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Post by deziloooooo on Sept 27, 2015 20:19:33 GMT -5
“Government Shutdown Would Shut Down Food Stamps” Unlike the 2013 shutdown, millions would lose food assistance if Republicans shut down the government.
Imagine this scenario: After scraping by for the last week, a mother rushes to get groceries. But the cashier tells her there is no money available on her benefits card. Now, she has no idea how she’ll feed her family. If the government shuts down in 3 days, this will be a reality for the 45 million Americans relying on food stamps in October. House Republicans are willing to let millions starve to prove a political point.
Did you see what happened on Friday? Congressional Republicans ousted John Boehner because he wasn’t conservative enough for them. That’s how far right they’ve gotten -- the man who sued President Obama and shutdown the government over Obamacare is now considered “moderate.”
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 27, 2015 20:37:56 GMT -5
if the GOP goes through with this, they are going to get crushed next year.
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Post by tallguy on Sept 27, 2015 20:51:05 GMT -5
No they won't. Just ask 'em! They'll tell ya!
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Post by b2r on Sept 27, 2015 21:15:12 GMT -5
Imagine this scenario: This is Paul's thread and it's removed by now for lack of a source.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 27, 2015 22:43:50 GMT -5
Imagine this scenario: This is Paul's thread and it's removed by now for lack of a source. Paul has always been reminded to add a source. I do not recall any of paul's threads ever removed because he did not supply a source. In fact, I have seen moderators search the Internet to find the source of material paul posted and add it to his post.
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Post by dondub on Sept 27, 2015 22:45:39 GMT -5
Repos don't have that much of A problem starving kids. Their SNAP cutbacks about 2 years ago bumped the food bank visits on the day I volunteer by 25-35%. Yes, we keep track.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 27, 2015 22:51:10 GMT -5
Imagine this scenario: This is Paul's thread and it's removed by now for lack of a source. Other than the first line of the opening post being in parentheses, there is nothing in the remainder of the post that I can see which has been copied verbatim from the Internet. And there is nothing unique to the the first line of the opening post either.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 9:15:15 GMT -5
Repos don't have that much of A problem starving kids. Their SNAP cutbacks about 2 years ago bumped the food bank visits on the day I volunteer by 25-35%. Yes, we keep track. This also does not have a source. Can someone provide a link where a child starved because of Snap cutbacks? Or is it just empty hyperbole?
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Post by Value Buy on Sept 28, 2015 9:30:06 GMT -5
Imagine this scenario: This is Paul's thread and it's removed by now for lack of a source. Other than the first line of the opening post being in parentheses, there is nothing in the remainder of the post that I can see which has been copied verbatim from the Internet. And there is nothing unique to the the first line of the opening post either. The message reads as an article, not Dezi's posting style. The last sentence sounds like his words. Since he usually only quotes from Al Jezzeera, (sp?) let's just say it there As per our standards, he is responsible for posting a source, so I do not see a problem requesting it.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 28, 2015 9:29:38 GMT -5
Repos don't have that much of A problem starving kids. Their SNAP cutbacks about 2 years ago bumped the food bank visits on the day I volunteer by 25-35%. Yes, we keep track. This also does not have a source. Can someone provide a link where a child starved because of Snap cutbacks? Or is it just empty hyperbole? Linked sources are required for copyrighted material. As the poster did not copy and paste copyrighted material or a news source, no source is required. Other than that, it is hearsay. If a source was required for every post on the board, you, Hickle, would be quite busy trying to find links to prove your point(s).
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Post by resolution on Sept 28, 2015 9:34:31 GMT -5
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 28, 2015 9:34:47 GMT -5
Other than the first line of the opening post being in parentheses, there is nothing in the remainder of the post that I can see which has been copied verbatim from the Internet. And there is nothing unique to the the first line of the opening post either. The message reads as an article, not Dezi's posting style. The last sentence sounds like his words. Since he usually only quotes from Al Jezzeera, (sp?) let's just say it there As per our standards, he is responsible for posting a source, so I do not see a problem requesting it. I went through his post line for line, nothing on the internet. As there are a number of Internet articles titled “Government Shutdown Would Shut Down Food Stamps”, should we require all those websites post a link to where they got their article title from too? Otherwise, it seems many website sites simply had the same thought.
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Post by Politically_Incorrect12 on Sept 28, 2015 9:37:05 GMT -5
Of course it's the Republicans fault and Democrats are just doing everything they can to get a deal through....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 9:38:47 GMT -5
This also does not have a source. Can someone provide a link where a child starved because of Snap cutbacks? Or is it just empty hyperbole? Linked sources are required for copyrighted material. As the poster did not copy and paste copyrighted material or a news source, no source is required. Other than that, it is hearsay. If a source was required for every post on the board, you, Hickle, would be quite busy trying to find links to prove your point(s). Most of what I post is just my opinion or what my values/ beliefs are. So was it just empty hyperbole that some kid starved because of Snap cutbacks or did that actually happen?
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Post by Value Buy on Sept 28, 2015 9:40:22 GMT -5
The message reads as an article, not Dezi's posting style. The last sentence sounds like his words. Since he usually only quotes from Al Jezzeera, (sp?) let's just say it there As per our standards, he is responsible for posting a source, so I do not see a problem requesting it. I went through his post line for line, nothing on the internet. As there are a number of Internet articles titled “Government Shutdown Would Shut Down Food Stamps”, should we require all those websites post a link to where they got their article title from too? Otherwise, it seems many website sites simply had the same thought. Tenn, as I said he has a favorite website he posts from. I am welling to accept the fact it's from there somewhere. Since there are "quotemarks" posted by the op, it has to be coming from somewhere other than his own words. It is fair to say he has to post the source for us. As I said, I see no problem with someone requesting a source. In the grand scheme of things, the right cannot win arguing over starving children, so, in my estimation it really does not matter........no skin off my behind.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 28, 2015 9:40:00 GMT -5
Linked sources are required for copyrighted material. As the poster did not copy and paste copyrighted material or a news source, no source is required. Other than that, it is hearsay. If a source was required for every post on the board, you, Hickle, would be quite busy trying to find links to prove your point(s). Most of what I post is just my opinion or what my values/ beliefs are. So was it just empty hyperbole that some kid starved because of Snap cutbacks or did that actually happen? As the claim was not mine but Dondub's, you will have to ask him. Did I really have to explain that to you? Really?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 9:43:50 GMT -5
Most of what I post is just my opinion or what my values/ beliefs are. So was it just empty hyperbole that some kid starved because of Snap cutbacks or did that actually happen? As the claim was not mine but Dondub's, you will have to ask him. Did I really have to explain that to you? Really? I did not put you in the middle of the conversation. I asked for a source and you replied. I continued with you as I thought you interjecting yourself meant you wanted to be part of what I was asking about. Feel free never to explain anything to me, if you like.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 28, 2015 9:45:26 GMT -5
I went through his post line for line, nothing on the internet. As there are a number of Internet articles titled “Government Shutdown Would Shut Down Food Stamps”, should we require all those websites post a link to where they got their article title from too? Otherwise, it seems many website sites simply had the same thought. Tenn, as I said he has a favorite website he posts from. I am welling to accept the fact it's from there somewhere. Since there are "quotemarks" posted by the op, it has to be coming from somewhere other than his own words. It is fair to say he has to post the source for us. As I said, I see no problem with someone requesting a source. In the grand scheme of things, the right cannot win arguing over starving children, so, in my estimation it really does not matter........no skin off my behind. Here's a link with “Government Shutdown Would Shut Down Food Stamps”: link And here are the rest of the links with “Government Shutdown Would Shut Down Food Stamps” Google search: “Government Shutdown Would Shut Down Food Stamps”
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 28, 2015 9:46:55 GMT -5
As the claim was not mine but Dondub's, you will have to ask him. Did I really have to explain that to you? Really? I did not put you in the middle of the conversation. I asked for a source and you replied. I continued with you as I thought you interjecting yourself meant you wanted to be part of what I was asking about. Feel free never to explain anything to me, if you like. Then next time don't quote me and put a question mark at the end of your sentence to me as in "So was it just empty hyperbole that some kid starved because of Snap cutbacks or did that actually happen?"
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Post by Value Buy on Sept 28, 2015 9:50:58 GMT -5
I did not put you in the middle of the conversation. I asked for a source and you replied. I continued with you as I thought you interjecting yourself meant you wanted to be part of what I was asking about. Feel free never to explain anything to me, if you like. Then next time don't quote me and put a question mark at the end of your sentence to me as in "So was it just empty hyperbole that some kid starved because of Snap cutbacks or did that actually happen?" It does get confusing trying to keep up with some posters actual thoughts and who they are actually replying to. I thought he was replying to you.......
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 9:51:46 GMT -5
I did not put you in the middle of the conversation. I asked for a source and you replied. I continued with you as I thought you interjecting yourself meant you wanted to be part of what I was asking about. Feel free never to explain anything to me, if you like. Then next time don't quote me and put a question mark at the end of your sentence to me as in "So was it just empty hyperbole that some kid starved because of Snap cutbacks or did that actually happen?" I will format my replies however I please. I am not sure why you dislike my posts so much. I am very liberal on social issues, probably more so then you, so that might be why, idk. My ideas on social issues align very much with old style liberals from when I was young.
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Post by Politically_Incorrect12 on Sept 28, 2015 11:07:27 GMT -5
Maybe if a government shutdown meant nobody in the House, Senate, or President would get paid; it might have the two sides work together a little better. Of course the issue with that is that most of the people in those positions really wouldn't be affected much, but their staff on the other hand would be affected and that's not necessarily a good thing either. Every time there isn't an agreement, the left always wants to play "but the starving children" card and people completely ignore there part in the issue.
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Post by The Captain on Sept 28, 2015 11:15:21 GMT -5
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 28, 2015 11:19:36 GMT -5
Maybe if a government shutdown meant nobody in the House, Senate, or President would get paid; it might have the two sides work together a little better. Of course the issue with that is that most of the people in those positions really wouldn't be affected much, but their staff on the other hand would be affected and that's not necessarily a good thing either. Every time there isn't an agreement, the left always wants to play "but the starving children" card and people completely ignore there part in the issue. you think that congress gives a crap about their pay? how quaint.
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Post by Politically_Incorrect12 on Sept 28, 2015 11:23:37 GMT -5
Maybe if a government shutdown meant nobody in the House, Senate, or President would get paid; it might have the two sides work together a little better. Of course the issue with that is that most of the people in those positions really wouldn't be affected much, but their staff on the other hand would be affected and that's not necessarily a good thing either. Every time there isn't an agreement, the left always wants to play "but the starving children" card and people completely ignore there part in the issue. you think that congress gives a crap about their pay? how quaint. If you're going to insult me by calling what I wrote "quaint," then you should probably read when I wrote that most of the people in those positions wouldn't be affected much. I thought there was an implication there about it might not do any good either way.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 28, 2015 11:32:21 GMT -5
you think that congress gives a crap about their pay? how quaint. If you're going to insult me by calling what I wrote "quaint," then you should probably read when I wrote that most of the people in those positions wouldn't be affected much. I thought there was an implication there about it might not do any good either way. yeah, probably. my point is that congress has so much income outside of salary (for the most part) that they don't really care about the shutdown PERSONALLY. let me ask you this, PI: do you think that congress cares about their constituencies?
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Sept 28, 2015 11:44:43 GMT -5
If you're going to insult me by calling what I wrote "quaint," then you should probably read when I wrote that most of the people in those positions wouldn't be affected much. I thought there was an implication there about it might not do any good either way. yeah, probably. my point is that congress has so much income outside of salary (for the most part) that they don't really care about the shutdown PERSONALLY. let me ask you this, PI: do you think that congress cares about their constituencies? Congress and the airports, was that 3 years ago? To me, that's kinda proof that the members in Congress then didn't really care until it affected them personally.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 28, 2015 11:46:56 GMT -5
yeah, probably. my point is that congress has so much income outside of salary (for the most part) that they don't really care about the shutdown PERSONALLY. let me ask you this, PI: do you think that congress cares about their constituencies? Congress and the airports, was that 3 years ago? To me, that's kinda proof that the members in Congress then didn't really care until it affected them personally. yeah, sorry- i wasn't very clear there. i meant as far as income goes, not all of the other stuff. you are right about that.
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 28, 2015 11:56:58 GMT -5
Other than the first line of the opening post being in parentheses, there is nothing in the remainder of the post that I can see which has been copied verbatim from the Internet. And there is nothing unique to the the first line of the opening post either. The message reads as an article, not Dezi's posting style. The last sentence sounds like his words. Since he usually only quotes from Al Jezzeera, (sp?) let's just say it there As per our standards, he is responsible for posting a source, so I do not see a problem requesting it. There is no evidence of copy/paste in Dezi's post, VB. I've checked and the post is not repeated, verbatim, from another source. No need for citing in that case. It is not on Al Jazeera, so let's not say it's there.
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Post by deziloooooo on Sept 29, 2015 8:34:17 GMT -5
Other than the first line of the opening post being in parentheses, there is nothing in the remainder of the post that I can see which has been copied verbatim from the Internet. And there is nothing unique to the the first line of the opening post either. The message reads as an article, not Dezi's posting style. The last sentence sounds like his words. Since he usually only quotes from Al Jezzeera, (sp?) let's just say it there As per our standards, he is responsible for posting a source, so I do not see a problem requesting it. Ok....I see the point ....I didn't post the source since it was in a E mail to me from DEM politicals sending to gather $ for Dems......but I agreed with all of the message being posted thus posted as you see it...
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