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Post by wyouser on Mar 18, 2016 16:57:21 GMT -5
My mother's side came from England. Landed in Mass in 1629. My father's side came from SW Germany emigrating to South Dakota in 1892. We can trace my mothers family back to 1424. My father's side can be traced to 1618 (damned French burnt down the city hall that year destroying all prior records) We have contacts with family in Germany. We have been less successful in tracking down any family in England. It is possible, but not certain that my mothers family are also of German descent having emigrated to England from Germany around 1424. The family in Germany are vintners , raising grapes for about 400 years. We got to pick grapes with family in 2003. That was a kick. I'm still fascinated by those vinyards. There are terraces going up each side of the river valley (300 steps to the top) They are all stone with no mortar for drainage. I remember asking a cousin who started all these terraces. I got a quizzical look (like in someone wondering where have you come from?) He replies: "Why , The Romans, in 50 A.D."
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Post by mroped on Mar 18, 2016 17:36:40 GMT -5
That puts time and history in perspective doesn't it?
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Post by mcsangel2 on Mar 18, 2016 18:46:49 GMT -5
My mother's side came from England. Landed in Mass in 1629. My father's side came from SW Germany emigrating to South Dakota in 1892. We can trace my mothers family back to 1424. My father's side can be traced to 1618 (damned French burnt down the city hall that year destroying all prior records) We have contacts with family in Germany. We have been less successful in tracking down any family in England. It is possible, but not certain that my mothers family are also of German descent having emigrated to England from Germany around 1424. The family in Germany are vintners , raising grapes for about 400 years. We got to pick grapes with family in 2003. That was a kick. I'm still fascinated by those vinyards. There are terraces going up each side of the river valley (300 steps to the top) They are all stone with no mortar for drainage. I remember asking a cousin who started all these terraces. I got a quizzical look (like in someone wondering where have you come from?) He replies: "Why , The Romans, in 50 A.D." Bet we're cousins!!!! (see: Mayflower ancestor, also have quite a few others that came to MA in the 1620s-40s).
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Post by Spellbound454 on Mar 18, 2016 18:56:50 GMT -5
I've recently inherited, though intestancy... from a wealthy relative I didn't know I had. It was only 1/99th of that which wasn't willed (because the recipient had died).... but still a tidy sum. Turns out to be quite a famous family of the last century. When I have a minute.... I'm going to find out who these people are and where the link is. Might be quite interesting.
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Post by zibazinski on Mar 18, 2016 21:51:11 GMT -5
I'm nothing. Dad was immigrant. Mom's parents were immigrants. .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 1:32:07 GMT -5
Mine are a bunch of dead people, my parents included. I have been told that we are descended from John Alden who came over on the Mayflower but I have no idea how accurate that is. I am English on my father's side though. Scottish on my mother's. Far as I know they were all a bunch of drunks on her side so no idea whether anyone had any redeeming quality.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 19, 2016 10:19:56 GMT -5
I'm a descendant of John Adams. The son or the father? If one is blood-related to the son, then one is blood-related to the father and vice versa, yes?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 12:06:45 GMT -5
If one is blood-related to the son, then one is blood-related to the father and vice versa, yes? Some things skip a generation of not always.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 19, 2016 12:09:25 GMT -5
If one is blood-related to the son, then one is blood-related to the father and vice versa, yes? Some things skip a generation of not always. But there is no generation skipping between a father and son.
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Post by mcsangel2 on Mar 19, 2016 14:48:59 GMT -5
If one is blood-related to the son, then one is blood-related to the father and vice versa, yes? Not necessarily. John Adams had more than one child.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 19, 2016 15:02:23 GMT -5
If one is blood-related to the son, then one is blood-related to the father and vice versa, yes? Not necessarily. John Adams had more than one child. But any offspring of the other child would be the nephew/niece of John Quincy Adams. Still related.
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Post by mcsangel2 on Mar 19, 2016 23:39:37 GMT -5
Not necessarily. John Adams had more than one child. But any offspring of the other child would be the nephew/niece of John Quincy Adams. Still related. I took the original question to mean direct descent, but yes.
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 20, 2016 1:29:49 GMT -5
M mom's grandfather was the Royal Beekeeper to the Tsar, from a long line of royal beekeepers. Dad's folks were Don Cossacks, which makes me a Don Cossack, as well. My horse died and someone stole my sabre.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 20, 2016 9:04:24 GMT -5
But any offspring of the other child would be the nephew/niece of John Quincy Adams. Still related. I took the original question to mean direct descent, but yes. I am supposedly blood-related (possibly a descendent) to Eleanor of Aquitaine, wife of Henry II of England and King Louis VII of France, and mother of Richard The Lionheart. But only a professional ancestry search could possibly prove that bit of family lore. Even if proven true, it means little in today's world. It won't even get me a free cup of coffee. In the end though, we are all related to each other through earth's first single-cell amoeba.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Mar 20, 2016 11:29:06 GMT -5
Most came over from the British Isles prior to the Rev War. One was a Scot-Irish that was a Lieutenant in NC during the Rev War. Another was a Quaker who didn't serve militarily (because the Quakers were pacifists), but he donated horses and funds and his home was used as a hospital.
Several g-grandfathers served in the Confederrate army; one acually served in a unit formed by the Union to be scouts in Louisiana. He died of chronic diarrhea.
One grest grandmother was a midwife and a "healing woman". She had long red hair. When someone was sick, hey'd send for her; she'd come in a horse drawn wagon, chase all the children outside, take care of the sick person then scrub the house top to bottom. The children were then allowed back inside on,y after a bath. This was related to me by a distant cousin who was a child then. He said she was a little intimidating.
She was a deeply religious Methodist. I'm still searching for herr parents.
My mother's youngest brother was a sailor on the Missouri when the Japanese signed the surrender. It was his job to ferry the VIPs to the ship and back to shore.
Welshmerz, great photo!
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Post by mcsangel2 on Mar 20, 2016 22:20:31 GMT -5
I took the original question to mean direct descent, but yes. I am supposedly blood-related (possibly a descendent) to Eleanor of Aquitaine, wife of Henry II of England and King Louis VII of France, and mother of Richard The Lionheart. But only a professional ancestry search could possibly prove that bit of family lore. Even if proven true, it means little in today's world. It won't even get me a free cup of coffee. In the end though, we are all related to each other through earth's first single-cell amoeba. So am I, but then, 80% of people living today with English ancestry are descended from Edward III (Eleanor of Acquitaine's great-great-great-grandson). It's a neat thing to know, but I try to stress to family members that it would be more impressive if you weren't part of the 80%.
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Post by skubikky on Mar 21, 2016 10:21:48 GMT -5
I think someone named Vinny the Neck and Enzo the Rat. And of course......Tony Bag o' Donuts Louie the Liar and Vito the Vermin....
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Post by tskeeter on Mar 21, 2016 14:17:12 GMT -5
M mom's grandfather was the Royal Beekeeper to the Tsar, from a long line of royal beekeepers. Dad's folks were Don Cossacks, which makes me a Don Cossack, as well. My horse died and someone stole my sabre.
How about the hat? Do you have a big, furry hat?
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 21, 2016 16:25:28 GMT -5
Of course! I have my dad's big furry hat. I don't wear it much, though. When I have it perched jauntily upon my pate, little kids come up to me at the store and say "Hey lady! Is that real fur? That had better not be real fur!!"
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Post by mroped on Mar 21, 2016 16:58:09 GMT -5
That picture is awesome! And those guys, when they got going they scared the hell out of the World. Cossacks were the best horseback wariors of all times. Also they made the Nagant famous. Again, awesome!
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Post by mcsangel2 on Mar 21, 2016 18:09:58 GMT -5
I like your story the best!
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 21, 2016 19:17:17 GMT -5
That picture is awesome! And those guys, when they got going they scared the hell out of the World. Cossacks were the best horseback wariors of all times. Also they made the Nagant famous. Again, awesome! My son was offered a free ride to Cossack school near Moscow by my church. He would study the art of war on horseback. The little $hit refused to go. What a missed opportunity! What a blast it would have been! I wanted to go in his place, but they wouldn't let me.
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Post by tskeeter on Mar 22, 2016 17:24:40 GMT -5
For you amature genealogists, don't limit you research to Ellis Island records. Even though we knew when DW's Grandmother came to the US and that she landed in NYC, she didn't appear in Ellis Island records. We learned that the reason was that she landed at the Port of NY, not Ellis Island. We've been told that only immigrants who were not being met by a friend or family member went through Ellis Island. Since Gram was met by her brother, she disembarked at the Port of NY facility.
Another east coast port of entry was Boston. And lots of folks landed in Quebec, then came to the US. So, a check of border crossing records may include your ancestors.
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Post by kittensaver on Mar 22, 2016 17:57:32 GMT -5
For you amature genealogists, don't limit you research to Ellis Island records. Even though we knew when DW's Grandmother came to the US and that she landed in NYC, she didn't appear in Ellis Island records. We learned that the reason was that she landed at the Port of NY, not Ellis Island. We've been told that only immigrants who were not being met by a friend or family member went through Ellis Island. Since Gram was met by her brother, she disembarked at the Port of NY facility. Another east coast port of entry was Boston. And lots of folks landed in Quebec, then came to the US. So, a check of border crossing records may include your ancestors. Persons particularly of Italian and Irish descent should also check the immigration records from the Port of New Orleans - especially if the ancestors immigrated somewhere between the end of the Civil War and the 1920's.
Many, MANY immigrants came through New Orleans simply because passage to there from Europe was cheaper - sometimes much cheaper - than going to New York. Plus a lot of Southern plantation and business owners advertised heavily in Europe for immigrants after slavery ended. Many offered free passage in exchange for indentured service of usually 2 to 10 years, with a lump-sum payment being made at the end of the indentured period. Many people used this money to move on and start their own businesses.
Many also came through the port and quickly dispersed to other parts of the country - especially pushing into the West with the building of the railroads and other national infrastructure in the post Civil-war expansion years.
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Post by lisamomof4 on Mar 24, 2016 0:39:14 GMT -5
descendant of J.Q. Adams on my mothers side, multiple civil war veterans on both sides....maternal side has been here since the mayflower...various well know and unknown....dad's family is of more recent vintage but he and grandmother were the ones big into this. would have to dig out the papers but he's actually published a few books on the subject and has traced back to the 10th? century...lol...on a funny note one of maternal side was tried as a witch and one of dad's was the judge at said trial
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Post by happyhoix on Mar 24, 2016 7:14:53 GMT -5
Of course! I have my dad's big furry hat. I don't wear it much, though. When I have it perched jauntily upon my pate, little kids come up to me at the store and say "Hey lady! Is that real fur? That had better not be real fur!!" Might make a hell of a lampshade.
Could smell like wet dog when the light is on, though....
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