of the other side of their mouth, they would state "Trump doesn't mean what he says."
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Post by dondub on Nov 30, 2016 18:33:23 GMT -5
So typical, you to 100% buy all the ideological lines.
So now Trump didn't say all of this?
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Post by haapai on Nov 30, 2016 22:35:59 GMT -5
Screw asking your doc for pills or a script for Poise that will make it an allowable HSA expense! Just vid the intimidating encounter and encourage everyone around you to do the same so that when your battery turns ghostly, there's still audio from someone else that picks up when your battery dies. Histrionic folks are a long-winded and slippery bunch and it's best to preserve as much context as possible.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2016 22:39:10 GMT -5
In a way I do wish the media would calm down a bit, mainly because crazies only inspire more crazies. If Trump was any kind of President-Elect he would run to the media and tell people to stop acting like total morons. He actually did tell people to stop it, on his 60 Minutes interview.
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 30, 2016 22:39:45 GMT -5
Screw asking your doc for pills or a script for Poise that will make it an allowable HSA expense! Just vid the intimidating encounter and encourage everyone around you to do the same so that when your battery turns ghostly, there's still audio from someone else that picks up when your battery dies. Histrionic folks are a long-winded and slippery bunch and it's best to preserve as much context as possible.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 30, 2016 22:55:46 GMT -5
People have geen thrown off planes for doing math problems, quietly conversing in a foreign language and even wearing a head covering. But you think it's just fine for someone to get up (when people are supposed to be putting their stuff away and fastening their seatbelts) and create a disturbance gy yelling at people? The only reason he wasn' kicked off the plane was because he was white. I'm hardly intimidated by Trump supporters. Annoyed- sometimes. Amused- frequently. Idiots like this guy are just cowards.
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 30, 2016 23:36:09 GMT -5
In a way I do wish the media would calm down a bit, mainly because crazies only inspire more crazies. If Trump was any kind of President-Elect he would run to the media and tell people to stop acting like total morons. He actually did tell people to stop it, on his 60 Minutes interview. I guess that's how he'll deal with ISIS. "STOP IT!"
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Nov 30, 2016 23:38:39 GMT -5
He actually did tell people to stop it, on his 60 Minutes interview. I guess that's how he'll deal with ISIS. "STOP IT!" A 3:00 am tweet
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Post by dezailoooooo on Dec 1, 2016 0:16:07 GMT -5
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." "He's not a war hero," Trump said of Arizona Sen. John McCain, a Republican. "He is a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured." "You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her, wherever." "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population." "I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down. And I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering." "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot people and I wouldn't lose voters," "His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald's being, you know, shot," Trump said of his rival, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz. "Nobody even brings it up, I mean they don't even talk about that. That was reported and nobody talks about it." "I saw him. He was, you know, very emotional. And probably looked like -- a nice guy to me. His wife, if you look at his wife, she was standing there. She had nothing to say. She probably -- maybe she wasn't allowed to have anything to say." "By the way, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks," Trump said about the potential power rival Hillary Clinton could have to nominate Supreme Court justices. "Although the Second Amendment people -- maybe there is, I don't know," he told supporters. Donald Trump speech, debates and campaign quotesTrump has much to atone for. Start with an apology to the people of the United States. All of them. Maybe a few will forgive him.
So typical, you to 100% buy all the ideological lines. No room for any doubt or interpretation errors. I agree with you on about 60 % of the points you listed though. Unfortunately, he was still a better candidate than Hillary though
However staying on the point I was addressing----Dezilooo asked Trump to basically denounce hate inspired supporters, I was pointing out that he already did this on 60 minutes.
In this weeks "Time" there is a article by Karl Vick dealing with the fact that , I quote.. "The US continues to come apart in the wake of a devisive election" was a main theme..within the article.. "the passions Trump stoked as a candidate have only increased since the election, impelling chants of "Not my President in cities across the country, a syrge in reported hate crimes, profound fear among the people thecandidate vowed to expel from the country andnot least, the mainstreaming of white nationalist"Seems here these real fears that folks have expressed seem to get a response that they should tighten up or do something with their nickers.. A quick announcement on 60 minutes and that is it is not enough from our next President..he owes the American public more then that and that includes those who voted for him too. So many of those people voted not so much for him but against in their eyes what would be worse, the Hillery. While I do not understand that and disagree vehemetly lets move on..Hillery is out of the picture..Donald is the heir elect/apparent ..that is a given...it is his rhetoric and claims,his own words so captured by so many, wants, desires as HE voiced them that has Dems and so many Pubs too alarmed..he needs to denounce these fringe hate groups , major ones by name, meaning KKK and their leader, Duke...till then..he tries to keep their support by not coming down hard..then many including me will feel and state..."He is NOT my President"
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 0:36:22 GMT -5
He actually did tell people to stop it, on his 60 Minutes interview. I guess that's how he'll deal with ISIS. "STOP IT!" It's not like he can go to every home with a miscreant in it and tell them personally. I also find it interesting that not a single news source reported that little bit of information. Not even Fox News (who everyone thinks is in his pocket) did.
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Post by OldCoyote on Dec 1, 2016 7:50:24 GMT -5
When I go overseas I'll just tell people I'm Bahamian. It'll be OK. Ahhh, yes, the love other countries have towards Americans, Of course that love is directed toward the American citizens that has zero control over it's government overseas operations! That reminds me of a co-worker, who spoke fluent Italian, Whenever he was out of the Country, he would say he was Italian. That way fewer people would spit into his food!
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 1, 2016 8:46:49 GMT -5
Should the passengers get out of their seats and walk away from the aircraft and gate so as not to hear this man's drivel? It's not as if this idiot was standing on a soapbox by a street corner. How do the passengers and crew know this is the worst this jerk is going to be on this flight? Or could he become even more irrational and maybe fight passengers and crew. Being stuck in a confined enviorment is a lot different than being out in the open where it's easy to just walk away..
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