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Post by raeoflyte on Jun 15, 2022 14:32:32 GMT -5
Fingers crossed!
And follow the askamanager.com advice and don't get sucked in to feeling guilty or helping current employer.
Transitioning to nights is hard enough. Don't add anything else to your plate until that's settled. Does new place have the option to switch to days later on and if so is the money quite a bit less?
Dh worked nights for too long for me to remember. And he'll go back to that when the kids are out of the house. It works for him.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Jun 15, 2022 14:58:32 GMT -5
Ok, fine people of the forum, I need some finger crossing please.
I wasn't job hunting, but..
Background: I used to work with a lady who left to work for Visa. We were friends back then, and we've remained in touch periodically the last 9 yrs since she left. She got a promotion a while back and is now part of the hiring process. Anyway, she contacted me the other day to ask what I thought of one of my current coworkers, who is scheduled to interview with my friend and her boss tomorrow. I gave her my honest opinion - that she's decently knowledgeable but a bit of a whiner. My friend already knew of her and wasn't that impressed as it was so I don't know what will happen there. If she passes the first interview, she would have to then interview with the another team in VA. If they don't like an applicant, they don't get hired.
We were talking about it though, and she suggested I apply. Said that they hadn't had any applicants yet that the VA team liked. So, I updated my resume and went for it. I don't have the primary skill that they're looking for, but she said most don't and they can work with that. They just want someone who has at least some of the other skills they're looking for (I have lots) and who will feel like part of the 'family'. My friend also emailed her boss and told him I'd applied at her request.
I've been in my current position for 17 yrs and it's a dead end. We're not appreciated or paid well. I already know the Visa culture is way different/better. They take care of their people. The salary would be close to double what I make now. Downside is that it's nights and I'd have to work onsite at a location that's about 45 min away. For the increase, though, I can deal with it. Interview skills are rusty, so I'm trying to prep.
I've wanted to work there for a while now, but the one other interview I had years ago was also for nights, at a time when it wouldn't have worked to switch. If I did manage to land this, I'd feel bad for my other day shift coworker though. We only have 1 person per shift and there's no way we'd get someone hired and trained in 2 weeks. That will be hard on her, and I don't know if I could even help part time while they got someone. Still, I can't let that hold me back. An opportunity like this isn't likely to fall in my lap again any time soon. So, anyway, please cross your fingers for me. fingers crossed! It's important for worker to really own that these kind of staffing problems are due to the employer. you didn't make them, you can't fix them, and you can't let them hold you back from better opportunities. Imagine, employers would do it on purpose to keep people! Good luck!
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 15, 2022 15:01:57 GMT -5
Ok, fine people of the forum, I need some finger crossing please.
I wasn't job hunting, but..
Background: I used to work with a lady who left to work for Visa. We were friends back then, and we've remained in touch periodically the last 9 yrs since she left. She got a promotion a while back and is now part of the hiring process. Anyway, she contacted me the other day to ask what I thought of one of my current coworkers, who is scheduled to interview with my friend and her boss tomorrow. I gave her my honest opinion - that she's decently knowledgeable but a bit of a whiner. My friend already knew of her and wasn't that impressed as it was so I don't know what will happen there. If she passes the first interview, she would have to then interview with the another team in VA. If they don't like an applicant, they don't get hired.
We were talking about it though, and she suggested I apply. Said that they hadn't had any applicants yet that the VA team liked. So, I updated my resume and went for it. I don't have the primary skill that they're looking for, but she said most don't and they can work with that. They just want someone who has at least some of the other skills they're looking for (I have lots) and who will feel like part of the 'family'. My friend also emailed her boss and told him I'd applied at her request.
I've been in my current position for 17 yrs and it's a dead end. We're not appreciated or paid well. I already know the Visa culture is way different/better. They take care of their people. The salary would be close to double what I make now. Downside is that it's nights and I'd have to work onsite at a location that's about 45 min away. For the increase, though, I can deal with it. Interview skills are rusty, so I'm trying to prep.
I've wanted to work there for a while now, but the one other interview I had years ago was also for nights, at a time when it wouldn't have worked to switch. If I did manage to land this, I'd feel bad for my other day shift coworker though. We only have 1 person per shift and there's no way we'd get someone hired and trained in 2 weeks. That will be hard on her, and I don't know if I could even help part time while they got someone. Still, I can't let that hold me back. An opportunity like this isn't likely to fall in my lap again any time soon. So, anyway, please cross your fingers for me. As I have had to continously remind myself this is not my problem this is an employer problem. It's always going to be a pain when someone leaves but if a place is properly managed it should be a hiccup in the grand scheme of things. As they like to remind us nobody is irreplaceable. Also your coworker likely would drop you like a hot potato if they got the opportunity so don't hold yourself back out of an overdeveloped sense of duty/obligation.
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 15, 2022 15:25:49 GMT -5
Fingers crossed! And follow the askamanager.com advice and don't get sucked in to feeling guilty or helping current employer. Transitioning to nights is hard enough. Don't add anything else to your plate until that's settled. Does new place have the option to switch to days later on and if so is the money quite a bit less? Dh worked nights for too long for me to remember. And he'll go back to that when the kids are out of the house. It works for him. Yes, as positions open up, the opportunity is there. They have several that are moving to days now, hence hiring for nights. I don't know about a pay difference. She said I'd likely be on nights for at least a year.fingers crossed! It's important for worker to really own that these kind of staffing problems are due to the employer. you didn't make them, you can't fix them, and you can't let them hold you back from better opportunities. Imagine, employers would do it on purpose to keep people! Good luck! In this case, they had to cut because there's not enough workload to justify more than one per shift. The lack of work actually led me to talk to my manager about cross-training on mainframe, which is chronically short. So I've been doing that for a couple of months now. As I have had to continously remind myself this is not my problem this is an employer problem. It's always going to be a pain when someone leaves but if a place is properly managed it should be a hiccup in the grand scheme of things. As they like to remind us nobody is irreplaceable. Also your coworker likely would drop you like a hot potato if they got the opportunity so don't hold yourself back out of an overdeveloped sense of duty/obligation. So true about everyone being replaceable. I'm the longest standing member of my team but it means nothing. And yes, I'm sure anyone else would go without a backward glance, too. I guess I just put myself in the place of my coworker and know how I'd feel not knowing when I'd get my next day off. It's bad enough covering vacations!
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Post by finnime on Jun 15, 2022 15:37:22 GMT -5
This sounds great, moon/Laura. A real opportunity and it sounds like you're ready for such a change. Fingers crossed for you!
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Post by TheOtherMe on Jun 15, 2022 17:52:25 GMT -5
Good luck and I hope you get the position moon/Laura
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Post by NastyWoman on Jun 16, 2022 3:06:20 GMT -5
Good luck Moon - fingers crossed
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Post by moon/Laura on Jun 16, 2022 7:14:31 GMT -5
Thanks, everyone. My friend is on vacation next week (not sure if one week or two) and I'm working my usual 12 hr shift today and tomorrow. So that means it will probably be at least a week until I interview. And that's fine. It gives me more time to prepare, though I'm already working on the typical strengths/weaknesses and questions for them.
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Post by Ava on Jun 17, 2022 11:34:38 GMT -5
Last month, the company informed us that the plan was to return to the office in July. Each manager would decide whether the return would be hybrid (and how many days) or fully in person. Very few units would go fully remote.
Last week my manager informed us that our group will return to the office once a week. He said gas is too expensive, and we can continue working mostly from home. He couldn't give us fully remote because our group wasn't authorized for that. He even let us choose which day a week we want to be in the office, as in, each person can choose the day of the week, regardless of which days the others choose.
Couldn't ask for more and I'm very grateful. The setup of once a week in office is great, my team is great, manager very open and easy going, always willing to talk, very responsive. I get enough vacation time to visit my country of origin each year. Working hours are flexible as long as you put your 8 hours in. Salary is not bad, could be better. Realistically, I could stop working at 55-56 and be perfectly fine financially as long as I move back home. I'm turning 50 this year.
The idea of changing jobs scare me. I feel I'm too old and I don't want the uncertainty and stress, etc. that would come with it. I see a lot of downsides to changing jobs; a bad manager, 5 days in office, bad coworkers, not enough vacation time to travel, having to go in person when it snows, etc. The only upside to a new job would be a higher salary, but I can live and save & invest with what I make. I should get a promotion at some point in time.
Here's the problem I'm dealing with; I'm beyond bored with this job. I've been doing it for years, and I can't find my motivation. All I think about when it's time to clock in is at what time can I clock out. I'm falling behind, I'm slow. I don't know what to do to motivate myself. But I have to find a way to be faster and motivated because I don't want to start somewhere else at this point in my life.
If you'll ever been in a situation like this, how do you motivate yourself? I know, having enough to pay the bills and eat, live indoors, etc. But what else, if anything? I'm trying to focus thinking I don't want to let my manager down because I really appreciate him. Nothing I can think of is enough to find motivation.
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Post by giramomma on Jun 17, 2022 23:48:16 GMT -5
Here's the problem I'm dealing with; I'm beyond bored with this job. I've been doing it for years, and I can't find my motivation. All I think about when it's time to clock in is at what time can I clock out. I'm falling behind, I'm slow. I don't know what to do to motivate myself. I've been at my job for 20 years. I've been bored for 17 of them. It's only been in the past few years that I haven't been bored. Working (quite a bit) at a second job helped. The only way I could have time to work two jobs and be there for the kids is to move quickly through my day job. I used to be able to get my job done in less than 40 hours a week. Since butt in seat time was not valued, no one said anything.
I'm not advocating for working a second job, but to figure out what you really want to do with your time, and reward yourself with doing your dayjob as quickly (but well) that you can. Even with my hobbies and what not, I've never said "No! i want less time to have for the fun things in life!" Also, I had/have put Netflix on the background. I do enjoy rewatching shows: House, Crossing Jordan, etc..and that really helped me.
I've also knit at work (I wasn't the only one in the office...we had a few knitters/crocheters during meetings and what not) and brought other activities in for "brain breaks."
If you get all your work done in 6 hours, and ask for more, and there's no more to be had...I would absolutely do something else while being in front of my computer for a couple of hours while you are working at home. You just need to figure out what that something else is that makes it "worth it" for you to get motivated. I
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Post by Ava on Jun 27, 2022 14:16:23 GMT -5
Doing my job in less than 40 hours a week is not realistic at the moment. We're overwhelmed and always behind. That's not just me, it's the whole group. We have a lot of work to do.
I agree that finding hobbies and interests outside work is the way to go. For a while I thought I would like to have a small baking business. But it's a ton of work, the state where I live has quite a few regulations, and I'm afraid of being sued. I still love to bake and I do it for family and friends. But I need more. One thing I always wanted to do is to write mystery novels. Not to sell them or anything, just to write them. I have a book about how to get started writing mysteries. I may re-read it and give it a go.
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Post by giramomma on Jun 27, 2022 14:22:52 GMT -5
Doing my job in less than 40 hours a week is not realistic at the moment. We're overwhelmed and always behind. That's not just me, it's the whole group. We have a lot of work to do. I agree that finding hobbies and interests outside work is the way to go. For a while I thought I would like to have a small baking business. But it's a ton of work, the state where I live has quite a few regulations, and I'm afraid of being sued. I still love to bake and I do it for family and friends. But I need more. One thing I always wanted to do is to write mystery novels. Not to sell them or anything, just to write them. I have a book about how to get started writing mysteries. I may re-read it and give it a go.That sounds awesome!
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Post by giramomma on Jun 30, 2022 8:16:23 GMT -5
Well, I just turned in my cover letter/resume for a job. With 12 hours to spare. We'll see what happens. This would definitely be a step up, in a direction I want to move in. I hope that I used the right words/etc to get an interview. "Yes, I can manage many spinning plates" is hard to articulate in word. So much easier to talk about in person.
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Post by raeoflyte on Jun 30, 2022 9:27:50 GMT -5
Position at my current job may be going away, but I have a potential move option. I may not have any leverage and it could be a choice of employed or not - but what things do you ask about before making a move? Pay of course Ive covered.
Pto 401k Insurance benefits/coverage Team structure Working @home requirements- camera policies Specific procedures
Anything else?
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Post by jerseygirl on Jun 30, 2022 9:29:43 GMT -5
Position at my current job may be going away, but I have a potential move option. I may not have any leverage and it could be a choice of employed or not - but what things do you ask about before making a move? Pay of course Ive covered. Pto 401k Insurance benefits/coverage Team structure Working @home requirements- camera policies Specific procedures Anything else? Payment of moving expenses Payment for temporary housing (maybe 3 months)
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Post by raeoflyte on Jun 30, 2022 10:13:18 GMT -5
Position at my current job may be going away, but I have a potential move option. I may not have any leverage and it could be a choice of employed or not - but what things do you ask about before making a move? Pay of course Ive covered. Pto 401k Insurance benefits/coverage Team structure Working @home requirements- camera policies Specific procedures Anything else? Payment of moving expenses Payment for temporary housing (maybe 3 months) I worded that badly - I'm not relocating. Just a potential job/company move.
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Post by azucena on Jun 30, 2022 10:25:00 GMT -5
Some way to ask about work/life balance
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Post by giramomma on Jun 30, 2022 11:21:05 GMT -5
Opportunities for growth/advancement
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Post by ners on Jul 1, 2022 6:30:47 GMT -5
I have a job interview this afternoon. First time interviewing in over 11 years. Not feeling properly prepared.
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Post by taz157 on Jul 1, 2022 7:09:53 GMT -5
Good luck ners! You got this!!
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Post by finnime on Jul 1, 2022 7:31:18 GMT -5
You'll be fine, ners. I have a feeling.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 1, 2022 7:40:27 GMT -5
Good luck ners!
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Post by raeoflyte on Jul 1, 2022 9:25:41 GMT -5
Good luck ners! You've got this!
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Post by giramomma on Jul 1, 2022 9:55:02 GMT -5
Good Luck Ners! I'll be thinking about you.
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Post by flamingo on Jul 1, 2022 10:21:55 GMT -5
Good luck, ners! You've got this!
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Post by NastyWoman on Jul 1, 2022 18:51:20 GMT -5
Reading up now - my road trip just ended so I'm a little late - but I hope all went great for you ners
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Post by ners on Jul 1, 2022 20:32:19 GMT -5
Thanks for all the well wishes. I think the interview went well. Need to meet with the HR person next week. HR was out of the office today.
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