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Post by Tennesseer on May 12, 2016 9:02:06 GMT -5
Should the sound of flip flops in movement determine the appropriateness of them in the workplace? (Is there anthing you can't find on YouTube?)
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 12, 2016 9:52:05 GMT -5
A lifted up her dress to show her shorts underneath, and proudly declared she was wearing them because "Mom says it's not polite to show strangers your butt!" as we stood in the checkout line at Target. Thanks, kid.I hear Gwem her talking to the lady behind me about her wonder woman underwear at JcPenney. I turn around to see her pants down around her ankles. I guess they were too big, she insists they fell down on their own she did not pull them down herself.
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Post by Bonny on May 12, 2016 10:37:27 GMT -5
A lifted up her dress to show her shorts underneath, and proudly declared she was wearing them because "Mom says it's not polite to show strangers your butt!" as we stood in the checkout line at Target. Thanks, kid.I hear Gwem her talking to the lady behind me about her wonder woman underwear at JcPenney. I turn around to see her pants down around her ankles. I guess they were too big, she insists they fell down on their own she did not pull them down herself. One of my favorite underwear stories is when DH and I were at a colleague's party and we found his si year old daughter passed out, butt in the air wearing 7 pairs of underwear.
I looked at the colleague and said "You'll be wishing your child dressed like this when she's a teenager".
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Post by happyhoix on May 12, 2016 11:11:07 GMT -5
A lifted up her dress to show her shorts underneath, and proudly declared she was wearing them because "Mom says it's not polite to show strangers your butt!" as we stood in the checkout line at Target. Thanks, kid.I hear Gwem her talking to the lady behind me about her wonder woman underwear at JcPenney. I turn around to see her pants down around her ankles. I guess they were too big, she insists they fell down on their own she did not pull them down herself. One of my favorite underwear stories is when DH and I were at a colleague's party and we found his si year old daughter passed out, butt in the air wearing 7 pairs of underwear.
I looked at the colleague and said "You'll be wishing your child dressed like this when she's a teenager".
I wonder if she saw some other kid lose her underwear and was paranoid about losing hers? I know my older sister saw that when she was a little kid and from then on she used safety pins to pin her undershirt to her underpants to make sure her panties wouldn't fall down unexpectedly. She used to pin them so tightly the fabric tore. (We found out later that DS has OCD- at the time we just thought she was weird).
Unfortunately as she outgrew her clothes they came to me, so for a while there all my underpants and t-shirts all looked like swiss cheese. Like mice had been gnawing holes in them. Fortunately, I was too young to care what the other girls thought about my holey underwear.
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Post by Tiny on May 12, 2016 14:35:22 GMT -5
Should the sound of flip flops in movement determine the appropriateness of them in the workplace? (Is there anthing you can't find on YouTube?) No, that's the sound of a bored teen meanandering aimlessly in flip flops -- ie impersonating a George Romero Zombie - not, say, a Robert Rodriguez/Tarantino Zombie.
That is NOT the sound of someone actually walking with purpose in flip flops (or cloppy sandals or shoes). I know what flip flops/cloppy sandals/shoes sound like when someone actually walks in them... that is why they are BANNED from the office. The quick "clop clop clop clop clop clop" across the cube farm is almost as insanity invoking as the noise of the Boys banging on Buckets echoing up the office building canyons and reverberating thru the cube farm...
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Post by thyme4change on May 12, 2016 19:19:31 GMT -5
They makes women's skorts. T hey are workout gear / active-wear
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Post by flamingo on May 12, 2016 21:16:03 GMT -5
Should the sound of flip flops in movement determine the appropriateness of them in the workplace? (Is there anthing you can't find on YouTube?) No, that's the sound of a bored teen meanandering aimlessly in flip flops -- ie impersonating a George Romero Zombie - not, say, a Robert Rodriguez/Tarantino Zombie.
That is NOT the sound of someone actually walking with purpose in flip flops (or cloppy sandals or shoes). I know what flip flops/cloppy sandals/shoes sound like when someone actually walks in them... that is why they are BANNED from the office. The quick "clop clop clop clop clop clop" across the cube farm is almost as insanity invoking as the noise of the Boys banging on Buckets echoing up the office building canyons and reverberating thru the cube farm...
OMG-the Bucket Boys are so obnoxious. I'll take the clippity clip of flip flops/sandals/whatever ANY day over the bucket boys playing outside my window. Which they do. Often. Ugh!
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Post by beergut on May 13, 2016 2:35:26 GMT -5
My second week at my current job, I had to have a dress code discussion with my group. One girl wore shirts a size or two too small, so they were always showing her belly. Another thought she could run around barefoot all day because her shoes, which were just SOOOO cute hurt her feet when she walked. And one girl thought that "jeans are ok on friday" meant jean shorts that barely covered her bum were ok all days. Apparently, the person in my position before me was male and didn't think it was appropriate to tell the women in the office how to dress. Uh, it's in the employee handbook, written out, very clearly. So it was easy to pull that out and say, hey guys, my expectation is we follow the employee handbook dress code. Ok? Great, thanks! I don't think it is so much he didn't think it was appropriate as he probably wanted to avoid a sexual harassment claim. If you're a male in an office environment, you pretty much can't comment on anything a woman wears, even if it is just to say, "You look nice today." Someone will be offended and claim you are creating a hostile working environment. Granted, the way to handle that is to have a female manager take the offender aside and say something to her. At a former job at a large well-known investment firm, I used to go hang out at a co-workers desk when it was time to close out. Her cube mate would sometimes wear somewhat low-cut blouses, nothing horrifically inappropriate, but sometimes you would see cleavage. I noticed because I'm a guy, but it wasn't salacious. Fast forward a few months after I left, and co-worker friend tells me cube mate had been promoted. After the promotion, a male manager took her aside in an office and told her she needed to change the way she dresses, because 'he was seeing more of her than he wanted to'. She was mortified!!! I thought it was a completely inappropriate way to handle the situation. The head of the whole department/executive VP was a beloved woman who was pure class, she could have handled the situation without traumatizing cube mate.
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Post by zibazinski on May 13, 2016 6:23:02 GMT -5
My second week at my current job, I had to have a dress code discussion with my group. One girl wore shirts a size or two too small, so they were always showing her belly. Another thought she could run around barefoot all day because her shoes, which were just SOOOO cute hurt her feet when she walked. And one girl thought that "jeans are ok on friday" meant jean shorts that barely covered her bum were ok all days. Apparently, the person in my position before me was male and didn't think it was appropriate to tell the women in the office how to dress. Uh, it's in the employee handbook, written out, very clearly. So it was easy to pull that out and say, hey guys, my expectation is we follow the employee handbook dress code. Ok? Great, thanks! I don't think it is so much he didn't think it was appropriate as he probably wanted to avoid a sexual harassment claim. If you're a male in an office environment, you pretty much can't comment on anything a woman wears, even if it is just to say, "You look nice today." Someone will be offended and claim you are creating a hostile working environment. Granted, the way to handle that is to have a female manager take the offender aside and say something to her. At a former job at a large well-known investment firm, I used to go hang out at a co-workers desk when it was time to close out. Her cube mate would sometimes wear somewhat low-cut blouses, nothing horrifically inappropriate, but sometimes you would see cleavage. I noticed because I'm a guy, but it wasn't salacious. Fast forward a few months after I left, and co-worker friend tells me cube mate had been promoted. After the promotion, a male manager took her aside in an office and told her she needed to change the way she dresses, because 'he was seeing more of her than he wanted to'. She was mortified!!! I thought it was a completely inappropriate way to handle the situation. The head of the whole department/executive VP was a beloved woman who was pure class, she could have handled the situation without traumatizing cube mate. Are people really that stupid that they don't realize they're not dressed appropriately for the job they're doing?
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Post by happyhoix on May 13, 2016 7:02:35 GMT -5
I don't think it is so much he didn't think it was appropriate as he probably wanted to avoid a sexual harassment claim. If you're a male in an office environment, you pretty much can't comment on anything a woman wears, even if it is just to say, "You look nice today." Someone will be offended and claim you are creating a hostile working environment. Granted, the way to handle that is to have a female manager take the offender aside and say something to her. At a former job at a large well-known investment firm, I used to go hang out at a co-workers desk when it was time to close out. Her cube mate would sometimes wear somewhat low-cut blouses, nothing horrifically inappropriate, but sometimes you would see cleavage. I noticed because I'm a guy, but it wasn't salacious. Fast forward a few months after I left, and co-worker friend tells me cube mate had been promoted. After the promotion, a male manager took her aside in an office and told her she needed to change the way she dresses, because 'he was seeing more of her than he wanted to'. She was mortified!!! I thought it was a completely inappropriate way to handle the situation. The head of the whole department/executive VP was a beloved woman who was pure class, she could have handled the situation without traumatizing cube mate. Are people really that stupid that they don't realize they're not dressed appropriately for the job they're doing? I would have to say, from what some of my co-workers wear - yes.
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Post by taz157 on May 13, 2016 7:40:48 GMT -5
Are people really that stupid that they don't realize they're not dressed appropriately for the job they're doing? I would have to say, from what some of my co-workers wear - yes.
Yeah that!
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Post by zibazinski on May 13, 2016 20:19:11 GMT -5
How do these idiots even get hired? I used to throw away applications from people who came in without a pen to fill one out. Like you didn't know there's an application when you apply for a job? You're too stupid to work for me.
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Post by ners on May 13, 2016 20:23:29 GMT -5
Had a luncheon at work. My boss is the director of HR. She made a comment about a worker's yoga pants as not appropriate dress. This worker works in out cafe and is the a dance team coach. I said well maybe when she is coaching the dance team. When I told her about this thread-- flip flops no matter how bedazzled not appropriate.
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Post by andi9899 on May 14, 2016 1:08:37 GMT -5
How do these idiots even get hired? I used to throw away applications from people who came in without a pen to fill one out. Like you didn't know there's an application when you apply for a job? You're too stupid to work for me. People usually come to the interview on their best behavior. You don't find some things out until they are on the payroll.
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Post by violagirl on May 14, 2016 16:12:00 GMT -5
I'm surprised by what some people seem to think is appropriate office wear.
Flip flops are for pool side and in the shower. No matter how glitzy.
Men can never go wrong with a suit. Unless it is your Dad's old suit that is 2 sizes too big. Worth the money to get a few decent suits. I was in Vancouver on vacation with my husband and we were walking in the business district and I think I stopped mid-sentence to watch a snappily dressed fellow make his way down the sidewalk. My husband was amused, but I just think a man in a good suit is so hot. Course doesn't hurt if you have a nice face too.
I don't get women who wear hooker shoes to the office. Heels that high are appropriate at the club. Just no.
Also if, along with your hooker shoes, you are wearing a mid-length coat and it appears you are ONLY wearing a mid-length coat that just covers your butt - you need a longer skirt.
If I can see the thigh control portion of your control top pantyhose - you need a longer skirt.
If you are older than 20 - you need a longer skirt. Not talking floor length. But at least an inch above the knee.
Leggings at the office? No. Which is too bad because leggings are super comfortable.
I have actually never seen indiscriminate cleavage at the office. Everyone at least seems to keep that part under control.
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Post by msventoux on May 14, 2016 16:37:22 GMT -5
I've not seen excess breast cleavage at the office. But I've seen far more butt cleavage from our interns than I ever wanted to see. Some figures are not meant to try to stuff themselves into low-rise skinny jeans!
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Post by mskay on May 14, 2016 21:31:29 GMT -5
I am one of the student government advisors. since the other one is male I get to give the clothing lecture. Skirts must be no more 2 inches above the knee standing up straight with waist of the skirt at your waist. They also can't be see thru or ride up when you sit down. Tops can't be see through or too low cut or so short that we see skin. They all complain that skirts don't come that long where they shop and all the tops are like that at Forever 21, H&M, downtown LA... At least they are generally tactful they could have pointed out that I'm old!!! We usually have to do a few professional dress checks (caught a few boys with dark wash jeans, khakis, sneakers as well) before they miraculously find clothes that are appropriate. For Prom I do have fancy slippers or flip flops as they are called outside of Hawaii. It is possible to walk without making that noise
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Post by beergut on May 15, 2016 0:26:47 GMT -5
I don't think it is so much he didn't think it was appropriate as he probably wanted to avoid a sexual harassment claim. If you're a male in an office environment, you pretty much can't comment on anything a woman wears, even if it is just to say, "You look nice today." Someone will be offended and claim you are creating a hostile working environment. Granted, the way to handle that is to have a female manager take the offender aside and say something to her. At a former job at a large well-known investment firm, I used to go hang out at a co-workers desk when it was time to close out. Her cube mate would sometimes wear somewhat low-cut blouses, nothing horrifically inappropriate, but sometimes you would see cleavage. I noticed because I'm a guy, but it wasn't salacious. Fast forward a few months after I left, and co-worker friend tells me cube mate had been promoted. After the promotion, a male manager took her aside in an office and told her she needed to change the way she dresses, because 'he was seeing more of her than he wanted to'. She was mortified!!! I thought it was a completely inappropriate way to handle the situation. The head of the whole department/executive VP was a beloved woman who was pure class, she could have handled the situation without traumatizing cube mate. Are people really that stupid that they don't realize they're not dressed appropriately for the job they're doing? Her outfits were not inappropriate, she was actually quite stylish. The inappropriate part was having a male address her in that manner. Trust me, if it was inappropriate, I would have said something to my friend, and she would have said something to her. I'm blunt like that.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 12:59:09 GMT -5
I don't work in an office environment or one where we come into contact with customers, but good grief, some of the things we see at work I could do without. They've hired a lot of young people the last few years and a lot of them love leggings. With snug, short shirts. Might as well wear a catsuit. And it sounds mean, but the ones that dress like this are all out of shape. Not curvy or just thick, but it looks like a bunch of flab bulging everywhere because it's stuffed into some too little clothes. It's not cute or flattering at all.
A couple of years ago some supervisors started sending them home, but then they started saying they were being discriminated against and pointing out slimmer women that had on leggings and long shirts that stopped well below their butts, asking why they weren't being sent home. Sheesh, can you not see the difference in how their shirts are big enough that every curve (or bulge) is not on display? And then there are women that wear fitted jeans (like me.... fitted but not tight), and you can see their shape, so what's the difference? Our dress code doesn't specifically ban leggings, but I guess it should since some people just go too far. I guess management had a hard time defining "appropriate" so they left it alone.
Then there was the young lady with the huge (and unfortunately saggy) breasts that came to work without a bra. Her supervisor was appalled but he was afraid to say something to her. One of her female co-workers did and she said all her bras were dirty. Really?!
Shoes aren't an issue. Heels and toes must be covered, no cloth shoes and no heels over 2".
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 16, 2016 9:13:28 GMT -5
Then there was the young lady with the huge (and unfortunately saggy) breasts that came to work without a bra. Her supervisor was appalled but he was afraid to say something to her. One of her female co-workers did and she said all her bras were dirty. Really?!
Should have given her $20 and told her to get herself to Target STAT.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 9:54:10 GMT -5
Then there was the young lady with the huge (and unfortunately saggy) breasts that came to work without a bra. Her supervisor was appalled but he was afraid to say something to her. One of her female co-workers did and she said all her bras were dirty. Really?!
Should have given her $20 and told her to get herself to Target STAT. Unless it reeked of BO or something, nobody would have known her bra needed washing. Everybody definitely knew she didn't have one on. Eeek!
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Post by happyhoix on May 18, 2016 14:56:27 GMT -5
I've not seen excess breast cleavage at the office. But I've seen far more butt cleavage from our interns than I ever wanted to see. Some figures are not meant to try to stuff themselves into low-rise skinny jeans! Took my mom to the doctor's Monday to get a cast on her ankle. Couldn't help but notice that the nice young lady doing the x-rays had on loose doctor's scrubs and thong underwear - bright pink. (Couldn't help but notice because every time she leaned down to rearrange Mom's foot on the stool for the next Xray her thong stayed at her waist while her scrubs slipped down to her hips. letting me see a good two inches of thong.)
Don't want to see that anymore than the loose boxers sticking out of the tops of the saggy jeans some young men like.
Everyone hike up your britches please, and keep them hiked, or wear hip hugger panties, especially if you're in a job that requires a good amount of bending, squatting, etc.
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Post by jitterbug on May 20, 2016 10:23:05 GMT -5
I used to think that flip flops are inappropriate for work - but after shopping for a new pair of dress sandals - that's about the only option available anymore! Or maybe there's a distinction between "flip flops" and "sandals with a thong?" LOL. I walk a lot in my job, so I need flat shoes and I WANT cute sandals with no thong and a strap around the heel...but those are VERY hard to find. Unless I want old lady shoes - which I don't. But based upon what I see in stores - I think dressy flip flops probably ARE appropriate for work these days.
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