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Post by daisy on Sept 29, 2015 10:07:04 GMT -5
Background: I left a full time position back in March to start my own company. The job was changing my hours to 12 hour shifts and I am long past those days so it was a good time to focus on my own business. It is now up and running by itself (soap and bath products, website/wholesale accounts etc) so I am looking to return to another job since we want to fully fund our retirement, retire and focus on my business full time. Anyway - I have applied for a couple of jobs, had one interview and an offer that I accepted but will not start until October 19. I received a call yesterday morning from another company requesting a phone interview so I went ahead and did the interview. The interviewer and I hit it off well, I was on a roll with all of the canned answers to canned questions and she wanted to schedule an in-person interview ASAP. Unfortunately on her end, ASAP was next Monday. I really, really, really like the sound of this particular position. It is working with hospice/palliative care patients (I have spent 8 years in ICU so this is nothing new to me) and she mentioned that the office has a great team who get along well, members of the team step up to help each other out with swapping days, they have pot luck lunches, etc. My dilemma is such: I have officially accepted the other position, I am going in for a TB test today; I meet with HR and Employee Health on Thursday to get paperwork rolling and I am going for hospital orientation on the 19th. BUT, I am also planning to go to the interview on the 5th to see if I would prefer to work for the other company. The position I accepted is in a University hospital - the other is a home health company. The University is paying me about $2k less than I had wanted - the HH company will pay me a bit over that additional $2k. I have an ethical dilemma here - do I proceed as I am and hope the HH company offers me the position? I plan to ask their hiring timeframe when I interview and if it's beyond the 19th, then obviously I can't take the job if they offer it to me because I will have started at the University.....and I don't know how quickly they will work on references and the background check. There will be 2 weeks between my HH interview and my hospital start date......HELP!
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 29, 2015 10:12:04 GMT -5
Until a job offer letter is extended to you, and you sign it in return, you can pretty much do what you wish. Even then, after a signing a job offer letter, you can still later decline to start working.
You don't want a reputation though within the industry of accepting job offers and then going to work for another company. Word gets passed around. So be careful.
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Post by moneymaven on Sept 29, 2015 10:54:57 GMT -5
Yes, proceed with the process for the job you want! You must look out for yourself here. I might suggest that you advise HH that you have another offer on the table, but their position is your preferred option.
In the event that you do go with HH, I would tactfully and professionally explain another offer was presented. I personally would also offer to reimburse any expenses up until that point that they expended contingent on my hiring, though others may disagree.
ETA: congrats on your business and good luck!
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Post by Tiny on Sept 29, 2015 11:04:17 GMT -5
I think you should continue to explore the second job opportunity... I'd just try to do it quickly - you don't want to be choosing between the two the night before you are scheduled to start the job you accepted. Don't get overwhelmed by the 'feast or famine' aspect of this. Have you really placed the Pros and Cons of both jobs next to each other? Commute, time commitment, costs you'll pay out of pocket (healthcare? something else specific to your field?) costs your new employer may pay (healthcare? retirement match or offer a pension? any sort of pre-tax perks - like being able to pay some of your transit expenses with pretax $$)? Time off? is it 9-5? or shifts? you get the idea. This probably isn't about the 2K in 'extra' salary - the job that offers the lower income may actually 'net' you more... If you were just starting out - I'd probably advise to go for the higher salary (since that MAY play a part in how much $$ you make over your lifetime) - but it sounds like you are somewhere in the 'middle' of your work life and have a good plan going forward. I'd concern what perks/benefits each job offers and compare it that way. yeah, it's nice to "love" your job and to be able to say you've got your 'dream' job - but sometimes the 'cost' of that is very high. I know this is NOT your dream job... just kind of reminding you of that - to help keep reason and rationality even with emotion for this decision. FWIW: you can describe just about any job this way: Also, remember you hit it off with someone from HR - you may never talk to that person again.
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Post by daisy on Sept 29, 2015 11:37:35 GMT -5
Thanks everyone for the advice - I had a page typed with responses and it went away. So I'm off right now for the TB test and when I return I will respond to what everyone has said and add some more about the job at the U which is making me rethink that position.
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Post by NastyWoman on Sept 29, 2015 13:05:53 GMT -5
Also, don't forget that employers have known to extend a job offer only to rescind it before the applicant even has started when that works out better for them ( corporate says "cut heads" -> newby is out). And then there is the probational period that many companies have for new emplyees. There seem to be endless ways that loyalty is perceived as a one-way street. So moral of the story: companies need to look out for number one (the company) and employees need to look out for themselves. Just be very careful how you tell the hospital if you decide not to go there after all and tell them bubkes until you have the other job in hand.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 13:40:03 GMT -5
Background: I left a full time position back in March to start my own company. The job was changing my hours to 12 hour shifts and I am long past those days so it was a good time to focus on my own business. It is now up and running by itself (soap and bath products, website/wholesale accounts etc) so I am looking to return to another job since we want to fully fund our retirement, retire and focus on my business full time. Anyway - I have applied for a couple of jobs, had one interview and an offer that I accepted but will not start until October 19. I received a call yesterday morning from another company requesting a phone interview so I went ahead and did the interview. The interviewer and I hit it off well, I was on a roll with all of the canned answers to canned questions and she wanted to schedule an in-person interview ASAP. Unfortunately on her end, ASAP was next Monday. I really, really, really like the sound of this particular position. It is working with hospice/palliative care patients (I have spent 8 years in ICU so this is nothing new to me) and she mentioned that the office has a great team who get along well, members of the team step up to help each other out with swapping days, they have pot luck lunches, etc. My dilemma is such: I have officially accepted the other position, I am going in for a TB test today; I meet with HR and Employee Health on Thursday to get paperwork rolling and I am going for hospital orientation on the 19th. BUT, I am also planning to go to the interview on the 5th to see if I would prefer to work for the other company. The position I accepted is in a University hospital - the other is a home health company. The University is paying me about $2k less than I had wanted - the HH company will pay me a bit over that additional $2k. I have an ethical dilemma here - do I proceed as I am and hope the HH company offers me the position? I plan to ask their hiring timeframe when I interview and if it's beyond the 19th, then obviously I can't take the job if they offer it to me because I will have started at the University.....and I don't know how quickly they will work on references and the background check. There will be 2 weeks between my HH interview and my hospital start date......HELP! No advice but congrats on the soap\ bath business. I want to be you someday. Love your avatar pic also.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 29, 2015 13:42:09 GMT -5
I've done it. I got a part time job offer at UNMC and had the paperwork in hand. Creighton called me offering me a full time job. The obvious choice was Creighton.
It happens all the time, that is why there is a probation period for most jobs. It's a time for them to try you out but also for YOU to try them out.
The company wouldn't think twice if they needed to rescind the offer. The only person who is going to look out for you is you. If the second job offer is more to your liking and better pay then take it.
FWIW I was able to get hired at UNMC a couple years later just fine.
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Post by The Captain on Sept 29, 2015 13:50:57 GMT -5
And now the voice of dissent...
By the time a job offer is extended (and accepted) the employer has put a good chunk of time into filling the position. Once we have an offer accepted, we let the other candidates know that we extended the job to someone else. It's only fair not to keep them hanging for too long.
When someone then changes their mind, the recruiting process usually starts at square one (as the second and third choice candidate will rarely take the offer, no one likes to know they were not the first choice).
This puts the hiring manager in a really shitty spot. They are already behind because they have an open position to fill, and now they are going to become further behind because you are going back on your word. Sorry if it sounds harsh, but that's how I look at it.
Those names/resumes go into a file. I will never again extend an offer to anyone who's accepted, then changed their mind later on.
I work in a field with a relatively small community. Word does get around. If that's not the case in your instance then you should be ok. However, I wanted to present a differing opinion.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 29, 2015 15:37:03 GMT -5
When someone then changes their mind, the recruiting process usually starts at square one (as the second and third choice candidate will rarely take the offer, no one likes to know they were not the first choice).
Really? I find that odd personally, who cares if you weren't the first choice for a job?
If I need a job or want a new one I really am not going to care if I was first/second or third. I'd jump right now if the VA called me and told me that secretary wasn't working out. I wanted that job BAD and still do to be honest.
I'm still looking now. I took a $3k pay cut taking this job and lucky it'll last two years.
Yeah I would feel guilty about leaving after only being here a few months but I have to do what is best for myself/my family. I can afford to be pickier now that I have this job but at the time I accepted I couldn't sit around hoping a better offer would come thru, the clock was ticking and this was the only one out of I don't even want to count how many jobs between January and June that extended an offer.
If that clinical coordinator job had come thru or the cytogenetic job had come thru at the time I accepted this offer I would have turned this one down.
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Post by The Captain on Sept 29, 2015 15:51:51 GMT -5
When someone then changes their mind, the recruiting process usually starts at square one (as the second and third choice candidate will rarely take the offer, no one likes to know they were not the first choice).
Really? I find that odd personally, who cares if you weren't the first choice for a job?
If I need a job or want a new one I really am not going to care if I was first/second or third. I'd jump right now if the VA called me and told me that secretary wasn't working out. I wanted that job BAD and still do to be honest. It may have something to do with the fact that my field has always been in demand. It is fairly common for candidates to be interviewing for several positions and to have more than one offer come in simultaneously. The second and third choices know they won't have to wait too long for another offer. I've also lost my first choice candidate because another company offered first. Recruiting in my area is cut-throat. There are fewer and fewer younger people going into the profession, and those that do tend to switch paths by the time they hit senior level. It's very hard to hire with experience. There's a huge cohort that is going to retire from the IRS in the next 5-8 years. I do not look forward to what service levels will be as they try to fill those spots.
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Post by garion2003 on Sept 29, 2015 16:00:28 GMT -5
I think you should continue to explore the second job opportunity... I'd just try to do it quickly - you don't want to be choosing between the two the night before you are scheduled to start the job you accepted. Don't get overwhelmed by the 'feast or famine' aspect of this. Have you really placed the Pros and Cons of both jobs next to each other? Commute, time commitment, costs you'll pay out of pocket (healthcare? something else specific to your field?) costs your new employer may pay (healthcare? retirement match or offer a pension? any sort of pre-tax perks - like being able to pay some of your transit expenses with pretax $$)? Time off? is it 9-5? or shifts? you get the idea. This probably isn't about the 2K in 'extra' salary - the job that offers the lower income may actually 'net' you more... If you were just starting out - I'd probably advise to go for the higher salary (since that MAY play a part in how much $$ you make over your lifetime) - but it sounds like you are somewhere in the 'middle' of your work life and have a good plan going forward. I'd concern what perks/benefits each job offers and compare it that way. yeah, it's nice to "love" your job and to be able to say you've got your 'dream' job - but sometimes the 'cost' of that is very high. I know this is NOT your dream job... just kind of reminding you of that - to help keep reason and rationality even with emotion for this decision. FWIW: you can describe just about any job this way: Also, remember you hit it off with someone from HR - you may never talk to that person again. Yeah, HR always says that stuff. They usually have no idea what goes on in terms of day to day office politics
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Post by daisy on Sept 29, 2015 18:02:57 GMT -5
Ok lots of good discussion points here - my DH and I are both of the opinion that I have to do what works for me, but I grew up Catholic and the idea of saying, "Yes, I accept your offer" and then "Oooops, something better came along sorry" doesn't sit well with me. I feel guilty for days when I forget to say thank you or other really minor infractions. But that's me and I do believe that since I am the one who is going to sit at the job for at least the next three years I need to really like it which is why I am considering the other position. I understand that the U would be upset with me and probably blackball me. They aren't the only game in town though and quite honestly I want the job to work out so well that I stay for years and years, so I really need it to be comfortable there. Again, retirement to work full time for my company is only about 3 years away for us. I would enjoy the work there at the U and I absolutely hit it off with the manager and director so I'm good with going with this position. The other company sounds very inviting and yes, I know about the HR person saying things about the dept that might not be true, but she mentioned the pot-luck thing with envy so I can imagine that it's true - plus I've worked in healthcare for many years and we DO throw spontaneous pot-lucks all of the time. I'm glad to hear that most everyone thinks that I'm on the right track with just letting it hang until I interview at least. The Captain - I hear what you are saying but this is entry level and I'm sure they have a vast pool of applicants who don't mind being 2nd, 3rd or even 10th choice. They offered me less than I wanted and it was knee-jerk to say, "yes", and now I'm having second thoughts with the other interview and knowing they will start me above my minimum requirements. Thanks all - I will report back after the other interview with my feelings going forward.
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Post by daisy on Sept 29, 2015 18:12:39 GMT -5
Background: I left a full time position back in March to start my own company. The job was changing my hours to 12 hour shifts and I am long past those days so it was a good time to focus on my own business. It is now up and running by itself (soap and bath products, website/wholesale accounts etc) so I am looking to return to another job since we want to fully fund our retirement, retire and focus on my business full time. Anyway - I have applied for a couple of jobs, had one interview and an offer that I accepted but will not start until October 19. I received a call yesterday morning from another company requesting a phone interview so I went ahead and did the interview. The interviewer and I hit it off well, I was on a roll with all of the canned answers to canned questions and she wanted to schedule an in-person interview ASAP. Unfortunately on her end, ASAP was next Monday. I really, really, really like the sound of this particular position. It is working with hospice/palliative care patients (I have spent 8 years in ICU so this is nothing new to me) and she mentioned that the office has a great team who get along well, members of the team step up to help each other out with swapping days, they have pot luck lunches, etc. My dilemma is such: I have officially accepted the other position, I am going in for a TB test today; I meet with HR and Employee Health on Thursday to get paperwork rolling and I am going for hospital orientation on the 19th. BUT, I am also planning to go to the interview on the 5th to see if I would prefer to work for the other company. The position I accepted is in a University hospital - the other is a home health company. The University is paying me about $2k less than I had wanted - the HH company will pay me a bit over that additional $2k. I have an ethical dilemma here - do I proceed as I am and hope the HH company offers me the position? I plan to ask their hiring timeframe when I interview and if it's beyond the 19th, then obviously I can't take the job if they offer it to me because I will have started at the University.....and I don't know how quickly they will work on references and the background check. There will be 2 weeks between my HH interview and my hospital start date......HELP! No advice but congrats on the soap\ bath business. I want to be you someday. Love your avatar pic also. Thank you - I have a spectacular mentor who has been in the business for 15 years and makes more with her business than she does at her full-time university position. I'm having a great time doing something I love - but DH and I have made retirement the way we want a priority; he's retired public service but he's gone back to work also. My avatar is the pond in our back yard; it was actually taken several years ago when we had some flooding, it's not usually that full but it's deep enough to run a row boat around and for the dogs to swim in. If you ever want information or advice on soap making or the bath business, feel free to ask! I wholly believe in sharing what I've learned with anyone who is interested. My mentor says that there's more than enough dirty bodies to go around for all of us who make soap!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 3:27:52 GMT -5
No advice but congrats on the soap\ bath business. I want to be you someday. Love your avatar pic also. Thank you - I have a spectacular mentor who has been in the business for 15 years and makes more with her business than she does at her full-time university position. I'm having a great time doing something I love - but DH and I have made retirement the way we want a priority; he's retired public service but he's gone back to work also. My avatar is the pond in our back yard; it was actually taken several years ago when we had some flooding, it's not usually that full but it's deep enough to run a row boat around and for the dogs to swim in. If you ever want information or advice on soap making or the bath business, feel free to ask! I wholly believe in sharing what I've learned with anyone who is interested. My mentor says that there's more than enough dirty bodies to go around for all of us who make soap!Wow. Thank you! I'm completely addicted to making soap. Someday, probably after retirement I would love to sell some. Right now I trade and sell to only close friends and family and I donate the leftovers. I'm clueless about the business end , not sure I could ever make a profit, and worry a little that maybe it would make it less fun for me if I felt like I had to do it. So in the meantime I just keep making it. I have no soap mentors. I learned from a youtube video. I have talked to some soap makers at the farmers markets but I don't ask many question as I don't know how much info they are willing to share and don't want to be nosy. I have learned a lot from the forums. I will pm you one of these days if you don't mind. Everyone I know gets tired of me talking about soap all the time. I'm excited for you for taking the leap and glad to her it's going well for you.
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Post by Anne_in_VA on Sept 30, 2015 9:28:13 GMT -5
Daisy, I'd love to learn how to make soap and bath stuff like you! I've never seen bth stuff like yours at any of the craft fairs around here. Many of the local churches have a bazaar during the year and I'll bet something would sell really well.
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Post by NastyWoman on Sept 30, 2015 13:09:29 GMT -5
paging steph08 She may be interested in exchanging some ideas.
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Post by daisy on Sept 30, 2015 19:40:33 GMT -5
you make your own soap? Interesting! Yep for almost a year now - it's not 'hard' per se, but dang, it can get expensive quickly! As a hobby, it's probably not too bad, but as a business with all of the associated state fees, insurance, market fees - you really have to make a profit quickly or it becomes a black hole. My DH washes his hands constantly and showers due to the smoke he works in as a fire instructor; a year ago we were going thru hand lotion and hand cream for him constantly. Not a drop of it this year and we both attribute it to losing the chemicals found in 'soap'. Handmade soap is all oils mixed with lye (which goes through a process called saponification and becomes inert) and he has become my best salesperson! Don't get me started or this thread will become a tutorial on soapmaking and the benefits of handmade soap, laundry soap etc!
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Post by daisy on Sept 30, 2015 19:46:15 GMT -5
Daisy, I'd love to learn how to make soap and bath stuff like you! I've never seen bth stuff like yours at any of the craft fairs around here. Many of the local churches have a bazaar during the year and I'll bet something would sell really well. Have we met? Did you find me through my avatar? I just realized yesterday that my old avatar is actually my soap company logo so I changed it here. I answered your PM and I'd love to help you get started making soap - the world needs more homemade soap converts!!!!
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Post by daisy on Sept 30, 2015 19:52:33 GMT -5
Wow. Thank you! I'm completely addicted to making soap. Someday, probably after retirement I would love to sell some. Right now I trade and sell to only close friends and family and I donate the leftovers. I'm clueless about the business end , not sure I could ever make a profit, and worry a little that maybe it would make it less fun for me if I felt like I had to do it. So in the meantime I just keep making it. I have no soap mentors. I learned from a youtube video. I have talked to some soap makers at the farmers markets but I don't ask many question as I don't know how much info they are willing to share and don't want to be nosy. I have learned a lot from the forums. I will pm you one of these days if you don't mind. Everyone I know gets tired of me talking about soap all the time. I'm excited for you for taking the leap and glad to her it's going well for you. Thank you and please do PM me - if you are on any of the soap making FB pages we may have already had conversations! I LOVE LOVE LOVE making soap and I know quite well that I have been fortunate to make a go of this - thanks to my mentor for sure! I hear what you are saying about 'having to make it' - I'm not there yet and I think that you could certainly pace yourself and not get to the point that you hate making soap. My mentor makes over 800 bars at a time....I'm thankful and need a days rest if I make 12 pounds/96 bars...... After our last show my husband started cracking the whip - my shelves are empty and I need to get moving! First, to get the whole new job thing sorted though. Sigh.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 12:03:44 GMT -5
Wow. Thank you! I'm completely addicted to making soap. Someday, probably after retirement I would love to sell some. Right now I trade and sell to only close friends and family and I donate the leftovers. I'm clueless about the business end , not sure I could ever make a profit, and worry a little that maybe it would make it less fun for me if I felt like I had to do it. So in the meantime I just keep making it. I have no soap mentors. I learned from a youtube video. I have talked to some soap makers at the farmers markets but I don't ask many question as I don't know how much info they are willing to share and don't want to be nosy. I have learned a lot from the forums. I will pm you one of these days if you don't mind. Everyone I know gets tired of me talking about soap all the time. I'm excited for you for taking the leap and glad to her it's going well for you. Thank you and please do PM me - if you are on any of the soap making FB pages we may have already had conversations! I LOVE LOVE LOVE making soap and I know quite well that I have been fortunate to make a go of this - thanks to my mentor for sure! I hear what you are saying about 'having to make it' - I'm not there yet and I think that you could certainly pace yourself and not get to the point that you hate making soap. My mentor makes over 800 bars at a time....I'm thankful and need a days rest if I make 12 pounds/96 bars...... After our last show my husband started cracking the whip - my shelves are empty and I need to get moving! First, to get the whole new job thing sorted though. Sigh. I will pm you. I don't think I would ever get tired of actually making the soap. I could do that all day long. I hate making labels, wrapping, dishes, etc. 800 bars! I normally make tiny 2,2 lb. batches ,sometimes 4lbs. I'm not on Facebook and that is another thing I would need to do if I wanted to sell. I apologize for derailing your thread. I just don't know anyone else with this hobby so I was excited to see it. I also want to see your soap! Good luck with the other job .
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Oct 1, 2015 12:47:55 GMT -5
steff is also selling homemade soap at farmer's markets. There's a couple of threads she started - one is something about Pumkin Spice and the original is something about being a busy girl. Might be on EE.
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Post by steff on Oct 1, 2015 13:40:43 GMT -5
I'm making sugar scrubs, foot soaks, bath salts, bath bombs, and simple melt & pour soaps right now. I sell at my town's Farmer's Market on Wednesdays, plus all the festivals my town throws. I make between $75-150 on Wednesdays, sometimes a little more. I fell into all this earlier this spring, so I'm still kinda winging it.
Yesterday was our last FM, so now I'm just working towards the next 3 fall festivals. during the "off season", I plan to do a lot of experimenting & learning. I'll be trying cold press soaps, bubble bars and making 2/3 color giant bath bombs.
For me it's just making me some spending money & giving me something to do now that my kiddo doesn't need me much anymore. It did take off much more than I ever expected. I'm constantly busy making more stock or making custom order gift baskets. I sell to all the folks in City Hall & the mayor calls for special made soaps. I sell to friends & family. I give my screw ups away to friends and family too. Even kiddo's friends order gift baskets for their moms/sisters. I sent samples of my glitter soap with my brother to his friends and ended up with several orders (I tapped the gay market there. lol) I even put together "gym packs" with a small bath fizzy to put in the bottom of the shower (no one likes the smell of a gym shower) & small 1 or 2 use soaps. Those sold well too.
If I did more Farmer's Markets and worked more weekend festivals, I could probably make a good amount of money each week. But this really did start out as a hobby/fell into it. so I'm just not to the point of being ready to do 3 or 4 places in a week. I might be to that point next spring when they all kick off again. This year, I've only done things in my town. But I am surrounded by small towns that always have something going on weekends. I have more people I could market to.
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Post by daisy on Oct 1, 2015 17:19:24 GMT -5
I'm making sugar scrubs, foot soaks, bath salts, bath bombs, and simple melt & pour soaps right now. I sell at my town's Farmer's Market on Wednesdays, plus all the festivals my town throws. I make between $75-150 on Wednesdays, sometimes a little more. I fell into all this earlier this spring, so I'm still kinda winging it. Yesterday was our last FM, so now I'm just working towards the next 3 fall festivals. during the "off season", I plan to do a lot of experimenting & learning. I'll be trying cold press soaps, bubble bars and making 2/3 color giant bath bombs. For me it's just making me some spending money & giving me something to do now that my kiddo doesn't need me much anymore. It did take off much more than I ever expected. I'm constantly busy making more stock or making custom order gift baskets. I sell to all the folks in City Hall & the mayor calls for special made soaps. I sell to friends & family. I give my screw ups away to friends and family too. Even kiddo's friends order gift baskets for their moms/sisters. I sent samples of my glitter soap with my brother to his friends and ended up with several orders (I tapped the gay market there. lol) I even put together "gym packs" with a small bath fizzy to put in the bottom of the shower (no one likes the smell of a gym shower) & small 1 or 2 use soaps. Those sold well too. If I did more Farmer's Markets and worked more weekend festivals, I could probably make a good amount of money each week. But this really did start out as a hobby/fell into it. so I'm just not to the point of being ready to do 3 or 4 places in a week. I might be to that point next spring when they all kick off again. This year, I've only done things in my town. But I am surrounded by small towns that always have something going on weekends. I have more people I could market to. I I hear you! If it were March I wouldn't even be looking for a full-time job...I'd just sign up for all the local farmer's markets and do craft/art shows on the weekends. We have tons of markets around here and I'm quite sure I could easily replace my paltry full-time income with events. But, one must think long-term I guess. Sigh. I too am surprised how quickly it has taken off. My DH sold 4 bars to a guy at work today who said, "Your wife sells soap ? Where, when, how?" so DH pointed out my FB page and the guy ordered soap right then and there. My mentor gives a class on CP so that's what I jumped in with - if you have any questions please feel free to ask, I will help if I can. And in turn I will probably ask you about bath bombs, I have never tried but they look like so much fun! Bubble bars too, I just have to break down and buy the SLSA. $75 to 150 at a market is good - I'm upgrading to salve and EO rollers for next year - MAJOR profit in those and I'm sure I will see a big jump in income/profit after that. Anyway, back on topic (it's my thread, I can derail it if I want to right? ) - I had my Health Assessment at the U today and got a Flu shot and my TB test...making me feel more committed to this job..but I'm still gong to do the interview on Monday and see how I feel after that.
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Post by Shooby on Oct 1, 2015 23:54:29 GMT -5
There is nothing unethical about choosing to change jobs.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Oct 2, 2015 6:56:20 GMT -5
There's also a thread on Job Hunting that Shanendoah started - it started with her job search but she was posting really good stuff on interviews and resumes and eventually she declared the thread to be an open job hunting/advice type thread. So if you feel a need for help on the interviewing and stuff, feel free to hop on over there. You don't have to read all 90+ pages either - just start at the end and someone will help out. I like the talk about soap selling. Because I never really thought about it and I never really bought stuff. Now that I've got a bit of a peek into that world, I'm more willing to buy from the sellers at my local Farmer's Markets. So while it might not help any of you soap makers individually, it's helping some other soap maker. Edit to add - and my kids are enjoying the soaps from the FM - my son is desperately trying to get the elephant toy out of his bar.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 15:55:41 GMT -5
There's also a thread on Job Hunting that Shanendoah started - it started with her job search but she was posting really good stuff on interviews and resumes and eventually she declared the thread to be an open job hunting/advice type thread. So if you feel a need for help on the interviewing and stuff, feel free to hop on over there. You don't have to read all 90+ pages either - just start at the end and someone will help out. I like the talk about soap selling. Because I never really thought about it and I never really bought stuff. Now that I've got a bit of a peek into that world, I'm more willing to buy from the sellers at my local Farmer's Markets. So while it might not help any of you soap makers individually, it's helping some other soap maker. Edit to add - and my kids are enjoying the soaps from the FM - my son is desperately trying to get the elephant toy out of his bar. Yay to you for supporting your local soap makers! Now that you mention it I wonder if my soap obsession started as a kid. I had these fuzzy wuzzy bear soaps that grew fuzz once they had gotten wet. I think they also had a little toy inside. I loved those soaps. I have no idea what that fuzz would have been. Mold ?
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Post by daisy on Oct 2, 2015 18:27:43 GMT -5
There's also a thread on Job Hunting that Shanendoah started - it started with her job search but she was posting really good stuff on interviews and resumes and eventually she declared the thread to be an open job hunting/advice type thread. So if you feel a need for help on the interviewing and stuff, feel free to hop on over there. You don't have to read all 90+ pages either - just start at the end and someone will help out. I like the talk about soap selling. Because I never really thought about it and I never really bought stuff. Now that I've got a bit of a peek into that world, I'm more willing to buy from the sellers at my local Farmer's Markets. So while it might not help any of you soap makers individually, it's helping some other soap maker. Edit to add - and my kids are enjoying the soaps from the FM - my son is desperately trying to get the elephant toy out of his bar. Thanks Beth - I did read Shanendoah's thread from the beginning and I've loved reading everyone's updates. I guess as a relatively new poster I felt awkward posting on an established thread. Weird, I know. Plus now I'm glad I did since it's veered off into soap making territory . But I do plan updates here after my interview on Monday. I had lunch with a friend who supported my decision to interview and to possibly consider an offer (if they even make one!). I'm glad you are enjoying your homemade soap from the FM! I love supporting local businesses, I buy my beeswax from a woman at our local FM. Hahah on the elephant toy, I've seen those soaps and they are super cute. Perfect for the kiddos.
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Post by daisy on Oct 2, 2015 18:30:44 GMT -5
There's also a thread on Job Hunting that Shanendoah started - it started with her job search but she was posting really good stuff on interviews and resumes and eventually she declared the thread to be an open job hunting/advice type thread. So if you feel a need for help on the interviewing and stuff, feel free to hop on over there. You don't have to read all 90+ pages either - just start at the end and someone will help out. I like the talk about soap selling. Because I never really thought about it and I never really bought stuff. Now that I've got a bit of a peek into that world, I'm more willing to buy from the sellers at my local Farmer's Markets. So while it might not help any of you soap makers individually, it's helping some other soap maker. Edit to add - and my kids are enjoying the soaps from the FM - my son is desperately trying to get the elephant toy out of his bar. Yay to you for supporting your local soap makers! Now that you mention it I wonder if my soap obsession started as a kid. I had these fuzzy wuzzy bear soaps that grew fuzz once they had gotten wet. I think they also had a little toy inside. I loved those soaps. I have no idea what that fuzz would have been. Mold ? Oh that is one nasty thought! Ewww...I hope it wasn't mold. I can't imagine what it would have been though. Dreaded Orange Spots are bad enough, even though they are purely cosmetic. I was looking at a comparison of 100% oil soaps from A-Z oils....there were a few that ended up 6 mos later as completely moldy. Maybe that's the kind of oil they used for your childhood soap?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 20:29:35 GMT -5
Yay to you for supporting your local soap makers! Now that you mention it I wonder if my soap obsession started as a kid. I had these fuzzy wuzzy bear soaps that grew fuzz once they had gotten wet. I think they also had a little toy inside. I loved those soaps. I have no idea what that fuzz would have been. Mold ? Oh that is one nasty thought! Ewww...I hope it wasn't mold. I can't imagine what it would have been though. Dreaded Orange Spots are bad enough, even though they are purely cosmetic. I was looking at a comparison of 100% oil soaps from A-Z oils....there were a few that ended up 6 mos later as completely moldy. Maybe that's the kind of oil they used for your childhood soap? I found something on the Fuzzy Wuzzy soap lol! Looks like I'm remembering wrong and the fur went away when it got wet. I have no idea how they made it furry but I really thought it was cool it as a kid. The little prize inside I'm sure helped also. "MAN – you all make me jealous. I remember REALLY WANTING a Fuzzy Wuzzy soap, but my mother, at the time, thought it was silly and wouldn’t waste the money on it. ONE DAY I VOW TO FINALLY GET MY FUZZY WUZZY ! Chris 1962" www.feelingretro.com/toys/Misc-Toys/fuzzy-wuzzy-soap.php
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