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Post by flutterby on Mar 10, 2020 19:29:43 GMT -5
Interview for lateral position at the other agency is next Tuesday. I'm wondering how many of the people interviewing me will be repeats from the one I just did. I'm going to have to think of new examples of my awesome skills I haven't heard anything about last week's interview yet, but I don't expect to for a least a few more days. I did hear from a mutual friend that the woman who interviewed after me (the one with so much more experience) thought she bombed the interview. Sucks for her, and I empathize, but maybe it gives me a better chance.
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Post by andi9899 on Mar 13, 2020 9:14:41 GMT -5
Realizing that I came into a much bigger mess than I thought when I took this job. I'm going to have my work cut out for me to turn this account around. Everyone I'm working with is excited to have me to do so. I'm wondering how long it's going to take.
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Post by cktc on Mar 13, 2020 13:04:52 GMT -5
So I work in travel and I'm waiting for my job to go poof. We have a bit saved and should be able to survive for a little while on DH's salary. Trying to figure out what's next for me.
Any suggestions for programs or certs that are easy for career transitions?
I have a BFA in painting, a BA in Italian, both pretty useless. I have knocked out a lot of beginner science classes two semesters each of Bio, Anatomy, Physics, and Chemistry. Was originally intending to get a masters in physical therapy, but at this point in my life it would take me too long to break even on the program cost.
I currently make 40k, and would like to find something that starts there and has potential up to at least 75k.
Currently considering Diagnostic Medical Sonographer, $12k, 2 year, jobs start at $55k, and employment outlook is good.
Medical coding, cheaper, quicker certs, starts at $20/hour, doesn't appear to have much upward mobility, but outlook is also good.
Then the local university has a 6 month fintech bootcamp. $11k for the program. Finance interests me, tech less so, and I don't know how much a certificate will help with my background, but if I can find a way to market myself, getting into a more traditional business environment is intriguing.
Open to any other ideas. I'm 36 years old and still don't know what I want to do when I grow up.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 13, 2020 21:20:09 GMT -5
Any interest in data management?
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Post by oped on Mar 13, 2020 21:23:38 GMT -5
So I work in travel and I'm waiting for my job to go poof. We have a bit saved and should be able to survive for a little while on DH's salary. Trying to figure out what's next for me. Any suggestions for programs or certs that are easy for career transitions? I have a BFA in painting, a BA in Italian, both pretty useless. I have knocked out a lot of beginner science classes two semesters each of Bio, Anatomy, Physics, and Chemistry. Was originally intending to get a masters in physical therapy, but at this point in my life it would take me too long to break even on the program cost. I currently make 40k, and would like to find something that starts there and has potential up to at least 75k. Currently considering Diagnostic Medical Sonographer, $12k, 2 year, jobs start at $55k, and employment outlook is good. Medical coding, cheaper, quicker certs, starts at $20/hour, doesn't appear to have much upward mobility, but outlook is also good. Then the local university has a 6 month fintech bootcamp. $11k for the program. Finance interests me, tech less so, and I don't know how much a certificate will help with my background, but if I can find a way to market myself, getting into a more traditional business environment is intriguing. Open to any other ideas. I'm 36 years old and still don't know what I want to do when I grow up. Teaching? What state are you in?
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Post by flutterby on Mar 14, 2020 5:25:26 GMT -5
cktc does data analysis interest you? I see so many open positions for that around here, and it pays well.
I'm wondering if my interview that's scheduled for Tuesday will be cancelled or postponed. State agencies are quickly trying to figure out how to get thousands of people transitioned to working from home as soon as possible, so I wouldn't be surprised. I haven't heard anything from the other interview a week ago, which either means I didn't get it and they're busy notifying the person who did, or else they're delaying hiring for now.
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Post by Peace77 on Mar 14, 2020 9:36:41 GMT -5
So I work in travel and I'm waiting for my job to go poof. We have a bit saved and should be able to survive for a little while on DH's salary. Trying to figure out what's next for me. Any suggestions for programs or certs that are easy for career transitions? I have a BFA in painting, a BA in Italian, both pretty useless. I have knocked out a lot of beginner science classes two semesters each of Bio, Anatomy, Physics, and Chemistry. Was originally intending to get a masters in physical therapy, but at this point in my life it would take me too long to break even on the program cost. I currently make 40k, and would like to find something that starts there and has potential up to at least 75k. Currently considering Diagnostic Medical Sonographer, $12k, 2 year, jobs start at $55k, and employment outlook is good. Medical coding, cheaper, quicker certs, starts at $20/hour, doesn't appear to have much upward mobility, but outlook is also good. Then the local university has a 6 month fintech bootcamp. $11k for the program. Finance interests me, tech less so, and I don't know how much a certificate will help with my background, but if I can find a way to market myself, getting into a more traditional business environment is intriguing. Open to any other ideas. I'm 36 years old and still don't know what I want to do when I grow up. What about working for a. museum?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2020 11:33:34 GMT -5
Translation service online?
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 14, 2020 12:42:01 GMT -5
really conflicted about the job I am supposedly to hear from next week on if I got it or not....
Seems like a really bad time to switch employers....but what if current one collapses under economic pressure? Several revenue producing lines are on hold right now - and they weren't doing super-well financially to begin with.
Going to a new employer - that seems a much greater potential for stability finance wise - I am still the last person in if anything happens? The role there is heading up a revenue-producing line that needs some TLC to regain ground so not too at risk I think.
But then there is the wait for LTD and STD to kick in, and waiting on sick leave and vacay balances to grow....
I think if offered, I have to go given #everything# but still very worrying....
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 14, 2020 13:28:11 GMT -5
it could also turn out that the organizations I and other members of my team have interviewed rethink onboarding anyone new at this time....
who knows where it's all going?
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Post by cktc on Mar 14, 2020 22:14:38 GMT -5
Thanks for the ideas! I'll look into data. I'm in AZ. Art/museum jobs interest me, but are very competitive and you have to put in your dues which I've never been able to rationalize. If money wasn't a consideration I'd just paint.
DH thinks medical coding would suit me best. He's probably right. It doesn't excite me, but it does seem a very safe option.
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Post by flutterby on Mar 17, 2020 20:00:54 GMT -5
I didn't get the next level position - not surprised. The woman I know with more experience who interviewed after me didn't get it either, so I'm really not feeling too bummed about this one. I was supposed to have my in-person interview for the lateral position today, but they changed it to a telephone interview. It went really well I think. They still want to have an in-person with the whole panel eventually, but since we'll all be wfh for the foreseeable future, it might be a while before that happens.
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Post by saveinla on Mar 17, 2020 20:09:08 GMT -5
Thanks for the ideas! I'll look into data. I'm in AZ. Art/museum jobs interest me, but are very competitive and you have to put in your dues which I've never been able to rationalize. If money wasn't a consideration I'd just paint. DH thinks medical coding would suit me best. He's probably right. It doesn't excite me, but it does seem a very safe option. If you are interested in Medical Transcription, then dannylion may have some pointers, i think.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2020 20:40:37 GMT -5
I didn't get the next level position - not surprised. The woman I know with more experience who interviewed after me didn't get it either, so I'm really not feeling too bummed about this one. I was supposed to have my in-person interview for the lateral position today, but they changed it to a telephone interview. It went really well I think. They still want to have an in-person with the whole panel eventually, but since we'll all be wfh for the foreseeable future, it might be a while before that happens. Debbie Downer here, but if you have a job now, even if it's one you hate, hang onto it. The near future isn't looking so great for employment, and if you're the new kid on the block you could be the first to go. OTOH, if you don't have a job now, scramble!
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Post by dannylion on Mar 17, 2020 21:04:36 GMT -5
Thanks for the ideas! I'll look into data. I'm in AZ. Art/museum jobs interest me, but are very competitive and you have to put in your dues which I've never been able to rationalize. If money wasn't a consideration I'd just paint. DH thinks medical coding would suit me best. He's probably right. It doesn't excite me, but it does seem a very safe option. If you are interested in Medical Transcription, then dannylion may have some pointers, i think. WRT medical transcription, the only pointer I could offer in good conscience is "don't bother." It's a dying field with more facilities and practitioners opting for voice recognition systems, point-and-click template systems, or just shipping their transcription work overseas where it is done very, very cheaply. There are still jobs for US transcriptionists, but they are mostly editing draft documents created by voice recognition, and the pay keeps getting lower. The few straight typing jobs that are left don't pay very well anymore, either. In my opinion, it is just not worth the time and money it would require to get the necessary training in transcription now. A lot of community colleges that used to have robust transcription programs don't even teach it any more because the job prospects are so limited, and the only online schools still teaching it are the less reputable ones. The reputable ones don't even offer it anymore. The field is shrinking, so newbies are having to compete for jobs with experienced transcriptionists, who probably have an easier time passing the employment skills tests. Everyone gets the same pay, so there is no cost advantage in hiring less experienced people. I fully expect my own little part-time transcription job to go poof at any time. If it does, I won't be looking for another one as it really isn't worth it. Medical coding could be a good option if you were able to get a job with a large facility that employs its own coders. It is my understanding that there are not a lot of work-at-home coding jobs, but that might be changing (I don't know for sure). If it's something that can be done remotely, though, it's likely going to go the way of transcription and end up shipped overseas for cost reasons. There again, training will require time and money. I have no idea what the pay scale is for coding, though I am pretty sure it's better than for transcription. Coding isn't dead yet and there are probably good opportunities to be found with a little persistence, but those jobs are going to require training. Nobody offers on-the-job training anymore. Sorry to be a Debbie Downer, but the production element of medical documentation is not particularly lucrative anymore.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Mar 17, 2020 21:06:57 GMT -5
My mom did transcription. You are right it's a dying field.
The dictation was outsourced first. Her favorite was "Q as in Cuba"
Ok...She had to stop and think about that one.🤣
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Post by CCL on Mar 17, 2020 21:52:47 GMT -5
Thanks for the ideas! I'll look into data. I'm in AZ. Art/museum jobs interest me, but are very competitive and you have to put in your dues which I've never been able to rationalize. If money wasn't a consideration I'd just paint. DH thinks medical coding would suit me best. He's probably right. It doesn't excite me, but it does seem a very safe option. It can be tough to get into unless you have experience. Check out this website for more info: ahima.org and this one: chiim.org
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Post by cktc on Mar 18, 2020 11:55:27 GMT -5
If you are interested in Medical Transcription, then dannylion may have some pointers, i think. WRT medical transcription, the only pointer I could offer in good conscience is "don't bother." It's a dying field with more facilities and practitioners opting for voice recognition systems, point-and-click template systems, or just shipping their transcription work overseas where it is done very, very cheaply. There are still jobs for US transcriptionists, but they are mostly editing draft documents created by voice recognition, and the pay keeps getting lower. The few straight typing jobs that are left don't pay very well anymore, either. In my opinion, it is just not worth the time and money it would require to get the necessary training in transcription now. A lot of community colleges that used to have robust transcription programs don't even teach it any more because the job prospects are so limited, and the only online schools still teaching it are the less reputable ones. The reputable ones don't even offer it anymore. The field is shrinking, so newbies are having to compete for jobs with experienced transcriptionists, who probably have an easier time passing the employment skills tests. Everyone gets the same pay, so there is no cost advantage in hiring less experienced people. I fully expect my own little part-time transcription job to go poof at any time. If it does, I won't be looking for another one as it really isn't worth it. Medical coding could be a good option if you were able to get a job with a large facility that employs its own coders. It is my understanding that there are not a lot of work-at-home coding jobs, but that might be changing (I don't know for sure). If it's something that can be done remotely, though, it's likely going to go the way of transcription and end up shipped overseas for cost reasons. There again, training will require time and money. I have no idea what the pay scale is for coding, though I am pretty sure it's better than for transcription. Coding isn't dead yet and there are probably good opportunities to be found with a little persistence, but those jobs are going to require training. Nobody offers on-the-job training anymore. Sorry to be a Debbie Downer, but the production element of medical documentation is not particularly lucrative anymore. Thank you! I saw that medical transcriptionist jobs are declining, medical coding has an 11% growth outlook according to Bureau of Labor and Statistics. Median pay is $40k. I do wonder how changes to healthcare industry would impact that. In Canada they make $55k, but UK is only 20k GBP. If I get additional certificates in cardiac or interventional radiology that would open more doors. Either way its probably more security than my current industry. I am skeptical about work from home after researching though. My sister's hospital has WFH options, she is the one that suggested this, but from what I've read elsewhere that is generally only for experienced medical coders. My boss wants me to stay. I'd like to pursue this as a backup, but if I can't find a part-time or WFH, it would be hard to get experience and keep the credentials relevant.
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Post by dannylion on Mar 18, 2020 13:53:19 GMT -5
WRT medical transcription, the only pointer I could offer in good conscience is "don't bother." It's a dying field with more facilities and practitioners opting for voice recognition systems, point-and-click template systems, or just shipping their transcription work overseas where it is done very, very cheaply. There are still jobs for US transcriptionists, but they are mostly editing draft documents created by voice recognition, and the pay keeps getting lower. The few straight typing jobs that are left don't pay very well anymore, either. In my opinion, it is just not worth the time and money it would require to get the necessary training in transcription now. A lot of community colleges that used to have robust transcription programs don't even teach it any more because the job prospects are so limited, and the only online schools still teaching it are the less reputable ones. The reputable ones don't even offer it anymore. The field is shrinking, so newbies are having to compete for jobs with experienced transcriptionists, who probably have an easier time passing the employment skills tests. Everyone gets the same pay, so there is no cost advantage in hiring less experienced people. I fully expect my own little part-time transcription job to go poof at any time. If it does, I won't be looking for another one as it really isn't worth it. Medical coding could be a good option if you were able to get a job with a large facility that employs its own coders. It is my understanding that there are not a lot of work-at-home coding jobs, but that might be changing (I don't know for sure). If it's something that can be done remotely, though, it's likely going to go the way of transcription and end up shipped overseas for cost reasons. There again, training will require time and money. I have no idea what the pay scale is for coding, though I am pretty sure it's better than for transcription. Coding isn't dead yet and there are probably good opportunities to be found with a little persistence, but those jobs are going to require training. Nobody offers on-the-job training anymore. Sorry to be a Debbie Downer, but the production element of medical documentation is not particularly lucrative anymore. Thank you! I saw that medical transcriptionist jobs are declining, medical coding has an 11% growth outlook according to Bureau of Labor and Statistics. Median pay is $40k. I do wonder how changes to healthcare industry would impact that. In Canada they make $55k, but UK is only 20k GBP. If I get additional certificates in cardiac or interventional radiology that would open more doors. Either way its probably more security than my current industry. I am skeptical about work from home after researching though. My sister's hospital has WFH options, she is the one that suggested this, but from what I've read elsewhere that is generally only for experienced medical coders. My boss wants me to stay. I'd like to pursue this as a backup, but if I can't find a part-time or WFH, it would be hard to get experience and keep the credentials relevant. Your idea to pursue other certifications in addition to coding sounds like a good one. This is why I think people interested in coding should seek employment with large facilities and work on site. If they decide to outsource or otherwise eliminate coding positions, there is the possibility that other training or employment opportunities would be made available to the coders. Already having one or more additional skills would likely be of significant benefit in that situation. The hospitals I am familiar with in the US generally offer opportunities to employees already on board to move into other areas or jobs they might be qualified for and many even offer training to allow people to move into better paying jobs. The coders who are really vulnerable when their jobs go away are those in small practices or working as contractors. In the small medical practice for which I do transcription, the doctors dictate the billing codes themselves in their notes, so they do not employ any coders at all. Having more than one skill in any field is probably going to be of benefit to anyone in the future.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Mar 18, 2020 17:28:43 GMT -5
There was a local part time job I applied for some years ago while I was caring for my mother. I didn't get it, and today I found out who did. Big article on local newspaper site any how she embezzled $50k from them. They didn't notice because she did her own payroll. Schadenfreude, anyone? Just a little, anyway.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 21, 2020 10:25:30 GMT -5
OK - so the job I was kind of interested in, I think I posted that the other/more senior person got the offer? Not sure if I posted that here or not.
Anyway - so nearly a week later she hadn't accepted it, but said she needed to make a decision and I haven't heard since. I'm kind of thinking she is going to turn them down.
Given the global and US situation, if they extend an offer to me, and I think that is getting iffy with the CV19 situation around us, I think I will also turn it down. I think I would have almost certainly accepted if offered it a week ago - but life isn't the same is it?
Aside from needing to team up remotely in this bewildering environs, STD and LTD don't kick in for 6 months. No rights to FMLA. I would start with no sick or vacation time, and accrue it monthly. It would take 18 months to get to my current sick bank, and 6-7 months for vacation and comp day balances to get to where I am now.
I have banked 5.5 weeks of sick, vacay, and comp time. Then i would start with 0. I would get paid out for about 2.5 weeks of that on leaving. sick time is not paid out. But even then - that isn't really the same as being able to take time if needed.
On the job security front - likely the new job is long-term more secure. But that is just a probability. The CV19 situation is likely going to lengthen the transition timeline at current employer.
Right now, my goal is to have an income for the next year - and be protected in case I get really sick, or a family member needs me. I do have symptoms, including lungs. So does son. We are dosing on a multitude of herbals and remain with mild symptoms. Mom (96) is isolated alone and doing ok. Luckily sibling and partner are symptom free and able to assist with her if need. She is getting deliveries for supplies.
So - if other person does turn down and I get the offer - I've determined to turn it down. It would have been about a 5% pay decrease - but an increase in 401k and time off.
I thought of potentially negotiating on the STD and LTD, but that seems odd, and may not even be possible. It just seems safer to stay put. At least for the short term. I would tell them I'd love to reconsider at another time. Is that reasonable?
Other perspectives?
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Post by debthaven on Mar 21, 2020 10:40:34 GMT -5
The current job is a sinking ship, no? I'd try to negotiate, including for a later start date.
Are you sure it's not just because you're upset that it wasn't offered to you first? I don't think that's a good reason.
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Post by jerseygirl on Mar 21, 2020 11:26:32 GMT -5
Yes why not negotiate, nothing to lose
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 21, 2020 11:44:57 GMT -5
The current job is a sinking ship, no? I'd try to negotiate, including for a later start date.
Are you sure it's not just because you're upset that it wasn't offered to you first? I don't think that's a good reason.
No, good point, but I'm over that! I am ever-so-slightly scared shitless right now. I and DS have lung symptoms, DS has hx of asthma, my mom is 96. I guess it's a good thing she is living alone right now!!! I have heard that big boss is pushing to secure a deal for us with future vendor so that we all have a job on an ongoing basis. I also heard that the someone higher up at the vendor working in my area - someone that would be a big piece of outsourcing our work there - just resigned. So - I don't feel insecure about continuing income for the next 12 months. Or - no more insecure than anyone else during these unprecedented times. I am very concerned about needing to take moderately large to extensive time off for myself or a family member.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 21, 2020 12:10:20 GMT -5
Yes why not negotiate, nothing to lose I'm not sure exactly what would make me feel secure? could they do STD and LTD immediately? - maybe it could only be for anything covid-related? guarantee FMLA eligibility? upgrade me to start with 1 years' sick balance and start accruing normally after that? push for same salary I have now? If I got all that, then perhaps this is doable.
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Post by tcu2003 on Mar 21, 2020 13:38:44 GMT -5
For sure, negotiate salary.
As someone else suggested, negotiate a later start date. And ask for the other stuff - the answer is always no if you don’t ask.
My company has put all hiring on hold right now, so if they do something similar, that works in your favor as you can extend making a decision if you get an offer.
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Post by debthaven on Mar 21, 2020 14:29:39 GMT -5
The situation at your current job does sound better than it did before ... but I would still look into it.
RE your mom ... is your brother still available/unemployed?
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 21, 2020 19:05:42 GMT -5
he is available but is employed and moved out of the city.
who really knows what may occur at any employer right now. All a crap shoot really.
Realizing this week that RI projects may dry up too!!! Have one project been working on - want to finish that up and send the bill quickly....
Been working on that all day today. Was trying to learn enough r to code out for a repetitive report - loads of bar charts, finally gave up and doing it in a mail merge with word and excel. Putting a table in the word doc and then doing the barchart for each table iteration by hand throughout the report. I couldn't get excel to put the chart into a cell to merge it in, it was always floating out side - also couldn't set up an excel table in word to take the mail merged fields.
So need to insert and format over 70 bar charts, takes about 5 minutes per page to format and make sure it looks good. Will then need to convert to pdf and proof very carefully.
I felt like I was getting close with rmarkdown, but I've put in about 20 hours this week on learning r and wasn't sure I was close to being able to do it. I think I was but need to deliver this on Monday. And - work the day job Monday too.
Still a grind for me! But make hay while the sun shines and all. Could all be poof tomorrow...
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 22, 2020 14:49:20 GMT -5
I was hoping any had any hints on how to do those more easily but I guess not. finished report generating and proofing. sent. dancing around kitchen because I am done with work at 2:30! If I can keep diligent on the next deliverable - I may get a day off next weekend .
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 23, 2020 14:20:17 GMT -5
ok - my contact decided to accept the job - so I'll never know if I was a close second or not!!
I do have another lead - someone asked someone if they knew anyone and my name was put forward. Don't know anything about it as yet but said to please forward my number along.
I suddenly have a sore throat out of nowhere. Kind of scared.
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