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Post by swamp on Oct 28, 2016 21:12:19 GMT -5
Why no dairy? Cheese sticks are a staple around here.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Oct 28, 2016 22:31:03 GMT -5
Someone is allergic to dairy
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Post by swamp on Oct 29, 2016 9:22:41 GMT -5
do they share food?
If I bring a cheese stick in my lunch, I'm not sure how it would affect the dude next to me who is allergic to dairy? Same thing with gluten. Peanut butter, I get.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Oct 29, 2016 12:18:13 GMT -5
But the biggies are. And this is a biggie in so many ways... 1) Food habits are set early but also throughout childhood. Harder to break bad habits later than to avoid getting into them in the first place. So for me, starting kids on a good balance of healthy eating is a hill to die on. 2) Kids DO NOT get to justify their bad choices by implying that mom tempted them. If MJ gives in to this, she's sending a signal to her son that she will excuse him for bad choices if he uses the excuse that it was her fault because ______. She also signals that it's OK to disobey a rule that's unpleasant or if you just don't want to do it. 3) Lets X think it's OK to blame MJ for DS' behavior when she's not there. That's a recipe for disaster long term. Both DS and X are essentially blaming her for son's disobedience... if that's not a hill to die on, I don't know what is. MJ's DS is little. If her X and her DS don't respect her or feel it's OK to justify DS' bad choices on her not "tempting" or "cajoling" him sufficiently, I can't imagine how that will grow in the future. It's line in the sand time. DS and X do not get to manipulate her or use her for a punching bag if DS goes astray. MJ does her job by sending her son a reasonable lunch. Period. End of Discussion. Next. I get all that.... I really do. This lunch issue is one of many examples of X's and my differing parenting styles. And that I think DS has behavioral issues needing to be addressed and X has blown me off for almost 2 years. Now teachers are starting to be concerned. There are just so many layers to the dysfunction and I am just tired. I have no familial support here and X makes almost everything into a battle. Yes, I know that's no excuse but I'm just so very tired. Sorry for the thread detour. go ahead and detour. Hell, I detoured in a politics thread about my runaway niece. Detours aren't an issue.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Oct 29, 2016 12:23:12 GMT -5
Why no dairy? Cheese sticks are a staple around here. they're a staple here too.
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Post by yogiii on Oct 31, 2016 6:29:30 GMT -5
I just came back from a co-op where I am not allowed to bring any kind of nuts or anything that was processed in a nut facility any kind of gluten any kind of dairy nothing with any additives Co-op is 4 hrs long and is from 1-4pm I very rarely buy lunch meat, but I guess my kids will be living in the salami heaven mixed with carrots, apples and grapes bc I am completely lost as to what to bring for their lunches. The correct answer is plain chips (potatoes, oil, salt).
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Post by 973beachbum on Oct 31, 2016 7:21:59 GMT -5
do they share food?
If I bring a cheese stick in my lunch, I'm not sure how it would affect the dude next to me who is allergic to dairy? Same thing with gluten. Peanut butter, I get. My kids school has a table set aside for allergies. So the students who have a peanut allergy can sit there and not worry about peanut butter getting on the table and the residue. BUT the whole school isn't required to be "safe". They don't do that for things like dairy or gluten though. I would think because with the exception of peanuts and tree nuts people usually have to ingest it to get an allergic reaction. And for the record my son had a dairy allergy. I would bet good money that there is peanut butter still on my son or his clothes from the sandwich he ate last Friday. So I seriously doubt an entire school could actually be made totally safe of anything.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Oct 31, 2016 7:23:56 GMT -5
I just came back from a co-op where I am not allowed to bring any kind of nuts or anything that was processed in a nut facility any kind of gluten any kind of dairy nothing with any additives Co-op is 4 hrs long and is from 1-4pm I very rarely buy lunch meat, but I guess my kids will be living in the salami heaven mixed with carrots, apples and grapes bc I am completely lost as to what to bring for their lunches. The correct answer is plain chips (potatoes, oil, salt). Yeah, Panera chips are good but some of the ones sold in Market Basket evidently have some kind of crap that some kids are allergic to.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Oct 31, 2016 7:27:30 GMT -5
do they share food?
If I bring a cheese stick in my lunch, I'm not sure how it would affect the dude next to me who is allergic to dairy? Same thing with gluten. Peanut butter, I get. They technically don't share food but I was given a 15 min lecture from the mom of the "gluten" girl how it's it's that girl's "safe place" and it's so good for her to know what she is "safe" there. The mom of the "dairy" girls was standing there and nodding. But not all is lost - the woman who runs the co-op didn't seem to be too impressed with "safe place" argument. My kids really like this co-op so I will try to keep my mouth shut. for now.
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Post by swamp on Oct 31, 2016 8:14:24 GMT -5
"safe place" is one of those terms that makes me stabby.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Oct 31, 2016 8:29:42 GMT -5
"safe place" is one of those terms that makes me stabby.
Believe me - it was very hard to keep a straight face.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Oct 31, 2016 10:04:12 GMT -5
This thread got me looking thru my sneaky chef books again. Here's one to settle the mac and cheese debate. Lunch box muffins mac and cheese flavor 4 large eggs 1 cup orange puree 2 cups macaroni 2 cups shredded cheese of your choice, recipe calls for low fat Salt and pepper Preheat oven to 350 In a mixing bowl whisk eggs and orange puree. Mix in macaroni and 1.5 cups cheese. Divide into 8 muffins. Top with one tbsp cheese and bake for 20 to 22 minutes till cheese is melts and brown. I've done this with regular mac and cheese. I used baby food squash. DH didn't even notice which means a kid definitely shouldn't. You could bump it up and use whole noodles or ronzoni smart pasta. Can be eaten at room temp so no thermos or anything required
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Post by Miss Tequila on Oct 31, 2016 10:12:36 GMT -5
do they share food?
If I bring a cheese stick in my lunch, I'm not sure how it would affect the dude next to me who is allergic to dairy? Same thing with gluten. Peanut butter, I get. They technically don't share food but I was given a 15 min lecture from the mom of the "gluten" girl how it's it's that girl's "safe place" and it's so good for her to know what she is "safe" there. The mom of the "dairy" girls was standing there and nodding. But not all is lost - the woman who runs the co-op didn't seem to be too impressed with "safe place" argument. My kids really like this co-op so I will try to keep my mouth shut. for now. And crap like this is what is leading to the pussification of America. FFS, it's gluten not a god damn pedophile!
And you can see why I've never been invited to a co-op type setting
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Oct 31, 2016 10:18:07 GMT -5
My kids have a basic understanding of gluten free, due to DH. It's kind of sweet to see them asking DH if he can eat whatever it is they're eating because they want to share with him.
And DH has gotten the lecture from me about accepting it gracefully because damnit, the kids are TRYING to share a snack with Daddy. This is NOT the time to be fussy about not wanting a damn cracker because it has preservatives.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2016 10:23:37 GMT -5
I don't understand not allowing foods that aren't airborne. Doesn't it make more sense to tell the allergic child not to eat other people's food?
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Oct 31, 2016 10:31:23 GMT -5
You would think....
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Post by giramomma on Oct 31, 2016 12:09:53 GMT -5
They technically don't share food but I was given a 15 min lecture from the mom of the "gluten" girl how it's it's that girl's "safe place" and it's so good for her to know what she is "safe" there. The mom of the "dairy" girls was standing there and nodding. But not all is lost - the woman who runs the co-op didn't seem to be too impressed with "safe place" argument. My kids really like this co-op so I will try to keep my mouth shut. for now. That's crap. We have some severely allergic kids in DD1's class. One got anaphylactic shock a few years ago because her brother spilled milk on accident and she touched it. I love her mom. Her mom is raising her to navigate a world with allergens. DD1's friend knows how to work an epi-pen and will teach everyone/anyone how to use it if needed. She always asks if food is safe, and comes prepared if it isn't.
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Post by giramomma on Oct 31, 2016 12:12:34 GMT -5
I don't understand not allowing foods that aren't airborne. Doesn't it make more sense to tell the allergic child not to eat other people's food? It's not always about eating the food. The kids that I know with real bad allergies have reactions from touching the food or coming in contact with the residue of that particular food. ETA: You can have food touch you, without actually eating it. Spills, ice cream melting, etc happens.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Oct 31, 2016 14:50:13 GMT -5
They technically don't share food but I was given a 15 min lecture from the mom of the "gluten" girl how it's it's that girl's "safe place" and it's so good for her to know what she is "safe" there. The mom of the "dairy" girls was standing there and nodding. But not all is lost - the woman who runs the co-op didn't seem to be too impressed with "safe place" argument. My kids really like this co-op so I will try to keep my mouth shut. for now. And crap like this is what is leading to the pussification of America. FFS, it's gluten not a god damn pedophile!
And you can see why I've never been invited to a co-op type setting
Caveat: I never insisted that anywhere other then my own home be safe for my kids because no one else can be relied upon to keep other places safe. Folks might really want to try, but, unless you live anaphylactic food allergies 24/7 you're not going to know the sneaky places where allergens can appear (hand soap, shampoo, lotion, the multitude of different names an allergen can be called, etc.). That said, gluten is one of the tricky ones in that one can be sensitive to it while someone else can have a life-threatening, anaphylactic, allergy to it with lots of other issues in between. So, while not a pedophile, gluten can be akin to a highly venomous snake.
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Post by NastyWoman on Oct 31, 2016 14:57:12 GMT -5
Caveat: I never insisted that anywhere other then my own home be safe for my kids because no one else can be relied upon to keep other places safe. Folks might really want to try, but, unless you live anaphylactic food allergies 24/7 you're not going to know the sneaky places where allergens can appear (hand soap, shampoo, lotion, the multitude of different names an allergen can be called, etc.). That said, gluten is one of the tricky ones in that one can be sensitive to it while someone else can have a life-threatening, anaphylactic, allergy to it with lots of other issues in between. So, while not a pedophile, gluten can be akin to a highly venomous snake. and that is also why I believe that efforts to keep entire buildings free of certain substances actually is more dangerous for kids with allergies than to teach them certain rules (don't touch someone else's food, don't eat what I did not give you, etc.) and try to keep small confined areas safe. A child that is taught that these elusive "safe zones" exist, may end up less on guard for things to avoid in all circumstances then a child that is taught to be cautious at all times.
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