naughtybear
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Post by naughtybear on Oct 2, 2016 19:15:02 GMT -5
Unless you have a food allergy or sensitivity, any diet telling you to severely restrict or eliminate one of the 4 basic food groups is suspect to me. Totally agree. I have a hard time believing an eating plan is unhealthy because it contains one apple per day. That is just insane.
Well considering type 2 diabetes is a disease and it can be controlled by limiting carbs .... not sure anyone has said so far about not eating apples.
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formerroomate99
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Post by formerroomate99 on Oct 3, 2016 1:37:24 GMT -5
It's isn't just how many carbs you eat. You also have to consider how fast they hit your blood stream.
I would recommend seeing a real dietician. Doctors don't know squat about nutrition and the internet is full of crackpots.
I've seen what diabetes does to a person's body and mind. It is a painful, undignified way to do. Giving up some of the foods you enjoy is not going to kill you. Continuing to eat them will.
I'm reactive hypoglycemic, which is similar to diabetes. When my blood sugar drops, I crave sugar and starch--intensely. If I'm stupid enough to eat it, I feel great for a while, because my blood sugar has spiked, and then it drops like a rock, I feel like crap for the rest of the day. Maybe your carb cravings are due to a similar mechanism?
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Happy prose
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Post by Happy prose on Oct 3, 2016 5:12:11 GMT -5
I think I will see a dietition. Will they run bloodwork, or do I have to go to my regular dr first?
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Oct 3, 2016 15:09:49 GMT -5
50 a day would be crazy hard for me. I won't give up fruit. Berries are a yummy, low in carb fruit.
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Happy prose
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Post by Happy prose on Oct 3, 2016 17:19:36 GMT -5
50 a day would be crazy hard for me. I won't give up fruit. Berries are a yummy, low in carb fruit. Music to my ears! I usually bring two pieces of fruit to work everyday; today I replaced one of them with cut up cucmber. Next time I go shopping, I'll get berries.
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weltschmerz
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 3, 2016 17:51:41 GMT -5
I'm a fruit junkie. I've been known to go out in a blizzard because I need a fruit fix.
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Post by cronewitch on Oct 4, 2016 7:44:15 GMT -5
I remember reading that some of you were low carbers. Recently reading over my blood work from my physical, my number was just at prediabetes, although the doctor never called me. Just to be safe, I'd like to lower my carb intake. (I'm a carb junkie). I can't find anywhere how many grams per day I should eat. I'm 5'1", and weight 129lbs. I have a desk job, but walk 30 minutes 6x a week. Not so good with other exercises though. What's a good number of carbs to try for? I actually forget what my sugar # was, but it was the lowest number in the prediabetes range. Also, many years ago, I did low carb for weight loss, and I remember calculating net carbs. A diabetic friend said net doesn't count in diabetes; a carb is a carb. Any info will be helpful! Try to limit each meal to 20-25 carbs but go for the most whole you can find like brown rice not white rice or beans instead of bread. Some carbs hit your blood harder than others, nuts have carbs but don't work up the blood sugar as much as something simple like honey or sugar or white flour for the same amount of carbs. Small carb loads all day work better than a carb bing. Meat and nuts help keep your blood sugar stable.
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Post by Sam_2.0 on Oct 6, 2016 10:19:24 GMT -5
Another thing to help balance the blood sugar spike is to make sure that your carbs are paired with a decent protein and some fiber. I have to make sure I have a decent protein source when I have pasta, for example, or I feel like crap very soon just from a small amount. Same for sandwiches. In general I don't eat bread or pasta often though. I just don't care too much for it anymore.
A quick meal for me is often a piece of fruit with some greek yogurt. The protein in the yogurt helps balance out the sugar from the fruit. If I just have the fruit I am feeling sick soon because of the sugar spike without anything to help it out.
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Post by Tiny on Oct 6, 2016 11:17:14 GMT -5
I can't agree more with Sam814 about the carb/protein/fiber connection.. I've got a whole slew of diabetic friends (all are obese or better) who for years simply took a pill to control their diabetes. They are in their 50's and it's getting worse - they are on insulin and being threatened with kidney failure and a whole host of other issues. They are finally coming around to the idea that maybe they need to change what (and the way) they eat. One of them finally had the 'light bulb' moment after years of visits to nutritionists/dieticians/doctors that while a quick carb hit (like apple juice) will make her feel better it won't last unless it's followed by some protein and fiber. She's also coming around to the idea that maybe if she creates a meal (or snack) built around protein, fiber, and carbs she won't have so many "low" or "high" sugar episodes during the week (she takes insulin but just eats whatever and whenever she wants - I don't think she really understands....) I'm not sure if it's the diabetes fogging her mind or it's just avoidance (as in it's hard to change and it's really awful if you have to stop doing what you've always done (what you've always eaten in the past).)
On the "low carb" bread thing: I like Dieter's Choice Healthy Life breads and Aldi's FlatBread wraps (read the labels there's a lot of variation in the 'flavors') I've had an assortment of round lo-cab wraps but most of those have what I feel is an odd texture.
I'm not really lo-cab - I was mostly going for a 'bread' to make sandwiches with that had some fiber not too much added sugar and maybe some protein that weren't particularly loaded with calories. The low carb thing was a side benefit.
It's all about portion sizes (which seem absurbly small if you are use to "restaurant" serving sizes). And I've found that the Healthy Life breads help me make appropriate sized sandwiches.
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