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Post by Artemis Windsong on Mar 7, 2016 21:51:46 GMT -5
Depends on what state you are in.
In our state, food is not taxed. All other items are including junk foods. Condoms are taxed. Why, oh why, has there not been a public outcry by the men.
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Post by swamp on Mar 7, 2016 21:55:24 GMT -5
They make tampons for men?
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Post by sarcasticgirl on Mar 7, 2016 21:59:12 GMT -5
Depends on what state you are in. In our state, food is not taxed. All other items are including junk foods. Condoms are taxed. Why, oh why, has there not been a public outcry by the men. Women buy condoms too Sent from my SM-G920T using proboards
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Post by Phoenix84 on Mar 7, 2016 21:59:49 GMT -5
They make tampons for men? Not to my knowledge, but the author said she used men's deoderant because it's cheaper, then goes on to say women's hygiene products cost more, and that women spend 1351 dollars more per year than men do for the same products. She called it "gender based pricing." I was asking if any ym females had made substitutions like the author, since we're supposed to be all about saving money.
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Post by justme on Mar 7, 2016 22:16:24 GMT -5
Yes. I routinely buy men's products. My last purchase was a can of men's shaving cream - I get the sensitive ones without the fragrance - it was well over $1 cheaper for more than twice the product. Nearly all my razors are men's because they have more sales and coupons.
I wouldn't necessarily say the tampon tax is sexist - but I think it's crap that they don't tax things like prescriptions, otc drugs, bandages, and incontinence pads but tampons are. It's not like we can decide just not to have a period. Yet people who are clumsy don't pay taxes on their bandaids to catch that blood that spills out of them.
If tampons and pads aren't a necessary item are YOU ok watching women walk around as the bleed through their clothes? Have to pick another chair because a tampon wasn't necessary to keep the blood from soaking through to the chair?
Sorry to be a bit graphic - but seriously, if we've decided not to tax necessary items can one person explain to me why they aren't? Do you as a male want to deal with the women of the world deciding they're a luxury??
Every time one of my guy friends would bitch about something like having to buy condoms I'd start reciting all I've spent that much on birth control pills and tampons and pads. They just stared at me as I asked them if they spent that much on condoms a month.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 7, 2016 22:19:53 GMT -5
If men were able to have a period, tampons would be freely handed out by state and federal governments.
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Post by quince on Mar 7, 2016 22:22:36 GMT -5
Huh. If Depends aren't taxed, tampons shouldn't be.
I do buy razors that aren't pink when I (rarely) shave. Gasp. I don't feel anything wrong with pricing those up, though. If you're going to pay more for pink glitter impregnated plastic, more power to the companies hosing you. Same with deodorant, body wash, etc. If there are viable substitutes that are just packaged/marketed differently, be a discerning consumer.
But tampons? Tampons, menstrual pads, other menstrual solutions- um. I guess I could wear depends instead? (Not, in my opinion, a viable substitute.)
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Post by justme on Mar 7, 2016 22:23:09 GMT -5
At the very least it would cost quite a bit less than the almost $6 for a pack of 18 it costs me!
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Post by resolution on Mar 7, 2016 22:59:36 GMT -5
Paying $4 a year tax on my tampons just isn't a big deal. Then again I don't complain about paying sales tax on food, which is equally necessary.
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Post by justme on Mar 7, 2016 23:00:20 GMT -5
You pay sales tax on food? I don't.
And it's not the cost. It's the absurdity that it's not necessary. If the people that deemed it un-necessary suddenly had a ton of menstruating women who also found them unnecessary in their office I think they would suddenly find them very necessary!
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Post by Phoenix84 on Mar 7, 2016 23:04:24 GMT -5
I can understand the principle of the thing, butt spending just over $4 a year in tax on tampons hardly seems like that big of a deal.
In my state, groceries are taxed, so I wouldn't prioritize tampons over food here.
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Post by taz157 on Mar 7, 2016 23:05:35 GMT -5
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Post by justme on Mar 7, 2016 23:06:35 GMT -5
I can understand the principle of the thing, butt spending just over $4 a year in tax on tampons hardly seems like that big of a deal. In my state, groceries are taxed, so I wouldn't prioritize tampons over food here. Well, your state might not be one of the ones with the "necessary" tax breaks. If states think it's necessary enough not to bleed when you cut yourself that they don't tax bandaids then it should be necessary to stop other bleeding the human body does. Ya know, unless you're OK with all the women you know deciding it's not necessary. I'm sure plenty of employers would deem it necessary!
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Post by Lizard Queen on Mar 7, 2016 23:12:32 GMT -5
Band aids are taxed in my state. Food and services are not.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Mar 7, 2016 23:32:22 GMT -5
I guess it all depends on how you view tampons. Are they medical products, hygiene products?
It's hard to draw comparrisons to other products. Band aids, condoms, body wash, rogain?
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Post by Phoenix84 on Mar 7, 2016 23:39:55 GMT -5
My state is pretty rough on taxes. Not only is food taxed, we have a vehicle property tax.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Mar 8, 2016 0:43:25 GMT -5
It's hard to draw comparrisons to other products. Band aids, condoms, body wash, rogain?
Rogaine? Really?
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Post by quince on Mar 8, 2016 0:49:32 GMT -5
It's EASY to draw comparisons to other products.
Incontinence products.
Both absorb something excreted involuntarily by the body. Bonus: People are embarrassed about the functions involved.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2016 6:59:09 GMT -5
There is a 9-10% sales tax on food and everything else in Alabama. Plus, we have an income tax.
I'm curious, though. If Depends aren't taxed, are diapers for infants?
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Post by Cookies Galore on Mar 8, 2016 7:20:07 GMT -5
Groceries are sales tax exempt in PA, and tampons and pads haven't been taxed here since the early 90s. Makes sense to me. It may "only" be a few dollars a year in sales tax, but they're still necessary health hygiene products. If grandpa can wear an adult diaper and piss his pants tax free, why can't I bleed the same?
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Post by wvugurl26 on Mar 8, 2016 7:24:54 GMT -5
Food and medicine is tax free in MD. I'll have to check the receipt next time for tampons. I have no clue. I know stuff like band aids, vitamins, advil, contact solution isn't taxed.
My favorite part about PA, clothes aren't taxed!!
In my aunt's state of TN, sales tax is high like 10% but there is no state income tax. I could live with that.
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Post by andi9899 on Mar 8, 2016 7:26:27 GMT -5
If men were able to have a period, tampons would be freely handed out by state and federal governments. If men were to have periods, the ER would be full of men experiencing abdominal pain. Then health care costs would skyrocket more than they already have.
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Post by 973beachbum on Mar 8, 2016 8:24:24 GMT -5
I buy plenty of stuff that is marketed for men. I always tell the dry cleaner, when they ask, that my clothes are men's. If it is only the answer to the question that makes my dry cleaning more expensive than I am changing my answer. NJ doesn't tax most food. Tampons and maxi pads aren't taxed along with most OTC stuff. I don't think diapers are either. Nj doesn't tax clothing and for some reason I think they fall in that category. If I was going to pick a discretionary category it would be contact solution stuff. If someone wanted to not buy it they could wear glasses. It would be kind of hard to tell the baby or grandpa to hold it though. The one sales tax that drives me nuts is the one on "prepared food". So if I buy a gc rotisseree chicken it is taxed, but a birthday cake from the GC's bakery isn't.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2016 8:34:52 GMT -5
Not to my knowledge, but the author said she used men's deoderant because it's cheaper, then goes on to say women's hygiene products cost more, and that women spend 1351 dollars more per year than men do for the same products. She called it "gender based pricing." $1351/year MORE? I don't think I spend $1351 total. Actually, I'm sure I don't. That's over $100/month on personal toiletries? Holy crap.
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Post by 973beachbum on Mar 8, 2016 8:38:51 GMT -5
Not to my knowledge, but the author said she used men's deoderant because it's cheaper, then goes on to say women's hygiene products cost more, and that women spend 1351 dollars more per year than men do for the same products. She called it "gender based pricing." $1351/year MORE? I don't think I spend $1351 total. Actually, I'm sure I don't. That's over $100/month on personal toiletries? Holy crap. I think that is the average of everyone for the extra that products that are marketed to women differently than men. So the average extra for razors, shampoo, dry cleaning ect. We probably don't spend that much in a year either and that is for the whole family. But I think you and I are really low maitenance.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Mar 8, 2016 9:11:38 GMT -5
state sales tax regulations are a cluster f*ck of layers upon layers of poorly written regulations full of favors for lobbyists without much reason or thought. Trying to understand them is a lesson in futility.
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Post by teen persuasion on Mar 8, 2016 9:17:28 GMT -5
link The complaint points to guidelines published by the taxation department in 1998 and 2014 that categorize pads and tampons as “general merchandise.” That means they’re not eligible for a “medical supplies” tax exemption.
“There can be only one explanation for the Department’s decision to tax tampons and pads but not Rogaine, dandruff shampoo, foot powder, chapstick, and so many other less medically necessary products also used by men…[these products] are used by women only,” the complaint reads.
It further argues that tampons and sanitary pads indisputably “serve multiple medical purposes. They are not luxury items, but a necessity for women’s health.”
The document also points out that the Federal Food and Drug Administration categorizes feminine hygiene products as “medical devices"The issue is that things like chapstick are exempt from tax as medical supplies, but tampons aren't. Which do you see as more medically necessary, or a luxury?
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Post by MJ2.0 on Mar 8, 2016 9:24:43 GMT -5
are all menstrual products taxed or is it just tampons? Because technically you can live just fine without them. Sure you'd be changing a pad about a zillion times on the heaviest day, but it's totally possible. If they are all taxed, I think that's ridiculous.
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Post by teen persuasion on Mar 8, 2016 9:35:58 GMT -5
At least in NY, tampons AND pads.
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