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Post by MJ2.0 on Jan 10, 2016 13:08:47 GMT -5
It's rainy outside and all I have on the agenda today is laundry and grocery shopping. I wanna wear my raincoat, sweatshirt, leggings and boots. Is that acceptable or do I need to wear real pants?
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Post by andi9899 on Jan 10, 2016 14:23:05 GMT -5
Not if you're going to Walmart. You might actually be overdressed.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Jan 10, 2016 16:27:06 GMT -5
It's rainy outside and all I have on the agenda today is laundry and grocery shopping. I wanna wear my raincoat, sweatshirt, leggings and boots. Is that acceptable or do I need to wear real pants? Fixed
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2016 10:38:13 GMT -5
If you think the store closings were due to wage increases you aren't understanding the situation very well.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Jan 15, 2016 10:42:49 GMT -5
I know we have at least one of the smaller WM here. Maybe they can place those employee at one of the other 12 to 15 WM we have county wide.If that one closes folks can drive less ha half mile to super Walmart down the road.
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 15, 2016 10:44:02 GMT -5
I know we have at least one of the smaller WM here. Maybe they can place those employee at one of the other 12 to 15 WM we have county wide.If that one closes folks can drive less ha half mile to super Walmart down the road. I hope that happens. But that means there will be no new hires in the area for awhile.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2016 10:46:49 GMT -5
Send those people here! DAMN WE NEED EMPLOYEES SO BAD!!! <MPL is coming in again this weekend>
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 15, 2016 10:47:53 GMT -5
If you think the store closings were due to wage increases you aren't understanding the situation very well. I understand the situation quite well. The stores were under performing or not making ENOUGH money to satisfy the corporate headquarters. They are not a charity where they employ people for the heck of it. While not in the article, WMT pharmacies are struggling with Obamacare payout on prescriptions at near and below cost for WMT, destroying profit margins.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2016 10:55:44 GMT -5
You mean that more people are insured and so fewer of them are paying out of pocket rates?
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 15, 2016 14:59:14 GMT -5
If you think the store closings were due to wage increases you aren't understanding the situation very well. I understand the situation quite well. The stores were under performing or not making ENOUGH money to satisfy the corporate headquarters. They are not a charity where they employ people for the heck of it. While not in the article, WMT pharmacies are struggling with Obamacare payout on prescriptions at near and below cost for WMT, destroying profit margins.
So, you want the poor and seniors to pay more for their medicine, so one of the wealthiest companies on earth can make more money?
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Post by NoNamePerson on Jan 16, 2016 8:57:34 GMT -5
I read where they said some stores closing were ones within 10 miles of each other. If that's the case half of them here should be closing. We have two Neighborhood Markets practically sitting on top of each other and a Publix across the street from one and a Publix just down the street from the other one. But according to that map not one is closing. Must be doing OK?? Can you tell, we have WM's up the wazoo!!
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jan 16, 2016 9:18:01 GMT -5
I'm fairly certain the super center closing in WV might be the only grocery store in that county. The southern counties are especially rural with few shopping options.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Jan 16, 2016 9:24:18 GMT -5
I'm fairly certain the super center closing in WV might be the only grocery store in that county. The southern counties are especially rural with few shopping options. And that is a shame. Have to wonder if other grocery stores might be afraid to chance it if a WM can't make it. I'm not a WM shopper but I do realize that it may be the only option in some really small rural places.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 9:52:09 GMT -5
If you think the store closings were due to wage increases you aren't understanding the situation very well. I understand the situation quite well. The stores were under performing or not making ENOUGH money to satisfy the corporate headquarters. They are not a charity where they employ people for the heck of it. While not in the article, WMT pharmacies are struggling with Obamacare payout on prescriptions at near and below cost for WMT, destroying profit margins. Very few pharmacies make large profits from their pharmacy. They make it from the other stuff that people buy when they get in the store. That's why there's often a pharmacy in regular grocery stores like Publix and Winn Dixie. I like Walmart ok for a basic grocery store (we buy most veggies and meat at Publix), but I hate it as a pharmacy. Ours have no drive-thrus. So there you are, sick, and you have to park a half-mile away and walk through an enormous store. Even healthy, it is a pain to pick up prescriptions. Meanwhile, Walgreens (and CVS although I don't use them) have drive-thru pick-up. If I do go in, parking is easy and the store is small. I can still buy whatever extras my sick self decides it needs like ice cream, kleenex, or chicken soup. I'll pay a fortune for them, but it is a much better set-up than the Walmart pharmacy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 11:39:20 GMT -5
I'm fairly certain the super center closing in WV might be the only grocery store in that county. The southern counties are especially rural with few shopping options. I bet there used to be shopping options before Wally World ran them out of business. I hope this is an opportunity for local entrepreneurs.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 12:05:07 GMT -5
I'm fairly certain the super center closing in WV might be the only grocery store in that county. The southern counties are especially rural with few shopping options. I'm actually surprised a Super center would open up in a place like this. You still have to have the people to support it. In Southern MN there there are a lot of very rural areas with towns less than 1000 people spread 20 miles or more apart, and small town grocery stores are everywhere. Walmarts are 40-50 miles apart so more of a once a month trip kind of thing instead of a weekly shopping store.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jan 16, 2016 12:37:57 GMT -5
I'm fairly certain the super center closing in WV might be the only grocery store in that county. The southern counties are especially rural with few shopping options. I bet there used to be shopping options before Wally World ran them out of business. I hope this is an opportunity for local entrepreneurs. There weren't other options decently priced. When Walmart moving in brings the most fresh produce options there are problems. I've been down there, they haven't had anything since the heyday of coal. I looked and 70% of kids qualify for free lunch and another 12% for reduced price lunch. Maybe in other places this isn't true but in many parts of WV unless you watch sales weekly, the grocery stores are much more expensive than Walmart. Some things are worth paying for but others there is no reason to pay more for an identical product.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jan 16, 2016 12:57:29 GMT -5
I'm fairly certain the super center closing in WV might be the only grocery store in that county. The southern counties are especially rural with few shopping options. I bet there used to be shopping options before Wally World ran them out of business. I hope this is an opportunity for local entrepreneurs. Again, in a poor rural area where prices are high, why do you think that this is a good thing? You can afford to support paying 25% more for a bottle of cough syrup, but for many paying an extra $1 (realize it is $1 for cough syrup, 0.50 for deodorant, $1.50 for milk, etc.) but by the end of a weekly shopping trip, it is another $10. $10/week is peanuts to you, but for many it is not.
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Post by wvugurl26 on Jan 16, 2016 13:23:45 GMT -5
I bet there used to be shopping options before Wally World ran them out of business. I hope this is an opportunity for local entrepreneurs. Again, in a poor rural area where prices are high, why do you think that this is a good thing? You can afford to support paying 25% more for a bottle of cough syrup, but for many paying an extra $1 (realize it is $1 for cough syrup, 0.50 for deodorant, $1.50 for milk, etc.) but by the end of a weekly shopping trip, it is another $10. $10/week is peanuts to you, but for many it is not. All of this!! And it's hard to shop weekly sales when the store is a hour one way.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jan 16, 2016 13:36:25 GMT -5
Again, in a poor rural area where prices are high, why do you think that this is a good thing? You can afford to support paying 25% more for a bottle of cough syrup, but for many paying an extra $1 (realize it is $1 for cough syrup, 0.50 for deodorant, $1.50 for milk, etc.) but by the end of a weekly shopping trip, it is another $10. $10/week is peanuts to you, but for many it is not. All of this!! And it's hard to shop weekly sales when the store is a hour one way. Yep.....Saturday morning, the rural areas in KY used to drive into Lexington and hit Walmart. It was worth the haul (including paying for gas) to avoid paying a premium on groceries at those smaller stores. I remember when I lived in Boston and I was limited to the single grocery store because I could walk there. Because the store was in downtown Boston, I had to pay a premium for groceries. During the summer, it was easier because I could take the T to the farmer's market and fill up my backpack with fresh fruits and veggies. But during the fall and winter, the market shut down and my grocery bill went up considerably. Back then, I did not have the extra money and I had to shop incredibly carefully. For instance, I never bought fresh bread, I found a local bakery that steeply discounted the previous days bread and bagels and bought that instead. I can't ever remember buying meat that was not in the discount bin. If it wasn't there, I didn't buy it. Unless you have been on the other side, I don't think that you understand that while those local, independent grocers, pharmacies, etc. are good for the community, if you are poor you simply cannot afford to support those prices. When it comes to needing that last $5 to put gas in your car or pay the electric bill, then it DOES become an issue.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 13:43:15 GMT -5
What's getting really big around here is the gas station convenience stores. They are small, but EVERYWHERE and the Kwik Trips here are such a huge company now that they can afford to sell cheaply, some things are really cheap. I go to the gas station for all our milk and butter, bananas, onions, potatoes, eggs (if we didn't have chickens), bread, even meat is cheaper here than at the grocery stores. And it's so easy to stop and pick something up and be out in a minute or two.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jan 16, 2016 13:48:40 GMT -5
What's getting really big around here is the gas station convenience stores. They are small, but EVERYWHERE and the Kwik Trips here are such a huge company now that they can afford to sell cheaply, some things are really cheap. I go to the gas station for all our milk and butter, bananas, onions, potatoes, eggs (if we didn't have chickens), bread, even meat is cheaper here than at the grocery stores. And it's so easy to stop and pick something up and be out in a minute or two. Can you send them up here? We have one that we hit occasionally for milk. It's about half the distance into town and if we want to make a quick trip to pick up milk, we hit that and pay the premium. But the cost is $$$, I think we pay $4/gallon rather than $2.50. I feel bad for the people who live downtown without a car. The grocery stores need a car to get to if you live there and I went into one next to the butcher (also pricey) to pick up some meat. I figured I'd pick up milk and the meat at one stop. I bypassed, as I had problems paying $5 for a HALF gallon of milk that expired in a day! I probably would have paid the $5 for a gallon of milk, if it had a decent expiration date, but even though I was going to pay $16/lb for some steaks, I wasn't about to pay 4x normal the amount for milk.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 13:57:47 GMT -5
What's getting really big around here is the gas station convenience stores. They are small, but EVERYWHERE and the Kwik Trips here are such a huge company now that they can afford to sell cheaply, some things are really cheap. I go to the gas station for all our milk and butter, bananas, onions, potatoes, eggs (if we didn't have chickens), bread, even meat is cheaper here than at the grocery stores. And it's so easy to stop and pick something up and be out in a minute or two. Can you send them up here? We have one that we hit occasionally for milk. It's about half the distance into town and if we want to make a quick trip to pick up milk, we hit that and pay the premium. But the cost is $$$, I think we pay $4/gallon rather than $2.50. I feel bad for the people who live downtown without a car. The grocery stores need a car to get to if you live there and I went into one next to the butcher (also pricey) to pick up some meat. I figured I'd pick up milk and the meat at one stop. I bypassed, as I had problems paying $5 for a HALF gallon of milk that expired in a day! I probably would have paid the $5 for a gallon of milk, if it had a decent expiration date, but even though I was going to pay $16/lb for some steaks, I wasn't about to pay 4x normal the amount for milk. They're spreading like the plague, but WA is pretty far away! Here milk at Walmart is $4/gallon and $2.50 at the gas station. Of course, the gas stations only have a have a handful of things. They also have hot food ready to go that is cheaper than the fast food places.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 13:58:49 GMT -5
Unless you have been on the other side, I don't think that you understand that while those local, independent grocers, pharmacies, etc. are good for the community, if you are poor you simply cannot afford to support those prices. When it comes to needing that last $5 to put gas in your car or pay the electric bill, then it DOES become an issue. When I was a college student, I was a vegetarian, I didn't own a car, I made my own yogurt and I kept my grocery bill to $5/week. OK, so it was the mid-1970s. I had a portable carrier that held enough bags of groceries to last me a week and I walked to the grocery store. I bought produce reduced for quick sale (and still do when I can find it). I realize this is impractical for a single mother with 3 kids, but I wanted to make the point that I don't live on steak and champagne and know how to pinch a penny till it squeals. To get back to the OT- how did poor people get by before Wal-Mart? Maybe in the 1960s snack food and bottled water weren't part of everyday life, and you didn't need a styrofoam cup full of mini-Oreos in the car cup holder for each kid before you pulled the car out of the driveway.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 14:06:31 GMT -5
To get back to the OT- how did poor people get by before Wal-Mart? Maybe in the 1960s snack food and bottled water weren't part of everyday life, and you didn't need a styrofoam cup full of mini-Oreos in the car cup holder for each kid before you pulled the car out of the driveway. I grew up pretty poor in the 70's and our fridge and pantry didn't look anything like my fridge and pantry now. My Mom would make up a batch of tuna pasta salad and fill an ice cream bucket with it and there would be that and a gallon of milk and maybe some orange juice in the fridge. I remember having that tuna salad for days on end. There was usually cereal in the pantry for breakfast, but for the most part pretty empty. No snacks at all. Yogurt was a treat that she got a couple times a month. Her boyfriend hunted so there would be awesome <cough> dinners with squirrel and rabbit and deer (well...venison is pretty good). Lots of casseroles and PB&J!
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jan 16, 2016 14:58:49 GMT -5
To get back to the OT- how did poor people get by before Wal-Mart? Maybe in the 1960s snack food and bottled water weren't part of everyday life, and you didn't need a styrofoam cup full of mini-Oreos in the car cup holder for each kid before you pulled the car out of the driveway.
Why do you assume that snack food is all that Walmart sells?
How did poor people get by? When I was on an incredibly limited budget, I simply did not buy snack food, bottled water or any sort of treats (even those <gasp> sold by grocery stores). I seem to remember Twinkies and Coke being sold at my local Shop and Save in Boston.
What I did was I bought a lower quality food. I bought a lot more generics and dealt with the fact that they (sometimes) were not as good as the name brand. I don't ever remember having a bottle of Heinz ketchup or Hellmans mayo in the fridge. I bought cheap cheese, cheap cold cuts (baloney rather than shaved, oven roasted turkey), I bought over ripe bananas and veggies past their prime. I bought food ready to expire, or stale dated. I bought strictly from sales and loss leaders. I bought the smallest amount of an item (even though many times it was cheaper to buy the larger size per oz).
I remember when things got bad in Boston. I had a cat who had FUS and I could not use just any cat food on the market or he would wind up back at the vet needing to be catheterized again. Rather than pay 0.12/can of cat food, I had to buy a bag of cat food from the vet for $7. But paying $6 for the vet's food meant that I wasn't paying a $40 vet bill. That hurt, so I scrimped more.
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Post by Robert not Bobby on Jan 16, 2016 15:04:21 GMT -5
Too many Walmarts...they are 10 minutes driving time to each other in my area.
Yeah, I'll admit it. I shop at Walmart for some basic stuff. They still have great prices, but Amazon is going to kick their butt, eventually.
And the world keeps on changing...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 15:39:42 GMT -5
Why do you assume that snack food is all that Walmart sells? I guess I didn't make my point well. Thirty years ago the average family grocery cart contained mostly produce, meat, a few canned goods and maybe a frozen pizza and some ice cream. Now, the grocery budget seems to have expanded to.include bottled water, endless snacks, individual sizes of everything and a lot more processed foods- flavored yogurt, sweetened cereal, bottled ice tea, etc. I'm very familiar with the type of careful shopping you describe- been there, done that, minus the cat. Still do, in fact. We freeze all the fibrous parts of veggies and make broth. Last week we went to a potluck and I brought bread. I made it. No bread machine. And yes, my local grocery sells junk food and I know Wal-Mart sells produce.
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