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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Aug 10, 2015 15:41:33 GMT -5
The dog in the picture looks like a sweetie pumpkin. It looks like it has one brown eye and one blue eye and I want to hug it. Yeah, I noticed that too. The dog makes me think of Norman Rockwell's work.
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Post by dannylion on Aug 10, 2015 15:47:17 GMT -5
The dog in the picture looks like a sweetie pumpkin. It looks like it has one brown eye and one blue eye and I want to hug it. Me, too! Of course, I want to hug all dogs, but this one is particularly appealing.
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Post by kittensaver on Aug 10, 2015 16:24:52 GMT -5
The dog in the picture looks like a sweetie pumpkin. It looks like it has one brown eye and one blue eye and I want to hug it. This Aussie's coloring is known as blue merle. It is very common for blue merle shepherds to have different colored eyes . I agree he/she is a beauty .
Sorry for the hijack. Now back to your regularly scheduled thread . . .
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Post by mamasita99 on Aug 10, 2015 17:39:20 GMT -5
My tiny beach condo has about 497 sq ft. 1 bedroom, 1 bath, walk in closet, washer/dryer closet, separate kitchen and small living/dining area. It seems way more comfortable than some of those tiny houses, and I'm sure the price is better, too! I'm just pointing out that one can save money by living small, but still be comfortable. I'm not going to sleep on the floor if I don't need to!
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Post by TheHaitian on Aug 10, 2015 18:04:48 GMT -5
We're planning to downsize quite a bit when the kids move out. Our current house is just under 2100 sq ft, plus a two car garage, and it's way more than two people will need. Loop likes some of the tiny houses, with the provision that they're on a big enough chunk of land for a garden, some outbuildings (shop, brew house, etc). That's the only way I realistically see something like that working, and there are some that have floor plans without a loft. Climbing a ladder to your top bunk would get really impractical as you age. We'll probably be looking for something in the 800-1000 sq ft range, on a few acres. Possibly smaller on the main house, although 200-300 sq ft seems really really small. We have a few old ranch houses in MA that are only 800-1,000 Sqft.... We almost bought one. But definitely see ourselves downsizing to one in let's say 30 years.... We both love ranches or single floor living (condo) so that is definitely an option for our next house or downsizing house.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Aug 10, 2015 20:03:47 GMT -5
Tiny houses on HGTV right now for those that might want to see.
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Post by TheHaitian on Aug 11, 2015 6:30:09 GMT -5
Tiny houses on HGTV right now for those that might want to see. I saw the one where the guy planned to travel with his... So in his case make sense. Hitch it to a truck and on to the next adventure. I guess you can park them in parks and what not. Still not for me
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Aug 11, 2015 10:32:25 GMT -5
Tiny houses on HGTV right now for those that might want to see. I saw the one where the guy planned to travel with his... So in his case make sense. Hitch it to a truck and on to the next adventure. I guess you can park them in parks and what not. Still not for me To travel, sure but still..... not for me either. I think there was one that had a full sized fridge in it so that is better than most but no. Still couldn't.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Aug 11, 2015 11:11:55 GMT -5
My parents have a 1970 Avion travel trailer. I'm guessing it's about 200 sf, give or take 10. Max length is 30 feet. Not sure on width but maybe just over 6 feet wide inside. It hasn't moved from the campground they keep it at since the 1980s. It's ok for weekends but no way I'd want to live in it for an extended period of time.
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Post by spartan7886 on Aug 11, 2015 14:26:12 GMT -5
One of my best friends and her husband are about 6 months into full-time RVing (both self-employed). Two adults, a cat, and a rat terrier in a 36 ft fifth wheel. It seems to work for them, but of course they are going places where there is lots to do outside, and the plan is only to do this for a few years. They have a very small laundry set, a not-quite-full-size fridge with freezer, and a two burner stove. Having both slides on the RV across from each other is apparently rare, but is key to making the living area feel less crowded with two desks in there. The kitty litter is in a small, random cabinet near the fridge. They have one closet about 4 feet wide along with their underbed storage and under-RV cabinets and a storage unit in Houston for furniture they will want again once they settle back down. They have solar panels now, so that takes care of electricity when there's not hookups, and they just have to be very careful about the volume of water they go through compared to the size of their tanks.
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Post by Jaguar on Aug 11, 2015 15:00:09 GMT -5
One of my best friends and her husband are about 6 months into full-time RVing (both self-employed). Two adults, a cat, and a rat terrier in a 36 ft fifth wheel. It seems to work for them, but of course they are going places where there is lots to do outside, and the plan is only to do this for a few years. They have a very small laundry set, a not-quite-full-size fridge with freezer, and a two burner stove. Having both slides on the RV across from each other is apparently rare, but is key to making the living area feel less crowded with two desks in there. The kitty litter is in a small, random cabinet near the fridge. They have one closet about 4 feet wide along with their underbed storage and under-RV cabinets and a storage unit in Houston for furniture they will want again once they settle back down. They have solar panels now, so that takes care of electricity when there's not hookups, and they just have to be very careful about the volume of water they go through compared to the size of their tanks. Now that I could not do, it ain't me.
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Post by tskeeter on Aug 11, 2015 15:36:59 GMT -5
We're planning to downsize quite a bit when the kids move out. Our current house is just under 2100 sq ft, plus a two car garage, and it's way more than two people will need. Loop likes some of the tiny houses, with the provision that they're on a big enough chunk of land for a garden, some outbuildings (shop, brew house, etc). That's the only way I realistically see something like that working, and there are some that have floor plans without a loft. Climbing a ladder to your top bunk would get really impractical as you age. We'll probably be looking for something in the 800-1000 sq ft range, on a few acres. Possibly smaller on the main house, although 200-300 sq ft seems really really small. Have joked about building a brew house to go with the smoke house. When I thought half seriously about it, I realized that the master bath is on the ouside wall of the house. With hot and cold water, sewer service, and electricity in the outside wall. And the gas comes in on that side of the house, about 15 - 20 feet from the bathroom. Now all I need is a concrete pad, some walls and a roof, maybe some FRP to help with some of the sanitation and I'm all set to start looking for used stainless tanks. Oh, it might help if I knew something about brewing, too. I think we'll move the smoke house to the other side of the house, take out a couple of shrubs, and put in a beer garden. And sell memberships. You stop by in the afternoon, have a couple of beers or glasses of wine, have some of whatever we've decided to make for dinner that day (sausages, pulled pork, smoked turkey, brisket, fried turkey, or anything else we could smoke or fry), visit with friends and neighbors, then toddle home.
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Post by Cookies Galore on Aug 11, 2015 16:03:37 GMT -5
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Post by cronewitch on Aug 11, 2015 19:20:56 GMT -5
We have a camper 11.5 ft long we were going to travel in with towing a boat. A week is fine, climbing into bed and making the bed is hard, plenty of storage 3 burner stove, two tiny sinks, small frig. It can run on propane and batteries and holds 40 gallons of water so you can live about 3 days before needing to go buy propane, tanks and get water or you park in an RV park with hookups. We never did laundry bring it home dirty, I stored the laundry in a basket in the second truck. It is better than homeless and has almost everything you need. My plan was to buy acreage when we got back and park it inside a barn with full hook ups. The barn would soon have a bed and storage maybe an outdoor kitchen/BBQ and we would have lawn furniture to sit outside or in the barn. I would then have a double wide mobile moved on to the acreage but live in the camper a year or less. I lived in a camp trailer that was 26ft long before it had everything except laundry. A single wide mobile about 40ft long is enough for 2 bedrooms and 2 baths and laundry but eat in the kitchen so only good for about 4 people maximum. Under about 100sq ft is too small, I wouldn't go below 400 without a good reason.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2015 21:46:10 GMT -5
Spartan...my inlaws have been retired since around '04. They pull their 36ft RV via a big truck to florida for 6 months every year, (one slide out) from mid-Oct to mid-Apr. Snowbirds, yanno....have the time of their lives...they usually stay at an RV park for multiple months at a time, and just take the truck on day trips type of thing; visiting, shopping, sight seeing, etc..
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Post by Waffle on Aug 12, 2015 5:27:53 GMT -5
spartan7886 What kinds of work do your full-time RVing friends do?
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Post by spartan7886 on Aug 12, 2015 18:01:20 GMT -5
spartan7886 What kinds of work do your full-time RVing friends do? He writes iApps for people who have ideas but no coding skill. She co-owns an editing company that does grant applications, resumes, marketing materials, etc. His job is more obviously portable, but she built up a pretty good stable of regular clients before starting this, and her partner stayed available in Houston, although she's moving to California next month.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Aug 13, 2015 10:36:47 GMT -5
So I watched another episode last night - they were serious backpackers and triathletes so they had bikes and tents and stuff. In the 3 month follow up, they admitted to building additional storage off the back of their portable trailer/house and in the cut scenes, you could actually see a storage shed on the plot of land they had as well. So... their tiny house was not really acceptable to their lifestyle. It seems silly to me, just get what space you need and stop joining this weird cult.
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Post by mamasita99 on Aug 14, 2015 5:03:18 GMT -5
Who remembers the "Not So Big House" trend? It started from a book by Sarah Susanka. These houses were the ones in the middle-high quality, not high square footage. Not too big, not too tiny, but "just right". I liked that it emphasized getting what you needed for your lifestyle, but these houses weren't a way to save money the way that the author designed them. They had expensive details that bumped up the costs to make up for the lack of square footage.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Aug 14, 2015 10:04:16 GMT -5
There are vastly different building codes that apply to houses and sheds. You don't need to store your bike in a building that requires electrical sockets every so many feet, full insulation, inspections, windows that a person can egress through in an emergency, etc., etc. All that stuff drives up the building cost per sq ft. It makes sense to only have as much space as you need in your house, and store your crap in a cheaper shed, barn, or shop. Some of the tiny houses are a little too tiny and don't seem like they'd meet anybody's long term needs. I'll totally give you that. But random junk and sports equipment doesn't need to be stored in a fully insulated climate controlled house either. It does just fine in a shed or shipping container and those cost a lot less per sq ft to build/buy. They still kept their bikes in the house. Camping equipment was off the side of the house. No idea what was in the shed.
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Post by Chocolate Lover on Aug 14, 2015 10:05:32 GMT -5
There are vastly different building codes that apply to houses and sheds. You don't need to store your bike in a building that requires electrical sockets every so many feet, full insulation, inspections, windows that a person can egress through in an emergency, etc., etc. All that stuff drives up the building cost per sq ft. It makes sense to only have as much space as you need in your house, and store your crap in a cheaper shed, barn, or shop. Some of the tiny houses are a little too tiny and don't seem like they'd meet anybody's long term needs. I'll totally give you that. But random junk and sports equipment doesn't need to be stored in a fully insulated climate controlled house either. It does just fine in a shed or shipping container and those cost a lot less per sq ft to build/buy. They still kept their bikes in the house. Camping equipment was off the side of the house. No idea what was in the shed. And those that you can tow from place to place require you to be able to store your stuff so you can take it with you. I just don't get it.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Aug 14, 2015 11:53:23 GMT -5
""I don't need a large space, but the small space isn't appealing just because of the small space."
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Aug 15, 2015 12:24:26 GMT -5
I watched this last night, where they were building 2 houses in the vineyards in Pasco. They were cute, but I wouldn't want to live in one.
A couple weekends ago, we were in Golden BC and stayed in a cabin. I don't think that the cabin was any more than 300 sq ft. It was tight for 2 people for a weekend, I can't imagine living or trying to cook in it. Despite it having a full kitchen, we only made coffee. There was only about 2' of counter space to work on.
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