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Post by Value Buy on Jun 30, 2016 14:55:48 GMT -5
Lots of inconsistencies in the report. It was said she was arriving, Bill was leaving, and yet, it says she reported they talked on the plane when she was leaving. guess the cover up has already been started.......
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Lynch was arriving for a community policing event as Clinton was departing, when the former president relayed through a security detail that he would like to say hello. The attorney general will ultimately determine the outcome of the ongoing investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server while she was secretary of State.
Lynch, during a later meeting with reporters, acknowledged the meeting with Bill Clinton but said there was no discussion of the investigation involving his wife, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, or the congressional report that examined her response to the deadly Benghazi embassy attacks.
"I did see President Clinton at the Phoenix airport as I was leaving, and he spoke to myself and my husband on the plane,'' Lynch told reporters. "Our conversation was a great deal about his grandchildren. It was primarily social and about our travels .''
Lynch said the two also discussed Janet Reno, who served as attorney general during the Clinton administration, "but there was no discussion of any matter pending for the department or any matter pending for any other body.''
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Post by Value Buy on Jun 30, 2016 15:31:39 GMT -5
So maybe she should recuse herself from the investigation and turn it over to someone not connected to Bill and Hillary.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 30, 2016 15:39:55 GMT -5
So maybe she should recuse herself from the investigation and turn it over to someone not connected to Bill and Hillary. I would have no problem with that. But that is up to her and the Justice department. Bill Clinton meeting causes headaches for HillaryNot the smartest move by Bill Clinton.
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Post by Value Buy on Jun 30, 2016 15:48:35 GMT -5
I agree. Bill just keeps sticking it to her, and I have to wonder, is he that oblivious to these situations, or does he think he is that special, that it does not matter. I am welling to admit it might have been very innocent, but both know what is going on with Hillary and also their Foundation.
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Post by zibazinski on Jun 30, 2016 21:42:40 GMT -5
I think with the amount of people who have had contact with them dying under some bizarre circumstances, she's pretty safe-for now.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jun 30, 2016 22:40:33 GMT -5
"I'm going to say 'hi' and chat privately with the woman who could shortly be filing an indictment against my wife. Duhhhhhh. I was da pwesident. Duhhhhh."
And this is giving the Clintons the benefit of the doubt.
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Post by Value Buy on Jul 5, 2016 8:26:37 GMT -5
"I'm going to say 'hi' and chat privately with the woman who could shortly be filing an indictment against my wife. Duhhhhhh. I was da pwesident. Duhhhhh." And this is giving the Clintons the benefit of the doubt. Yes! The media was in a tizzy over a Trump tweet, and yet, he it was just Bubba being Bubba. I have no idea what Lynch's excuse was. I am thinking she winds up resigning by Friday after 3pm and everyone moves on. Why Friday after 3 pm? So American voters miss it over the weekend, and she is a distant memory by Monday
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 5, 2016 9:07:30 GMT -5
"I'm going to say 'hi' and chat privately with the woman who could shortly be filing an indictment against my wife. Duhhhhhh. I was da pwesident. Duhhhhh." And this is giving the Clintons the benefit of the doubt. Yes! The media was in a tizzy over a Trump tweet, and yet, he it was just Bubba being Bubba. I have no idea what Lynch's excuse was. I am thinking she winds up resigning by Friday after 3pm and everyone moves on. Why Friday after 3 pm? So American voters miss it over the weekend, and she is a distant memory by Monday For posterity. Or at least until Monday, July 11.
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Post by Value Buy on Jul 5, 2016 9:14:30 GMT -5
Yes! The media was in a tizzy over a Trump tweet, and yet, he it was just Bubba being Bubba. I have no idea what Lynch's excuse was. I am thinking she winds up resigning by Friday after 3pm and everyone moves on. Why Friday after 3 pm? So American voters miss it over the weekend, and she is a distant memory by Monday For posterity. Or at least until Monday, July 11. Looks like Bill's little talk worked. FBI Director is making an important announcement at 11 am. Unless he is calling for an outside investigation of Lynch and Bubba, Hillary will probably get the clean bill of health.
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Post by Value Buy on Jul 5, 2016 10:40:21 GMT -5
Will that was a bummer. Comey explained for ten minutes everything she did wrong, and then recommended no charges, because any cases handled before this were much more illegal than this, so there is no precedent. She sent and received classified e-mails, and anyone in her capacity (his description of her) should/would know they were classified and some top secret on a non authorized non protected computer server. Bill got the job done for her.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 5, 2016 11:24:59 GMT -5
VB- i am not aware of her SENDING any THEN classified information. did i miss something?
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Post by sesfw on Jul 5, 2016 11:53:47 GMT -5
Bill got the job done for her.
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Post by Value Buy on Jul 5, 2016 12:04:56 GMT -5
VB- i am not aware of her SENDING any THEN classified information. did i miss something? Director Comey stated there was classified information received and sent by Hillary. He also said anyone sending it to her was high enough up the chain to know it, as was she. He insinuated there is no way she did not know some things were classified that were sent to her, or sent by her to someone else. He also stated her lawyers missed some e-mails that were sensitive in nature, because all they checked was the title of the memo, rather than what was in the message. The lawyers also scrubbed the server after checking e-mails that were not sent to the FBI in a way to make them unretrievable. YOU KNOW, DESTROYING THE EVIDENCE........why destroy private e-mails if they are all about "nothing"?
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VB- i am not aware of her SENDING any THEN classified information. did i miss something? Director Comey stated there was classified information received and sent by Hillary. He also said anyone sending it to her was high enough up the chain to know it, as was she. He insinuated there is no way she did not know some things were classified that were sent to her, or sent by her to someone else. He also stated her lawyers missed some e-mails that were sensitive in nature, because all they checked was the title of the memo, rather than what was in the message. The lawyers also scrubbed the server after checking e-mails that were not sent to the FBI in a way to make them unretrievable. YOU KNOW, DESTROYING THE EVIDENCE........why destroy private e-mails if they are all about "nothing"? i understand that. but i am not aware of any VERIFIED PROOF that she SENT classified information. is that true?
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For posterity. Or at least until Monday, July 11. Looks like Bill's little talk worked. FBI Director is making an important announcement at 11 am. Unless he is calling for an outside investigation of Lynch and Bubba, Hillary will probably get the clean bill of health. Alright, alright, alright!
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VB- i am not aware of her SENDING any THEN classified information. did i miss something? Director Comey stated there was classified information received and sent by Hillary. He also said anyone sending it to her was high enough up the chain to know it, as was she. He insinuated there is no way she did not know some things were classified that were sent to her, or sent by her to someone else. He also stated her lawyers missed some e-mails that were sensitive in nature, because all they checked was the title of the memo, rather than what was in the message. The lawyers also scrubbed the server after checking e-mails that were not sent to the FBI in a way to make them unretrievable. YOU KNOW, DESTROYING THE EVIDENCE........why destroy private e-mails if they are all about "nothing"? apparently he didn't state his case very convincingly: talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/comey-clinton-email-servercan we both agree that this is OVER?
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"I'm going to say 'hi' and chat privately with the woman who could shortly be filing an indictment against my wife. Duhhhhhh. I was da pwesident. Duhhhhh." And this is giving the Clintons the benefit of the doubt. Yes! The media was in a tizzy over a Trump tweet, and yet, he it was just Bubba being Bubba. I have no idea what Lynch's excuse was. I am thinking she winds up resigning by Friday after 3pm and everyone moves on. Why Friday after 3 pm? So American voters miss it over the weekend, and she is a distant memory by Monday Why would she have to resign?
I heard someone who interviewed her talking about it yesterday. He said her staff had left the plane, it was just the AG and her security detail. Then here comes Bubba trotting onto the plane. If her staff had been there, she could have used them as a shield to politely ask the President to get his happy ass off the plane. But she didn't have any minions to deflect him so she had to speak to him herself. Very awkward for her, but she says they only discussed grandkids, etc, and I don't have any reason to doubt her. Not like the two of them somehow conspired for a secret meeting.
Bill has always been like one of those shaggy yellow labs, friendly to the point he's annoying, 100% certain everyone is overjoyed to see him and to have him hump their leg. Useful in certain political circumstances, embarrassing in others - like this one.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jul 5, 2016 15:47:37 GMT -5
Director Comey stated there was classified information received and sent by Hillary. He also said anyone sending it to her was high enough up the chain to know it, as was she. He insinuated there is no way she did not know some things were classified that were sent to her, or sent by her to someone else. He also stated her lawyers missed some e-mails that were sensitive in nature, because all they checked was the title of the memo, rather than what was in the message. The lawyers also scrubbed the server after checking e-mails that were not sent to the FBI in a way to make them unretrievable. YOU KNOW, DESTROYING THE EVIDENCE........why destroy private e-mails if they are all about "nothing"? apparently he didn't state his case very convincingly: talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/comey-clinton-email-servercan we both agree that this is OVER? What do you mean by OVER? To US conservatives, this is the smoking gun that proves Ms. Clinton is above the law. The investigation might be over, but the issue certainly isn't.
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What do you mean by OVER? To US conservatives, this is the smoking gun that proves Ms. Clinton is above the law. The investigation might be over, but the issue certainly isn't. really? so, you are saying that this is a deeper conspiracy because of this ruling? seriously? please, no sarcasm, because i really can't tell the difference when it comes to this subject.
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Post by sesfw on Jul 5, 2016 18:19:35 GMT -5
I'm beginning to think this is a clever case of the 'best defense is a good offense'. Within minutes of this meeting there was a 'news leak' about it. This could have been a very well planned incident so AG Loretta Lynch would have to excuse herself. More proof the billary team are crooked lawyers that will do anything to get what they want. What do you mean by OVER?
To US conservatives, this is the smoking gun that proves Ms. Clinton is above the law. The investigation might be over, but the issue certainly isn't.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 5, 2016 19:44:57 GMT -5
I'm beginning to think this is a clever case of the 'best defense is a good offense'. Within minutes of this meeting there was a 'news leak' about it. This could have been a very well planned incident so AG Loretta Lynch would have to excuse herself. More proof the billary team are crooked lawyers that will do anything to get what they want. What do you mean by OVER?
To US conservatives, this is the smoking gun that proves Ms. Clinton is above the law. The investigation might be over, but the issue certainly isn't.
yeah, what? what is "the issue" that is not over, sesfw?
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I'm beginning to think this is a clever case of the 'best defense is a good offense'. Within minutes of this meeting there was a 'news leak' about it. This could have been a very well planned incident so AG Loretta Lynch would have to excuse herself. More proof the billary team are crooked lawyers that will do anything to get what they want. ... And if it had been days before it was in the media, it would have been proof the biliary team are crooked lawyers that will do anything to get what they want. And if had been weeks or months before it was in the media, it would have been proof the biliary team are crooked lawyers that will do anything to get what they want.
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Post by Opti on Jul 5, 2016 20:32:06 GMT -5
What do you mean by OVER? To US conservatives, this is the smoking gun that proves Ms. Clinton is above the law. The investigation might be over, but the issue certainly isn't. For some US conservatives anything is an excuse to believe crazy shit. Because if its about people they don't like, they must be awful. It does make me wonder about the people who believe everything is a cover up and bad bad things are happening only on the other side.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 5, 2016 21:22:29 GMT -5
What do you mean by OVER? To US conservatives, this is the smoking gun that proves Ms. Clinton is above the law. The investigation might be over, but the issue certainly isn't. For some US conservatives anything is an excuse to believe crazy shit. Because if its about people they don't like, they must be awful. It does make me wonder about the people who believe everything is a cover up and bad bad things are happening only on the other side. it's also textbook narcissism. rather than questioning the validity of the first assumption, the conspiracy grows wide enough to enclose it.
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Post by Value Buy on Jul 6, 2016 8:31:30 GMT -5
Director Comey stated there was classified information received and sent by Hillary. He also said anyone sending it to her was high enough up the chain to know it, as was she. He insinuated there is no way she did not know some things were classified that were sent to her, or sent by her to someone else. He also stated her lawyers missed some e-mails that were sensitive in nature, because all they checked was the title of the memo, rather than what was in the message. The lawyers also scrubbed the server after checking e-mails that were not sent to the FBI in a way to make them unretrievable. YOU KNOW, DESTROYING THE EVIDENCE........why destroy private e-mails if they are all about "nothing"? i understand that. but i am not aware of any VERIFIED PROOF that she SENT classified information. is that true? Verified proof? Comey did not have graphs and memos posted or displayed for the public at the news conference. He did state it. 108 (or was it 110) e-mails were sent and received that were marked various classifications of "classified" at the time she had them. If his statement cannot be considered good enough for you, I cannot help you. There was a chain of ten e-mails that were outright ridiculous in compromising security. Comey stated she did not even have security that would match a g-mail account on her server. www.msn.com/en-us/news/factcheckingclinton/clinton%E2%80%99s-handling-of-classified-information/ar-AAi8LlU?li=BBnb7Kz
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What do you mean by OVER? To US conservatives, this is the smoking gun that proves Ms. Clinton is above the law. The investigation might be over, but the issue certainly isn't. really? so, you are saying that this is a deeper conspiracy because of this ruling? seriously? please, no sarcasm, because i really can't tell the difference when it comes to this subject. There's no "deep conspiracy". It's as simple as "Ms. Clinton is above the law". Her actions aren't in dispute; they're a matter of public record. She grossly mishandled sensitive government information, apparently in the same fashion as her predecessors. She received no punishment, with the rationale being that charging her with a crime required proof of ill intent and/or proof of intention to conceal. Forgetting for the moment that Ms. Clinton's detractors (quite reasonably) believe her thorough scrubbing of her e-mail server constitutes intention to conceal, conservative sites are having a heyday pointing out recent indictments filed against government employees guilty of far less malfeasance than Ms. Clinton, as well as the language in the statutes themselves, which clearly don't require "ill intent" or intent of any kind in order for laws to be broken. In short, Ms. Clinton is getting a "pass". We can only conjecture as to why this is. Is it because of who she is, who she knows, the ill effects on the 2016 election if she were to be indicted? Is it because some of her predecessors similarly broke the law and thus prosecuting her would mean filing indictments against others as well? In any case, Ms. Clinton walking away scot free was what most Americans were expecting. Conservatives and Sen. Sanders' supporters were holding out hope that she'd be held accountable, even with a token indictment and fine, something to show that the US isn't a banana republic, but were left wanting. So you tell me: is it OVER? The issue has reached resolution, if that's what you mean.
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