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Post by steph08 on Jun 22, 2021 20:49:36 GMT -5
I could use some...thoughts on my current work situation. I might take some advice, too.
Forgive me for how long this is.
I work in a group that reports to an EVP. It features two directors, one of which has two direct reports and one of which has three.
My director was let go at the end of last month. Three people were under him - myself (there for almost five years with 14 years of work experience), another person with the same title (there for five months with similar length of work experience, maybe slightly more involved at previous companies), and another person with a different job description.
We were told the director role would be filled. I waited for the job posting to show up on our website, and it never came. I asked the EVP twice about what this job would involve but did not mention wanting to apply because I wanted to see the description for myself.
I recently found out that the other person with my same job title is moving into the director job. She was informed of an internal job posting when I was not.
I had a meeting with the EVP today to discuss this unexpected move. He said he was "surprised" that I had not applied for the internal job posting. Yet, he never told anyone on our team, including the other director, that this internal posting was live.
He stated that my director was let go because he didn't live up to expectations and "it seemed like you (me) did a lot of the tasks assigned to him" (my husband also told me this a lot). Yet, he did not mention the internal job posting to me nor did he consider me for the position.
This is the position that is the next step for me, and when my director was hired two years ago, I specifically stated to the EVP that that role is on my path.
Some additional background. 1. This will be my fourth boss in four years. 2. The other person with my title and moving into the director position is a friend of the EVP of HR. This person was forced into our group without a hiring process or ability to advertise the role and said they "weren't interested in managing and just wanted to do tasks." 3. I am not sure they will fill the vacated position, adding more work to my plate.
I am right to be livid about this? I just need some outside perspective.
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Post by finnime on Jun 22, 2021 22:42:33 GMT -5
steph08, I'd be angry, too, with both the apparent politics at play here and also with myself. You did not directly state you were interested in being considered for the director's role since your prior supervisor was let go. This may be a company that expects explicit statements of interest for a promotion. Some places are like that. Rather than tapping you they expect you to step forward. It does sound like there's a persistent state of flux, with 4 bosses in 4 years and people being put in positions without a hiring process. It might be best for you to be clear with the EVP what is already on your (full) plate, and that you have ambitions for growth. Don't let yourself be taken for granted. That advice is worth all you paid for it, but it does spring from some experiences I've had. Best to you in unknotting this one.
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Post by alabamagal on Jun 23, 2021 4:42:43 GMT -5
steph08 you have a right to be upset at the situation. But the excuse that you did not apply is just an excuse as to why you did not get the job. At the higher levels of any position, there will be a succession plan for top levels, whether formal or not. With any high level opening at executive level, the executives will make sure that the person that they want applies. Especially since former boss was let go, there definitely would be a person in mind for the job, and it wasn’t you. From your description, this person who got promoted was likely brought in with the goal of moving up to position vacated when your boss was let go. So you need to express displeasure with the situation and then reassess if you want to stay or look for other positions. It sounds like you have done great in your career so far moving up, but the higher you get, the more it is based on politics and there are fewer open positions to move into.
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Post by steph08 on Jun 23, 2021 9:09:58 GMT -5
Thank you, finnime and alabamagal . I just wanted to make sure I wasn't blowing this out of proportion. Also, I feel like I'm being gaslighted (gas-lit?) because "this was never the plan" according to the EVP, but all the evidence points to it being the plan. Oh, and finnime, I am also mad at myself for not specifically asking for it, but I didn't want to show my hand (AKA put out that I was interested before seeing the job description - I was led to believe they were looking for specific experience that I (nor the person who got the job) do not have). I'm in an internal struggle right now as to whether to stay or leave. Pros to staying - job seems secure (now that I'm the only one that's doing it). Good money. Lots of flexibility. Sometimes busy, sometimes not. Good 401k match and due for another 3 days of vacation in October when I hit 5 years. Cons to staying - more work for same pay (I did actually resign 2 years ago and they gave me a 10% raise to stay. this might be a possibility again). Bad optics for me (oh, steph0808 has been here for 5 years and this other person got the director job over her, maybe she isn't great at her job, etc.). I have no respect for my new director or EVP. Will have to report to new director. Maybe EVP of HR has another friend that they want to insert into my department?
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Post by tcu2003 on Jun 23, 2021 11:50:31 GMT -5
That stinks, steph, and I would definitely be upset. I'm possibly projecting here, but I also think you might have fallen into the oft-cited statistic that women only apply for jobs when they are 100% qualified, while men will apply if they are only 60% qualified. It's definitely okay to say you're interested in a job and apply, even if you don't meet all the qualifications.
Related/not related - my company is restructuring, and I'm going to have to apply and interview for the first time in over 14 years (all previous internal promotions/job changes previously have just happened, no applying or interviewing). I'm applying for a couple of positions in 2 different sectors, but both are the same level and I'd apply to the sector executive for either one. I had breakfast with one of the sector executives a couple of weeks ago and made the comment to him that I don't have all of the qualifications listed for the director position I'm applying for (and I'd report to him in one of them, if I was offered it and accepted). He immediately came back and said that didn't matter - he had no doubt I could learn what I didn't know, and I had experience with the items I specifically mentioned at a lower level.
Good luck in your decision! I'd probably at least look, and then decide whether to stay or go based on any offers I got. Or wait to decide until after you talk to your EVP, but it sounds like you might not trust what they have to say.
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Post by giramomma on Jun 23, 2021 13:58:27 GMT -5
I'm sorry Steph. I think Alabama is spot on. They hired the person with the intent to promote as soon as possible. It has nothing to do with you. And whether or not you showed interest in the job probably doesn't factor in. Sometimes, I think we tell ourselves these things because we like to think we have more control/agency over our situation than we actually do.
I think staying or going is personal preference. Do you prefer to deal with the devil you know or the devil you don't? You are going to deal with politics at any job. The upshot is that you now have a concrete datapoint on how politics is played at your workplace. If you are interested in continued growth, and the best way to do that is to play the game, well, then you need to play the game. I'd look around at other places with the intent of playing the game. Use your network. Have lunches and cultivate friendships with the right people. See if you can call on past favors you've extended to folks. Learn if you need to extend favors to others, and then do it.
Otherwise, there's no guarantees that you'll be immune to politics/poor leadership at new places of employment.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 23, 2021 15:59:29 GMT -5
I also think you might have fallen into the oft-cited statistic that women only apply for jobs when they are 100% qualified, while men will apply if they are only 60% qualified. It's definitely okay to say you're interested in a job and apply, even if you don't meet all the qualifications.I would really like to see these studies and data someday. I keep hearing this statistic which is awesome but it doesn't seem to take in unconcious bias. Study after study shows you can send in the exact same resume but when you switch John to Jane suddenly offers plummet. How much of it is men are "leaning in" and how much of it is they have been raised in a society where it's been established that even if they barely qualify the odds are quite high they will still get it simply because they are male? Meanwhile minorities and women tend to be judged harsher by hiring teams for doing the exact same thing. Then as everyone mentioned there are all the internal politics at play. So is it really "my" fault I didn't apply if it was never going to be mine to begin with? Or is that something "they" have sold us so we don't bother to question that the game those who do the hiring are playing goes by a completely different handbook? I question these things more the older I get and the more I remain in the workforce. 2020 especially has caused me to rethink a lot of things.
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Post by steph08 on Jun 23, 2021 21:38:48 GMT -5
Thank you all, I really appreciate the advice and the confirmation that I'm not crazy and this was most likely the plan all along. I just needed to vent.
As I said before, I have survived three directors/bosses already, and I can survive another one. However, I'm done going above and beyond, and I'm not training someone on how to be the director. No more working at night or checking email on weekends.
For now, I sit tight.
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Post by finnime on Jun 23, 2021 21:52:04 GMT -5
Good plan, Steph.
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Post by stillmovingforward on Jun 23, 2021 23:15:26 GMT -5
Drama - I have the study at home. I'm off-site for 3 glorious weeks but I'll try and remember to look for it when I get home. It's so true. I looked my female friends once and we all agreed it was true because we've all done it. My life got much better after I started taking obscene (to me) chances for jobs. I jumped $55,000 in yearly pay in 8 years now and I feel like I work less but make more important decisions.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 24, 2021 11:07:06 GMT -5
Drama - I have the study at home. I'm off-site for 3 glorious weeks but I'll try and remember to look for it when I get home. It's so true. I looked my female friends once and we all agreed it was true because we've all done it. My life got much better after I started taking obscene (to me) chances for jobs. I jumped $55,000 in yearly pay in 8 years now and I feel like I work less but make more important decisions. I am not against leaning in and there are things I have done to serve me better too. That doesn't solve that on a societal level a certain subset of our population has been very comfortable in the knowledge that no matter how mediocre they are 99.9% of the time they will still get the job so there is no risk to applying. Meanwhile there are many many studies showing the exact opposite for women and minorities. I can't know which type of hiring manager I am getting when I apply. However a lot of that could disappear by removing ethnicity, gender/sex and names from applications. Studies also show that when you remove the ability to tell whose resume it is and conduct blind interviews offers for the two other groups go UP dramatically. I object to the idea that the only reason you didn't get the job is that you simply didn't lean in hard enough, act like a man enough, act white enough, act straight enough what have you. It makes it too easy to continue to support the status quo because "well I acted more like a dude when I applied and I got it" nothing to see here. Why should I have to be more like a man to get a job? I get weary of being told "well that's how it is". Okay awesome but why can't we CHANGE? I am sick of hearing that in a lot of areas in life anymore (health care, education, etc). Why do we keep settling for the status quo instead of making things better? We have to acknowledge that employers are playing by different rules and demand that they expose those rules to those of us they want to play their games. I think we are seeing some of that play out right now in retail and serving jobs as people leave them never to return. I am interested to see the continued fall out of 2020 on the employment market. I was reading how previous massive upheavals in history have lead to better conditions for workers such as the rise in unions during the Depression. I wonder what will come of this pandemic?
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 25, 2021 8:16:32 GMT -5
So my dream job popped up yesterday. There is a genetics lab tech position open at the zoo. Probably did not get my resume formatted the best in my rush but I've gotten jobs with worse. I am not all that hopeful I will get it. I know from having interned at the zoo that they strongly prefer to poach people from other zoos which is understandable given how specialized the work they do is. But I would have kicked myself for not applying. This is a unicorn job and the one I have wanted since I was in elementary school and read about the first test tube gorilla. I do have a decent amount of the skills they want. The one I do not have is sequencing because UNMC had a department that did that for you. So we'll see I have my hopes at a realistic level. One potential downside is the zoo doesn't pay crap. It would probably depend on HOW low they go and IDK what they pay their science people may be different than what they pay the zookeepers I worked with. DH said if I got it we'd figure out how to make it work because he's not standing in the way he knows how much it would mean to me. But we still have to be practical.
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Post by stillmovingforward on Jun 26, 2021 10:14:27 GMT -5
Just think about how happy you would be and how that happiness would affect your house hold. That right there is worth figuring out how to live on lower pay!
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Post by jerseygirl on Jun 26, 2021 11:04:41 GMT -5
What fun, to say you work in a ZOO!! and will get paid for it, and seems like an interesting job!!!!
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Post by Opti on Jun 26, 2021 11:07:31 GMT -5
So my dream job popped up yesterday. There is a genetics lab tech position open at the zoo. Probably did not get my resume formatted the best in my rush but I've gotten jobs with worse. I am not all that hopeful I will get it. I know from having interned at the zoo that they strongly prefer to poach people from other zoos which is understandable given how specialized the work they do is. But I would have kicked myself for not applying. This is a unicorn job and the one I have wanted since I was in elementary school and read about the first test tube gorilla. I do have a decent amount of the skills they want. The one I do not have is sequencing because UNMC had a department that did that for you. So we'll see I have my hopes at a realistic level. One potential downside is the zoo doesn't pay crap. It would probably depend on HOW low they go and IDK what they pay their science people may be different than what they pay the zookeepers I worked with. DH said if I got it we'd figure out how to make it work because he's not standing in the way he knows how much it would mean to me. But we still have to be practical. Good luck to you. Since we are still in pandemic conditions, luck might be one your side. I hope you get it. At one time I wanted to be a zookeeper.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 26, 2021 11:17:43 GMT -5
So my dream job popped up yesterday. There is a genetics lab tech position open at the zoo. Probably did not get my resume formatted the best in my rush but I've gotten jobs with worse. I am not all that hopeful I will get it. I know from having interned at the zoo that they strongly prefer to poach people from other zoos which is understandable given how specialized the work they do is. But I would have kicked myself for not applying. This is a unicorn job and the one I have wanted since I was in elementary school and read about the first test tube gorilla. I do have a decent amount of the skills they want. The one I do not have is sequencing because UNMC had a department that did that for you. So we'll see I have my hopes at a realistic level. One potential downside is the zoo doesn't pay crap. It would probably depend on HOW low they go and IDK what they pay their science people may be different than what they pay the zookeepers I worked with. DH said if I got it we'd figure out how to make it work because he's not standing in the way he knows how much it would mean to me. But we still have to be practical. Good luck to you. Since we are still in pandemic conditions, luck might be one your side. I hope you get it. At one time I wanted to be a zookeeper. That's what I'm hoping. Maybe I'd at least get an interview. It does say sequence experience preferred. My other weakness is not a lot of statistics I left academia right as I was starting to dip my toe in. If I get an interview or phone screen I plan on hyping how adaptive I am. I didn't know HPLC. I didn't know flow cytometry. I didn't know microbiology. I learned it all on the job and according to several prospective employers in the past I had some of the most powerful references they'd ever seen. So I am thinking that might count a lot in a market like this. Plus they'll have a lifer. This is a job I'd actually reconsider getting my PhD for. That's getting ahead of myself though. It said it can take two weeks before they start contacting people. Also odds are high they poach from a different zoo. But I still got to apply and that's closer than I've ever been before.
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Post by Ava on Jun 26, 2021 14:28:30 GMT -5
NomoreDramaQ1015I hope they call you for an interview. It would be so great if you get your dream job.
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Post by Ava on Jun 26, 2021 14:39:47 GMT -5
My work has been very demanding lately, and I'm exhausted.
Our company is merging with a bigger entity. I knew it would be difficult to transition, but not this hard. Well, I've never been involved in a situation like this before.
Since there's so much to do for the merger, we're being required to work way beyond 40 hours a week. I'm already working 8.30 to 6 pm. Monday to Friday. I feel like during the week is work, despite not having to commute. I'm supposed to work longer hours, but I am sort of managing for now. I know in the coming weeks I'll have to just do it, and start working earlier, later, or on the weekend. Besides that, there will be layoffs. So that's very concerning.
I have a coworker who started working in our group in 2018. She started at my level and has now been promoted a level above me. I fully understand why she's been promoted ahead of me. She has years and years of experience before working here, and besides she will work however hours it takes. I don't have that in me, I really don't, I get tired after a few hours.
What I see is that it's very difficult to get to that higher level in my group. Only one person before her got it, and it's been 5 years since then. I can't wait 5 years for that level. I am a good worker, good team member, I'm well educated. I have student loans to pay and I'm eligible for the catch up contributions next year. I need a higher level job and more money.
The merger will make our company a huge entity, more than double the size it has now. I want a promotion and a remote job so I can move where I want to live. I need to focus on that after we successfully complete the merger. I also hope I don't become jobless during the merger.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 26, 2021 16:37:05 GMT -5
Got twitchy and checked my application account because I never got a confirmation.
Glad I did there was no application!
That worked out I went back and tooled my resume to add my publications and make sure it still had certain skills on it.
Got an email this time so it's in. We'll see.
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Post by andi9899 on Jun 26, 2021 16:56:59 GMT -5
Fingers crossed, Drama.
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Post by andi9899 on Jun 26, 2021 17:44:54 GMT -5
I had an initial conversation about a position that is a step up from mine. It went well. I have a second one set up for Monday. Pray for me! And let's all hope it's a significant raise!
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I just crushed the second interview. One person has an issue with me being 100% remote. I reminded them that we've all been 100% remote for the last year+ and have all managed to do our jobs. I agreed to travel quarterly. We'll see. If this doesn't work out, I have an internal recruiter looking for me also.
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Post by giramomma on Jul 23, 2021 18:29:34 GMT -5
Well, here's a fun WWYD. Option A job opened up at my institution that I can apply for. The problem, is that it is very likely that interviews will coincide with my surgery. I'm well qualified for the job, so there isn't any reason to believe why I wouldn't get a first interview minimally.
I still don't know what my surgery is going to look like. Everything from a lumpectomy to a double mastectomy is on the table at this point. I also could have other body parts removed, like my ovaries, depending on the results of my genetics tests. Those results will get in a few days before the job application is due. However, I also go back to work within two weeks of giving birth...so..I should likely be able to perform well shortly after surgery. But, there's the optics of that as well too.
Childcare could also be an issue for Option A if there is no remote work option, both finding someone and paying for it. There's also the issue of my current supervisor, who up until a month ago, was my peer with less job experience than I have. She really doesn't have a clue about what I do, because she doesn't pay attention. I'm very transparent about what I'm working on. I have to provide her as a supervisor reference.
Option B I have is networking to try to get in a different area of my institution. There's opportunity as this unit lost a lot of staff. But, no guarantees that we'd get a handshake deal. The job would also have be advertised through normal channels if networking was successful. And if networking is not successful and it gets back to folks in charge at my unit, it would be bad optics for me. I also don't know how long it would take to network...
What would you do in my situation? Applying for the Option A job is sort of a given right now. How do you handle the surgery situation? Do you wait to be contacted for an interview? Go on the offensive and be upfront about what's happening? How do you handle the supervisor situation? I guess I don't have a choice about listing her, but I feel like also needs some context. Would you push on the networking now? Wait?
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Post by finnime on Jul 24, 2021 3:05:15 GMT -5
Good morning, Saturday. That was fast.
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Post by finnime on Jul 24, 2021 3:20:46 GMT -5
Well, here's a fun WWYD. Option A job opened up at my institution that I can apply for. The problem, is that it is very likely that interviews will coincide with my surgery. I'm well qualified for the job, so there isn't any reason to believe why I wouldn't get a first interview minimally.
I still don't know what my surgery is going to look like. Everything from a lumpectomy to a double mastectomy is on the table at this point. I also could have other body parts removed, like my ovaries, depending on the results of my genetics tests. Those results will get in a few days before the job application is due. However, I also go back to work within two weeks of giving birth...so..I should likely be able to perform well shortly after surgery. But, there's the optics of that as well too.
Childcare could also be an issue for Option A if there is no remote work option, both finding someone and paying for it. There's also the issue of my current supervisor, who up until a month ago, was my peer with less job experience than I have. She really doesn't have a clue about what I do, because she doesn't pay attention. I'm very transparent about what I'm working on. I have to provide her as a supervisor reference.
Option B I have is networking to try to get in a different area of my institution. There's opportunity as this unit lost a lot of staff. But, no guarantees that we'd get a handshake deal. The job would also have be advertised through normal channels if networking was successful. And if networking is not successful and it gets back to folks in charge at my unit, it would be bad optics for me. I also don't know how long it would take to network...
What would you do in my situation? Applying for the Option A job is sort of a given right now. How do you handle the surgery situation? Do you wait to be contacted for an interview? Go on the offensive and be upfront about what's happening? How do you handle the supervisor situation? I guess I don't have a choice about listing her, but I feel like also needs some context. Would you push on the networking now? Wait?
I'd go with Option A because it is a natural step to take and seems like it wouldn't cost a lot of time and energy right now, when both are in short supply. But be wide open about needing to schedule around health issues right now. And no, do not expect or set up the expectation in others that two weeks later you'll be up and at 'em. You may be, but you may not be. For the option B, drop this one for now. There will be others. Optics matter and so does your need to conserve your energy and time.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 24, 2021 6:48:39 GMT -5
I'd go with option A if you're going with one now.
Does it have to be your current direct supervisor or A supervisor? I've played loose with that requirement before by picking people who technically supervised me but if you really look wasn't my boss.
He WAS a PI and I was listed on his grant.
I just had to give him a heads up on which one I listed him as cause sometimes he filled the coworker slot.
I wouldn't verbal vomit about the surgery up front. Wait till you get to the possible offer stage. If they want you they will work with you. Bringing it up right out the gate may freak the phone person out. Wait till you get to the person who makes the decision.
My unpopular opinion is unless staying will kill you and/or moving will help make your life easier that at this moment you shouldn't make anymore life changing decisions right now. You have so much on your plate right now.
Applying for option A should be simple so if you must do that. Keep in mind staying at the university means you don't start the clock over on things like benefits and leave which right now is a huge check in the pros column given your health.
Wait on the networking. You can always do that after you are recovered. Now is not the time. You aren't superman and don't need to be.
Birth is one thing. Cancer and surgery is another. PLEASE don't talk yourself into not taking your full 6 to 8 or even 12 weeks. I saw what all that did to my grandpa. There is no job on Earth that deserves you forcing yourself to go back early. Every one would fire you in a hot second if it suited their needs. You look after yours.
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Post by giramomma on Jul 24, 2021 7:53:17 GMT -5
Has to be a current supervisor. First round of interviews will likely co-incide with actual surgery date and/or early recovery. I can't wait to discuss my health until they job offer unless 1) they hire without interviews or 2) they schedule interviews 5ish weeks after the job closes. I think neither is probable.
And, yes, staying will kill me. I'm already not sleeping. No one in my very small team knows what their job actually is now, because of some hiring decisions that were made. Maybe my new supervisor knows what their job entails? The top person forgot that I'd been working on big projects and instead named other people in my department who had nothing to do with my project as being large and in charge. I can deal with a little chaos. Not knowing what you are supposed to do after being at your job for 20 years..and not even being remembered for the work you've done for projects that get campus wide press time. And this is after our team was pitted against each other when the promotion opportunity opened up a month ago.
Sure, my health, but I also think after working for 20 years, I deserve to be in a situation where I can at least manage without crying, stress eating, and being unable to sleep. My self-care go-tos aren't working. I'm not going to get a prize for gutting it out in a situation like that for another 3-5 years. And I've already done my time with staying in a job where I cry for a half hour before going into work.
I also should have clarified networking is also at university. So still benefits and all that. I can't afford to leave at this point. And, frankly, I do see it as the easier option. It's a half hour lunch meeting to plant the seed.
The other upshot is that few positions open up for me. Option A is the first one in at least 3 years.
Sure, I could move into an office admin position for $15-20 an hour. But, we really can't afford for me to have my salary cut in half or 2/3rds at this point. I've joked that I don't make much, but with those kind of cuts, we are talking about living within measures of the federal poverty line. We've talked about DH going full time. But, jobs for him are scarce as well. And having him work full time at an admin position and having me work part time doesn't put us in a better position, either. Having both of us work full time and having to pay for child care doesn't move the needle, either.
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finnime
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Post by finnime on Jul 24, 2021 8:59:27 GMT -5
If Option B at this point only requires a half hour lunch with someone, then that seems worthwhile, at least to get a sense of where things are and are going.
You have earned so much more respect and acknowledgement of your contributions than you are receiving. It seems to me one very important move to make regardless of which you pursue is to list out what you're working on, what your contributions are, and review them with your supervisor. Do that now. You can explain this is to help her get up to speed on some of your activities, because she'll want (of course!) to help you succeed. Your success makes her success.
I wish you were not in this position. THe one thing I truly got failing marks in was politicking. It would have been much better if I was more able in that skill set.
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Post by alabamagal on Jul 24, 2021 17:31:53 GMT -5
giramomma if Option A is the job that you want (without health mattters taken into account, then apply. Don’t worry about when interviews are, that is a HR problem, not yours. If you are unavailable to interview, that is their issue. They should consider all applicants, chose who to interview and schedule interviews. What if you were on 3 week vacation (instead of surgery), they should hold interviews until they can interview all. Their goal should be to chose the best applicant, not who was available on any given week. This surgery is a BIG thing for you to deal with, but you should not let it impact your job (as much as practical). Good luck!
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