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Post by suesinfl on Nov 2, 2016 16:48:01 GMT -5
Bob Ross, you have the weirdest/greatest sense of humor and I can always count on you for a laugh, thanks.
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Post by 973beachbum on Nov 2, 2016 17:20:56 GMT -5
So you think because the taxpayers aren't paying for your children you are being screwed? Seriously?
I think he meant that when you are rich you can either afford a nanny, au pair or whatever daycare strikes your fancy because you got the dough. When you are low enough income wise you qualify for assistance. When you are in the middle you don't qualify for anything but daycare can still be the size of a mortgage/rent payment. I will say daycare assistance must depend on the state because ours is NOTHING like what I've seen described here. In Iowa it is a lottery system, first come first serve for a handful of voucher per year so the wait list is HUGE. The cut off is also very steep so a small raise could result in you holding the bag for the full cost of daycare overnight. Our system is not one I would want to deal with given the choice. I can understand why people on all ends of the income spectrum decide it's more cost effective to not work while the children are daycare age which here is until they are 12. DH commented that it often feels like we are working solely for the privlege of paying for daycare. I try to remind myself that I would be giving up my employer match, compounding interest and employer subsidized health insurance if I quit. I am giving up a lot more than I am gaining if I don't work. However it hurts to write that monthly check. Two years and counting till Abby is in school and we're done with full time daycare. That is exactly what it is like here in NJ too. I asked when DS was little because they were constantly fundraising for it. I know now that I got a good deal but I did pay full price and it got old being asked to subsidize others on top of it. The woman very proudly explained how the center fund raised to pay half of what it cost for the daycare for the enrolled children. She went on to explain the waiting list was "only" three years then. And in order to get on the waiting list the parent has to be eligible for the daycare subsidy and have a child already enrolled. As soon as their "number comes up" their child starts getting the free daycare. I never could get them to explain how I would even know I if I was going to need daycare in three years.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2016 21:08:49 GMT -5
MN has a wait list for subsidized daycare too, but it's on a per county basis. In my county, there is no wait (last I checked), but some counties with a large population, especially one with a lot of low income people might have a long wait. I know some of the counties around the twin cities are pretty bad.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 3:04:18 GMT -5
Sooooo..about this job? What kind of experience do you need and would relocation costs be approved? Since it sounds like the Mayo Clinic is in the area I can drag DH's ass out there and he can see specialists there. I would need to trade the CRV in for a truck though. There's over 100 openings, so as little as a GED for production work (probably 60% of the openings or more) to things like, supply chain, planners, schedulers, engineering... I would imagine they don't do much of anything for the production people as far as relocating, but engineer, supply chain manager? Yeah, I'm sure they'd be willing to talk. One facility is about 10 minutes from Mayo, the other about 45. If you're really interested I can PM you a link to the company website. Please do. I have GOT to gt out of my job. THANKS!!! I do like it out in that area and I actually know a couple of people I grew up with here who live there.
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Post by TheHaitian on Nov 4, 2016 8:04:39 GMT -5
There's over 100 openings, so as little as a GED for production work (probably 60% of the openings or more) to things like, supply chain, planners, schedulers, engineering... I would imagine they don't do much of anything for the production people as far as relocating, but engineer, supply chain manager? Yeah, I'm sure they'd be willing to talk. One facility is about 10 minutes from Mayo, the other about 45. If you're really interested I can PM you a link to the company website. Please do. I have GOT to gt out of my job. THANKS!!! I do like it out in that area and I actually know a couple of people I grew up with here who live there. You would relocate out of MA
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 4, 2016 9:08:36 GMT -5
I've never understood the attraction of those that live in the east or the Midwest to their states. I couldn't wait to get away from the cold weather and the attitudes.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 10:30:40 GMT -5
And I could never live in FL. I HATE heat and humidity.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Nov 4, 2016 10:36:59 GMT -5
I hate flying cockroaches and sinkholes that can swallow you alive.
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Post by taz157 on Nov 4, 2016 12:14:53 GMT -5
And I could never live in FL. I HATE heat and humidity. There are areas I would move to again and areas I would avoid if DH decided to move back.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 15:34:10 GMT -5
Please do. I have GOT to gt out of my job. THANKS!!! I do like it out in that area and I actually know a couple of people I grew up with here who live there. You would relocate out of MA In a heartbeat. I didn't move here voluntarily in the first place but the government frowns on letting 7-year-olds live by themselves. At least they did back then. I plan to move out to the Mid-West eventually anyway. Why not look into it now?
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Post by taz157 on Nov 4, 2016 15:44:22 GMT -5
In a heartbeat. I didn't move here voluntarily in the first place but the government frowns on letting 7-year-olds live by themselves. At least they did back then. I plan to move out to the Mid-West eventually anyway. Why not look into it now?You have a point. Granted, I have no desire to move to MA anyway. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
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Post by 973beachbum on Nov 5, 2016 9:24:58 GMT -5
I hate flying cockroaches and sinkholes that can swallow you alive. Not to mention alligators.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Nov 5, 2016 9:44:19 GMT -5
I hate flying cockroaches and sinkholes that can swallow you alive. Not to mention alligators. Very good point! My DH has an inexplicable alligator phobia.
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Nov 9, 2016 22:27:20 GMT -5
Alligators are death machines.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Nov 10, 2016 0:27:19 GMT -5
Alligators are death machines. Except when you live in a state with a climate too cold for them to survive. Why have nightmares about them then, is what I'd like to know. The tornado dreams I kinda understand, as he did attend college in Kansas.
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Nov 11, 2016 11:27:03 GMT -5
I read somewhere if you are ever face to face with one, the key to survival is trying to keep its jaws closed. The muscles that clamp the jaws down are way stronger than a human. But the muscles that open the mouth are weak. Not sure if that is true, and don't plan to find out.
ETA: I mean, if running isn't a choice. Also, if running is a choice, run in a zig zag since they can move quickly straight, but their awkward proportions make it difficult for them to weave.
ETA2: Weaving is cwitical to escaping an awwigator and wemaining awive.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2016 11:40:30 GMT -5
ETA2: Weaving is cwitical to escaping an awwigator and wemaining awive.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Nov 11, 2016 12:08:50 GMT -5
Yeah, I used to watch--what's his name? Steve Irwin, I think. Crocodile Hunter. Alligators are supposed to be a lot slower.
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 11, 2016 12:34:37 GMT -5
Yeah, I used to watch--what's his name? Steve Irwin, I think. Crocodile Hunter. Alligators are supposed to be a lot slower. They aren't. They can outrun you which is why we say to run zig zag. That is harder for them.
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Post by andi9899 on Nov 11, 2016 12:49:22 GMT -5
Alligators are death machines. Except when you live in a state with a climate too cold for them to survive. Why have nightmares about them then, is what I'd like to know. The tornado dreams I kinda understand, as he did attend college in Kansas. My friend lives in CT and says she could never live here because of the tornadoes. I've lived here my whole life and never seen one up close. Now we can add earthquakes to the list. My house has been shaking more in the last few months than ever.
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Post by zibazinski on Nov 11, 2016 12:51:36 GMT -5
Except when you live in a state with a climate too cold for them to survive. Why have nightmares about them then, is what I'd like to know. The tornado dreams I kinda understand, as he did attend college in Kansas. My friend lives in CT and says she could never live here because of the tornadoes. I've lived here my whole life and never seen one up close. Now we can add earthquakes to the list. My house has been shaking more in the last few months than ever.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Nov 11, 2016 13:28:07 GMT -5
Except when you live in a state with a climate too cold for them to survive. Why have nightmares about them then, is what I'd like to know. The tornado dreams I kinda understand, as he did attend college in Kansas. My friend lives in CT and says she could never live here because of the tornadoes. I've lived here my whole life and never seen one up close. Now we can add earthquakes to the list. My house has been shaking more in the last few months than ever. After watching storm stories, I don't think I could either. . That's weird about the earthquakes. I remember hearing about some in the middle of the country--was it last year?. Off to Google...
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Post by andi9899 on Nov 11, 2016 13:40:14 GMT -5
My friend lives in CT and says she could never live here because of the tornadoes. I've lived here my whole life and never seen one up close. Now we can add earthquakes to the list. My house has been shaking more in the last few months than ever. After watching storm stories, I don't think I could either. . That's weird about the earthquakes. I remember hearing about some in the middle of the country--was it last year?. Off to Google... They're actually happening in OK, but since we're so close, we're feeling them too. We have had about 4 of them in the last couple of years. 3 of those have been in the last couple of months. There was one labor day weekend where I thought my foundation was giving. It was kinda scary.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Nov 11, 2016 14:39:10 GMT -5
After watching storm stories, I don't think I could either. . That's weird about the earthquakes. I remember hearing about some in the middle of the country--was it last year?. Off to Google... They're actually happening in OK, but since we're so close, we're feeling them too. We have had about 4 of them in the last couple of years. 3 of those have been in the last couple of months. There was one labor day weekend where I thought my foundation was giving. It was kinda scary. I bet it was scary. Damn-- some weird shit.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2016 15:00:28 GMT -5
They're actually happening in OK, but since we're so close, we're feeling them too. We have had about 4 of them in the last couple of years. 3 of those have been in the last couple of months. There was one labor day weekend where I thought my foundation was giving. It was kinda scary. I bet it was scary. Damn-- some weird shit. Missouri got hit with a 7.5 earthquake back in the 1800's. There are tectonic plates running through that area, but instead of shifting frequently like in CA, they build up for long stretches before there's big one. Then quiet again.
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Post by NastyWoman on Nov 11, 2016 15:52:48 GMT -5
I bet it was scary. Damn-- some weird shit. Missouri got hit with a 7.5 earthquake back in the 1800's. There are tectonic plates running through that area, but instead of shifting frequently like in CA, they build up for long stretches before there's big one. Then quiet again. And if there are no mountain ranges or other barriers between the epicenter those waves can travel a looooooong way. Just read up un the New Madrid eartquake of 1811-12 MPL mentions above. It would be real bad if one of those occured now with all those people living in areas with hardly any earthquake safety buidling codes...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2016 16:03:55 GMT -5
Missouri got hit with a 7.5 earthquake back in the 1800's. There are tectonic plates running through that area, but instead of shifting frequently like in CA, they build up for long stretches before there's big one. Then quiet again. And if there are no mountain ranges or other barriers between the epicenter those waves can travel a looooooong way. Just read up un the New Madrid eartquake of 1811-12 MPL mentions above. It would be real bad if one of those occured now with all those people living in areas with hardly any earthquake safety buidling codes... I have. Craziness! The Mississippi ran backwards!
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Post by TheOtherMe on Nov 12, 2016 21:05:11 GMT -5
And I could never live in FL. I HATE heat and humidity. Would never move to hurricane country. Don't particularly care for the Midwest, but it is what it is. I have lived through a tornado that took everything on the farm but the house. The people were all in the house. I have no desire to live in earthquake country. Places like Arizona and Nevada are too hot for me. I would like to move back to the Rocky Mountains, but it's too expensive. Too many people have figured out how wonderful it is to live there.
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Post by 973beachbum on Nov 13, 2016 8:32:39 GMT -5
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Post by gooddecisions on Nov 14, 2016 12:08:06 GMT -5
I think people are a little out of touch with what the cost of daycare can be, depending on where you live and if you don't have subsidies. I'm paying about $46,500/year for 3 in full-time daycare (just a regular licensed center, nothing super special). So, I take advantage of the DC FSA and that brings my $46,000 daycare bill down to about $45,000/year. And this is not a temporary expense, over the course of 10 years per kid (15 years of my working years), I will pay approximately $100,000 per kid for daycare, because there is still after school and summers to consider and that tuition has risen considerably-- an underestimate because in reality it will be until they are at least 12 to abide by the state laws.
The cost of daycare is spiraling out of control and competing with the all ready out of control cost of college tuition. It's a complex issue, just like most and I don't really know what the solution is. But, I don't think it's as simple as saying, don't have children if you can't afford them or find jobs with opposite shifts so you don't have to pay daycare.
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