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Post by zibazinski on Sept 1, 2015 14:53:09 GMT -5
I wish CPS would get involved. Women lose custody if they stay with abusers and molesters
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Sept 1, 2015 15:23:54 GMT -5
I think some of you are underestimating how much a loving, Christian, image means to these folks. They do NOT want to be painted as child abusers and perverts the way the FLDS has become known.
In the right hands, Anna's case for divorce would leave her set for life. Josh would be ordered to pay. That doesn't mean Josh would do the paying. I suspect there is ton of money among all of the Gothard followers. They live VERY frugally. They have no debt. And, they tithe. Paying Anna's alimony and child support could be spun into the legal and spiritual responsibility of the entire faith community. In the right hands...not some sympathizing local yokel attorney.
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Post by quince on Sept 1, 2015 15:53:03 GMT -5
I doubt that money would be a problem. She has a sibling that has offered support in getting out, and even if she didn't, I'd bet a gofundme or similar call for donations would gain traction. Or a TLC special about her pulling her life together. The biggest barriers to exit are her indoctrination and the fact that she is essentially surrounded by the "enemy".
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Post by teen persuasion on Sept 1, 2015 21:50:54 GMT -5
That's heresy, Beth. Heresy, I say. There is NOTHING in the Bible about women having the right to enjoy sex.
Next, you'll be saying they have a say in who they marry!!! Reject Satan, Beth, and repent or the fires of hell will sear your soul into eternity. You've never heard of the Song of Songs, or the Song of Solomon?
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Sept 1, 2015 22:22:47 GMT -5
That's heresy, Beth. Heresy, I say. There is NOTHING in the Bible about women having the right to enjoy sex.
Next, you'll be saying they have a say in who they marry!!! Reject Satan, Beth, and repent or the fires of hell will sear your soul into eternity. You've never heard of the Song of Songs, or the Song of Solomon? Well, Mary Magdalene was rumored to be a woman who enjoyed men and it took her "friendship" with Jesus to convince folks God still loved her for it.
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 1, 2015 23:13:41 GMT -5
Geez, when you think some American men go overseas to get submissive wives. We grow them right here, it's not necessary to go overseas anymore. Cute. They're only submissive until they get a green card.
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Post by dannylion on Sept 2, 2015 7:26:07 GMT -5
You've never heard of the Song of Songs, or the Song of Solomon? Well, Mary Magdalene was rumored to be a woman who enjoyed men and it took her "friendship" with Jesus to convince folks God still loved her for it. I believe there is a cohort among current Biblical scholars who have examined the texts referring to Ms. Magdalene and have determined that the notion of her promiscuity is not supported by the evidence but was a characterization promulgated by (ahem) male church leaders with an agenda.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Sept 2, 2015 7:29:29 GMT -5
That's heresy, Beth. Heresy, I say. There is NOTHING in the Bible about women having the right to enjoy sex.
Next, you'll be saying they have a say in who they marry!!! Reject Satan, Beth, and repent or the fires of hell will sear your soul into eternity. You've never heard of the Song of Songs, or the Song of Solomon? Thank you. That didn't occur to me until later.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Sept 2, 2015 7:30:05 GMT -5
Well, Mary Magdalene was rumored to be a woman who enjoyed men and it took her "friendship" with Jesus to convince folks God still loved her for it. I believe there is a cohort among current Biblical scholars who have examined the texts referring to Ms. Magdalene and have determined that the notion of her promiscuity is not supported by the evidence but was a characterization promulgated by (ahem) male church leaders with an agenda. I'd heard that too.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 2, 2015 7:30:10 GMT -5
Well, Mary Magdalene was rumored to be a woman who enjoyed men and it took her "friendship" with Jesus to convince folks God still loved her for it. I believe there is a cohort among current Biblical scholars who have examined the texts referring to Ms. Magdalene and have determined that the notion of her promiscuity is not supported by the evidence but was a characterization promulgated by (ahem) male church leaders with an agenda. One of my high school teacher's religious name was Sister Mary Magdalene. I wonder if she was a hooker before entering the convent.
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Post by teen persuasion on Sept 2, 2015 7:45:43 GMT -5
Well, Mary Magdalene was rumored to be a woman who enjoyed men and it took her "friendship" with Jesus to convince folks God still loved her for it. I believe there is a cohort among current Biblical scholars who have examined the texts referring to Ms. Magdalene and have determined that the notion of her promiscuity is not supported by the evidence but was a characterization promulgated by (ahem) male church leaders with an agenda. Probably to discredit the Gospel of Mary Magdalene. Their main method seems to have been willfully misreading previous sections and lumping all the mentioned women together into one persona. So Mary (sister of Martha) = Mary Magdalene = other woman mentioned in between (no name given, but of questionable morals). It's a wonder they didn't include Mary, mother of Jesus, you know, since she's a woman named Mary, too.
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Post by 973beachbum on Sept 2, 2015 8:02:37 GMT -5
Well, Mary Magdalene was rumored to be a woman who enjoyed men and it took her "friendship" with Jesus to convince folks God still loved her for it. I believe there is a cohort among current Biblical scholars who have examined the texts referring to Ms. Magdalene and have determined that the notion of her promiscuity is not supported by the evidence but was a characterization promulgated by (ahem) male church leaders with an agenda. Not only isn't it supported it is known that it was made up by Pope Gregory. I am not religious but I hate rumors and lies.
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Post by Blonde Granny on Sept 2, 2015 8:13:51 GMT -5
Please be careful, your posts are wandering off into specific references from the Bible. Any more and this thread will be moved into the Religious Discussion forum.
BG - Admin
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Post by dannylion on Sept 2, 2015 9:22:40 GMT -5
'Zackly. A leader with an agenda. Not unlike the leadership of the Gothard and Quiverfull cults, of which Josh Duggar is a product. Or byproduct. Or something.
And we are now more or less back on topic .
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Post by Blonde Granny on Sept 2, 2015 9:29:14 GMT -5
Thank you!
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Sept 2, 2015 10:10:21 GMT -5
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 2, 2015 10:45:38 GMT -5
I believe there is a cohort among current Biblical scholars who have examined the texts referring to Ms. Magdalene and have determined that the notion of her promiscuity is not supported by the evidence but was a characterization promulgated by (ahem) male church leaders with an agenda. One of my high school teacher's religious name was Sister Mary Magdalene. I wonder if she was a hooker before entering the convent. Someone is certainly living up to being "evil."
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 2, 2015 12:50:02 GMT -5
One of my high school teacher's religious name was Sister Mary Magdalene. I wonder if she was a hooker before entering the convent. Someone is certainly living up to being "evil." It's the nuns' fault I tell ya. The nuns' fault.
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Post by zibazinski on Sept 2, 2015 14:01:34 GMT -5
Product of Catholic schools-grumble
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 2, 2015 14:02:40 GMT -5
Absolutely. We are the WORST!
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Post by Blonde Granny on Sept 4, 2015 6:45:20 GMT -5
Just a heads up to others who post on this thread....and I'll have to go back and find the link to the story...but another woman has come forward regarding Josh Duggar, and it's quite interesting. The story also goes on to say that it appears he has disappeared from the Christian Recovery place where he was to stay for 6 months.
As I said, link to follow.
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Post by swamp on Sept 4, 2015 6:54:00 GMT -5
Also another story about his sister Jessa is no longer supporting him.
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Post by Blonde Granny on Sept 4, 2015 6:57:40 GMT -5
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Sept 4, 2015 8:41:49 GMT -5
Also another story about his sister Jessa is no longer supporting him. what did it say? She retweeted something her FIL, Mike Seewald, said about Josh. Not her words, but in retweeting Seewald's condemnation of the situation, people are taking it as she no longer supports her brother: www.cnn.com/2015/09/03/entertainment/jessa-seewald-josh-duggar
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Post by Plain Old Petunia on Sept 6, 2015 1:48:38 GMT -5
I think it is entirely possible that Josh has been excused from the church services because of all the media interest. It would be very disruptive to the other people in the program.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Sept 6, 2015 17:19:59 GMT -5
I read this article. I had no idea there was this kind of rehab facility about 3 hours away from me. One of the comments is "did anybody check the local Hooters?"
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