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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 19:16:02 GMT -5
So I rent a bedroom from a guy. He rented another bedroom out to another guy. The other guy is a union glazer like me. Pay is ~$33 an hour. This guy is working 5 ten hour days, so 10 hours overtime. When he moved in he asked to borrow $5 so he could get some cigarettes. I only had a twenty and gave that to him. When he came back I told him to wait until pay day to pay me back as I know it sucks to not have any cash. Payday was the next day for him.
That was tuesday. Wednesday I saw him at the union meeting but he didn't come home afterwards. Who knows where he went. Today (Friday) the guy I rent from said he just got off the phone with the broke guy. He went home to Joplin and was asking to borrow $20 for gas so he could come back to Kansas City to work. He wanted the money to be transmitted via Wal-Mart. He told me his paycheck last week, he took home $1200.
I cannot imagine not being able to come up with $20 gas money. He is probably in his 40s.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 19:27:15 GMT -5
Yeah. I know a few people like this. It's mind boggling, especially since I don't make nearly that much with two kids, but usually "hookers and blow" or some variation thereof is the reason behind it.
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Post by obelisk on Apr 15, 2016 20:25:58 GMT -5
Cut your loses and move on. I had a guy ask for $6 for lunch money and he did not offer it back after one year of working together. After 2 times requesting a pay back I gave up and learned my lesson. About a year after the "loan" he was let go. Good riddance and lesson learned.
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Post by toomuchreality on Apr 16, 2016 6:13:48 GMT -5
If it were me, I would need to ask him for the money at least once, in order to feel like I had done all I could/should do, because I am going to be unhappy about this. Esp since it is someone you are likely to run into quite a bit.
Whether he does, or doesn't pay you back, I would think twice three times, before I loaned him money again. No matter what his reason / excuse is, clearly, repaying you was not high on his priority list. (In my opinion it / you should have been at the very top.) -Unless of course, you think his needs are more important than your own.
Good luck!
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Post by NoNamePerson on Apr 16, 2016 6:44:06 GMT -5
Everyone is assuming he doesn't have money to get home. He probably has money in the bank but just gets money from people while he builds up his bank account. Most likely has more money than the people he is "bumming" from and that's why.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Apr 16, 2016 7:36:14 GMT -5
That guy makes more than I do. And I would NOT be giving someone cigarette money.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Apr 16, 2016 7:36:23 GMT -5
He's not poor.
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Post by swamp on Apr 16, 2016 7:45:54 GMT -5
he either drinks, gambles, or has a drug problem.
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Post by gregintenn on Apr 16, 2016 7:47:16 GMT -5
A good income doesn't make one a good money manager.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Apr 16, 2016 7:47:44 GMT -5
Or a baby mama(s) problem.
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Post by 973beachbum on Apr 16, 2016 8:15:03 GMT -5
I was thinking he had child support payments or other garnishments too. I have talked to a few people over the years who make decent money who have at least half removed from their pay checks before they see it. This guy grosses almost a 100K a year though with the OT which sounds like it is all the time. Even by YM standards that is a very good salary. If it isn't hookers and blow maybe he owes the mob?
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Post by Tiny on Apr 16, 2016 9:40:09 GMT -5
I was thinking child support payments or some other garnishments, too. I, too, know a couple of divorced guys who had a lot of their income removed immediately from their paycheck. They earned fairly good money and weren't bumming gas and cigarette money - but they definitely had a lower standard of living than a single guy with their income level and no child support. Both guys spent their 40's paying support. I don't think it's unfair or wrong. I admire the guys for having worked at keeping a relationship with their kids AND continuing to support their family. It kind of sucks that the guy hickle probably won't pay back the $20 (because it looks like the guy has a history of bumming small amounts and seems to be not uncomfortable with it - which means he does it often). It is worth a single reminder - sometimes things do get forgotten OR get remembered in the middle of the night and then forgotten again.
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Post by haapai on Apr 16, 2016 11:07:11 GMT -5
The original post is a bit vague on the details of how long this guy has been renting the other bedroom and how many paychecks have disappeared within days.
Regardless of the reason, the guy doesn't seem to be much of planner. The next time that he tries to borrow, suggest that he securitize the debt. You guys use the same tools right? Certainly he has something that you might find interesting, or valuable, or impossible to work without.
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Post by weltschmerz on Apr 16, 2016 12:16:11 GMT -5
So I rent a bedroom from a guy. He rented another bedroom out to another guy. The other guy is a union glazer like me. Pay is ~$33 an hour. This guy is working 5 ten hour days, so 10 hours overtime. When he moved in he asked to borrow $5 so he could get some cigarettes. I only had a twenty and gave that to him. When he came back I told him to wait until pay day to pay me back as I know it sucks to not have any cash. Payday was the next day for him. That was tuesday. Wednesday I saw him at the union meeting but he didn't come home afterwards. Who knows where he went. Today (Friday) the guy I rent from said he just got off the phone with the broke guy. He went home to Joplin and was asking to borrow $20 for gas so he could come back to Kansas City to work. He wanted the money to be transmitted via Wal-Mart. He told me his paycheck last week, he took home $1200. I cannot imagine not being able to come up with $20 gas money. He is probably in his 40s. You make $33 an hour and you rent a room?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 12:32:11 GMT -5
So I rent a bedroom from a guy. He rented another bedroom out to another guy. The other guy is a union glazer like me. Pay is ~$33 an hour. This guy is working 5 ten hour days, so 10 hours overtime. When he moved in he asked to borrow $5 so he could get some cigarettes. I only had a twenty and gave that to him. When he came back I told him to wait until pay day to pay me back as I know it sucks to not have any cash. Payday was the next day for him. That was tuesday. Wednesday I saw him at the union meeting but he didn't come home afterwards. Who knows where he went. Today (Friday) the guy I rent from said he just got off the phone with the broke guy. He went home to Joplin and was asking to borrow $20 for gas so he could come back to Kansas City to work. He wanted the money to be transmitted via Wal-Mart. He told me his paycheck last week, he took home $1200. I cannot imagine not being able to come up with $20 gas money. He is probably in his 40s. You make $33 an hour and you rent a room? My house is 200 miles away. I make good pay but have to leave home to do it. Pay at home is closers to 17 or 18.
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Post by whoami on Apr 16, 2016 12:47:28 GMT -5
You make $33 an hour and you rent a room? My house is 200 miles away. I make good pay but have to leave home to do it. Pay at home is closers to 17 or 18. I know pilots who make $200K a year and rent a room. They are commuters and are based far enough from home to justify a crash pad. Its not uncommon.
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Post by tskeeter on Apr 16, 2016 14:06:26 GMT -5
So I rent a bedroom from a guy. He rented another bedroom out to another guy. The other guy is a union glazer like me. Pay is ~$33 an hour. This guy is working 5 ten hour days, so 10 hours overtime. When he moved in he asked to borrow $5 so he could get some cigarettes. I only had a twenty and gave that to him. When he came back I told him to wait until pay day to pay me back as I know it sucks to not have any cash. Payday was the next day for him. That was tuesday. Wednesday I saw him at the union meeting but he didn't come home afterwards. Who knows where he went. Today (Friday) the guy I rent from said he just got off the phone with the broke guy. He went home to Joplin and was asking to borrow $20 for gas so he could come back to Kansas City to work. He wanted the money to be transmitted via Wal-Mart. He told me his paycheck last week, he took home $1200. I cannot imagine not being able to come up with $20 gas money. He is probably in his 40s. The blow every buck I get as soon as I get it is more common than many people realize. I used to manage the payroll activity for a manufacturing plant with about 600 hourly employees. Pay day was Thursday. Every Thursday. By Monday morning, it often appeared that more than half of our folks barely had enough cash left to buy lunch. If the gas tank on the car wasn't full on Monday morning, they might have problems getting to work on Thursday to pick up their check.
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Post by tloonya on Apr 16, 2016 14:06:41 GMT -5
Cut your loses and move on. I had a guy ask for $6 for lunch money and he did not offer it back after one year of working together. After 2 times requesting a pay back I gave up and learned my lesson. About a year after the "loan" he was let go. Good riddance and lesson learned. What was the reply? Sorry I don't have it?
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Post by obelisk on Apr 16, 2016 15:59:41 GMT -5
Cut your loses and move on. I had a guy ask for $6 for lunch money and he did not offer it back after one year of working together. After 2 times requesting a pay back I gave up and learned my lesson. About a year after the "loan" he was let go. Good riddance and lesson learned. What was the reply? Sorry I don't have it? He said he would refund me with his new paycheck. I realized that this kind of person has no intention of repaying an agreed upon loan. I made sure that he was not reliable upon work projects to other coworkers. He was let go a year latter. What an idiot to risk his work over 6$. Anyhow there where other signs with his work assignments and deliveries that resulted in his dismissal.
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Post by toomuchreality on Apr 17, 2016 7:28:12 GMT -5
hickle@hickle- Do you have an update?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2016 7:49:25 GMT -5
hickle@hickle- Do you have an update? He's back up here. Not sure where he got gas money. He mentioned he still owed me money and was going to pay. I think he is like me in that he works sporadically . Just travelling to where work is. The way that works in a union is out of town ers get laid off first.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 19:36:48 GMT -5
Another guy I work with We both got switched from company a to company b. When that happened our pay periods changed so that the first week at company B we got a check for 2 days from company A and a check for 1 week at company B. Now that we are being switched back to company A we will get a check for 3 days from company B and no check from company A until next week. The guy is complaining that he will not be able to pay his bills this week because of the change. But we can all work Saturdays for overtime and he usually chooses not to. Saturday work is easy work too. I don't really understand turning down overtime if you are living so close to broke. As many of you know from me posting here for years, not all glazers are that smart though
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Post by toomuchreality on Apr 19, 2016 14:29:31 GMT -5
Another guy I work with We both got switched from company a to company b. When that happened our pay periods changed so that the first week at company B we got a check for 2 days from company A and a check for 1 week at company B. Now that we are being switched back to company A we will get a check for 3 days from company B and no check from company A until next week. The guy is complaining that he will not be able to pay his bills this week because of the change. But we can all work Saturdays for overtime and he usually chooses not to. Saturday work is easy work too. I don't really understand turning down overtime if you are living so close to broke. As many of you know from me posting here for years, not all glazers are that smart thougha Ahh... But you are. That's what's important !
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 15:21:11 GMT -5
Another guy I work with We both got switched from company a to company b. When that happened our pay periods changed so that the first week at company B we got a check for 2 days from company A and a check for 1 week at company B. Now that we are being switched back to company A we will get a check for 3 days from company B and no check from company A until next week. The guy is complaining that he will not be able to pay his bills this week because of the change. But we can all work Saturdays for overtime and he usually chooses not to. Saturday work is easy work too. I don't really understand turning down overtime if you are living so close to broke. As many of you know from me posting here for years, not all glazers are that smart thougha
Ahh... But you are. That's what's important !
And my BIL. The man NEVER turns down weekend work. He's been a glazier for 30-something years and is very rarely without work around here. There have been a couple of periods of downtime for him but not too many.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2016 6:31:10 GMT -5
I got my $20 back this morning :-)
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Post by toomuchreality on Apr 23, 2016 22:58:20 GMT -5
I got my $20 back this morning :-)
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Post by tloonya on Apr 24, 2016 16:55:38 GMT -5
I got my $20 back this morning :-) A liar! Send it to me so I can SEE it with my OWN eyes!!!
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Post by tloonya on Apr 24, 2016 16:56:53 GMT -5
he either drinks, gambles, or has a drug problem. And when he doesn't he pays back... where did you buy your diploma?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 10:06:33 GMT -5
So the guy who can't afford to tag his motorcycle cannot afford to tag his truck. He has a flat this morning and drove several miles on that because he doesn't have a spare.so now he needs to buy amother tire, but wants to buy a used one to save money. I asked why he didn't work overtime yesterday and he said he has sleep apneia and is always tired. We can work 2 hours ot everyday this week.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Apr 26, 2016 10:55:05 GMT -5
Used tires aren't the end of the world if you get them from a reputable seller. I bought used tires in college. However what good is buying tires when you can't register your truck?
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