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Post by Bonny on Aug 5, 2015 11:11:08 GMT -5
This is me. I love being outdoors and can be out there all day hiking, swimming, etc. but camping - uh, no. My idea of camping is a luxury RV - LOL! You glamper you!
I don't mind getting dirty for a few days, makes me appreciate civilization.
But the key to a WONDERFUL camping site is camping near water that you can jump in. That way when you come out you don't stink so bad.
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 5, 2015 11:29:34 GMT -5
This is me. I love being outdoors and can be out there all day hiking, swimming, etc. but camping - uh, no. My idea of camping is a luxury RV - LOL! You glamper you!
I don't mind getting dirty for a few days, makes me appreciate civilization.
But the key to a WONDERFUL camping site is camping near water that you can jump in. That way when you come out you don't stink so bad.
I remember one 5 day hike we were near the end and meet someone just starting the other direction. We didn't realize what we smelled like until we smelled him.
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Post by Bonny on Aug 31, 2015 14:59:24 GMT -5
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Post by Bonny on Nov 2, 2015 10:03:26 GMT -5
Bonny-after you hike the PCT, might I suggest walking/hiking the Natchez Trace for a bit of 18/19th century southern culture and history? The Trace runs from Nashville, Tennessee to Natchez, Mississippi. Some background on the Natchez Trace along with a map. The word 'Stand' on the map means Inn which existed during those long ago times. Natchez Trace
Thought of this post Tennesseer.
Just finished an article in this month's Smithsonian about the Slave Trail of Tears where something like 500,000 black slaves were relocated from Virginia and Maryland to Tennessee and down to New Orleans along this trail. I had no idea about this mass migration from the Tobacco South to the Cotton South. Fascinating and horrifying at the same time.
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 2, 2015 10:21:50 GMT -5
Bonny-after you hike the PCT, might I suggest walking/hiking the Natchez Trace for a bit of 18/19th century southern culture and history? The Trace runs from Nashville, Tennessee to Natchez, Mississippi. Some background on the Natchez Trace along with a map. The word 'Stand' on the map means Inn which existed during those long ago times. Natchez Trace
Thought of this post Tennesseer.
Just finished an article in this month's Smithsonian about the Slave Trail of Tears where something like 500,000 black slaves were relocated from Virginia and Maryland to Tennessee and down to New Orleans along this trail. I had no idea about this mass migration from the Tobacco South to the Cotton South. Fascinating and horrifying at the same time.
Many fiction and non-fiction books have been written about the South, Bonnie. Still many more to be written. As silly as it sounds, I was driving in northern Mississippi years ago and suddenly delighted to find myself driving over the Tallahatchie River of Ode To Billie Joe , Tallahatchie Bridge fame. The bridge in the song collapsed in the 70s but the river is still there. Plenty of lore sights still around in the South.
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Post by Bonny on Nov 2, 2015 10:42:17 GMT -5
Tennesseer,
As you can tell, other than living in NoVA for three years and driving the southern route Christmas of 1989, I have spent no time in the South, other than vicariously through some famous Southern authors.
I've always maintained that my family had no connections with slavery because they probably came to the U.S. as indentured servants and lived in the NYC area. But I now recall that my maternal grandfather (who was 20+ years older than his wife) was supposedly from Tennessee. Not sure how old he was when he got to NYC but now I'm curious about his background.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Nov 2, 2015 10:56:15 GMT -5
Not to further detour this thread, but just as an FYI: there was an interesting segment on 60 Minutes last night about the search by the new Smithsonian African-American History Museum for information and exhibit materials related to the shipping of "slaves" from Africa to America and Europe. Many ships were lost en route -- including hundreds of thousands of the people shackled in the cargo holds. Not one of humanity's finest moments...
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Post by Bonny on Nov 2, 2015 11:00:19 GMT -5
Not to further detour this thread, but just as an FYI: there was an interesting segment on 60 Minutes last night about the search by the new Smithsonian African-American History Museum's for information and exhibit materials related to the shipping of "slaves" from Africa to America and Europe. Many ships were lost en route -- including hundreds of thousands of the people shackled in the cargo holds. Not one of humanity's finest moments... Saw that and thought it was interesting too.
I thought the comment about the mass migration being the biggest technological revolution at the time was interesting.
If you want to read more check out the book "1493". Terrific read on the ecological and economic changes after Columbus' "discovery" of the New World.
ETA: And it's my thread and I can devolve it if I want to
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 2, 2015 11:10:34 GMT -5
Tennesseer,
As you can tell, other than living in NoVA for three years and driving the southern route Christmas of 1989, I have spent no time in the South, other than vicariously through some famous Southern authors.
I've always maintained that my family had no connections with slavery because they probably came to the U.S. as indentured servants and lived in the NYC area. But I now recall that my maternal grandfather (who was 20+ years older than his wife) was supposedly from Tennessee. Not sure how old he was when he got to NYC but now I'm curious about his background. I'm still a New Englander at heart and both my maternal and paternal ancestors came from either Quebec/France or Ireland and Germany. All lived in the upper Mid-West or New England after migrating to the U.S. If you have the time and have not done so, join Ancestry.com for a month to research your ancestors. You may find out some interesting information. For example, I never knew this until my early 30s but my mother had a half-brother. My maternal grandfather had a son from a previous marriage. My maternal grandmother did not want my mother or her sister to talk about him. My mother eventually met her half-brother late in their lives. Both interestingly enough developed Alzheimer's disease (AD) later on. My maternial grandfather died at the age of 65 so I or no one knows if he would have developed AD but in me looking up his father on Ancestry.com, I found out my maternal great-grandfather died in an insane adylum. Probably had AD too-just no name or understanding of the disease in the late 1800s. So does AD run in the maternal side of the family? Something to watch for my siblings and me.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Nov 2, 2015 11:21:45 GMT -5
Not to further detour this thread, but just as an FYI: there was an interesting segment on 60 Minutes last night about the search by the new Smithsonian African-American History Museum's for information and exhibit materials related to the shipping of "slaves" from Africa to America and Europe. Many ships were lost en route -- including hundreds of thousands of the people shackled in the cargo holds. Not one of humanity's finest moments... Saw that and thought it was interesting too.
I thought the comment about the mass migration being the biggest technological revolution at the time was interesting.
If you want to read more check out the book "1493". Terrific read on the ecological and economic changes after Columbus' "discovery" of the New World.
ETA: And it's my thread and I can devolve it if I want to
I was somewhat confused by that thinking. I mean, I get how one could look at it that way, but, why? I suppose one could carry anger toward the slave merchants for generations, so maybe that was one man's attempt to let it go. And, certainly, the "slaves" worked hard and well and that work was the major force behind the development and growth of the U.S. But, I'm not sure how that reference will play out in the African-American community. In the end, the "slaves" were still people -- comparing them to machines and tools demands a delicate balance.
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Post by Apple on Nov 2, 2015 11:58:55 GMT -5
The Bridge of the Gods is right there in Cascade Locks (I-84, right around milepost 44). It's close to Multnomah Falls and the other gorge waterfalls. Not far south, you'll get out of the town and right into the mountains.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 2, 2015 12:13:43 GMT -5
The Bridge of the Gods is right there in Cascade Locks (I-84, right around milepost 44). It's close to Multnomah Falls and the other gorge waterfalls. Not far south, you'll get out of the town and right into the mountains. North we got into horrible blow down and just miserable stuff. Hope they have cleared that up. It has been a few years.
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Post by Bonny on Nov 2, 2015 13:43:36 GMT -5
Saw that and thought it was interesting too.
I thought the comment about the mass migration being the biggest technological revolution at the time was interesting.
If you want to read more check out the book "1493". Terrific read on the ecological and economic changes after Columbus' "discovery" of the New World.
ETA: And it's my thread and I can devolve it if I want to
I was somewhat confused by that thinking. I mean, I get how one could look at it that way, but, why? I suppose one could carry anger toward the slave merchants for generations, so maybe that was one man's attempt to let it go. And, certainly, the "slaves" worked hard and well and that work was the major force behind the development and growth of the U.S. But, I'm not sure how that reference will play out in the African-American community. In the end, the "slaves" were still people -- comparing them to machines and tools demands a delicate balance. We'll there has always been (and continues to be some form of) slavery in human history. And it was (Black) Africans selling other Black Africans to the (White) slave ship captains. One unique feature was the mass migration of this generation of slaves from one continent to another thousands of miles away. The shear numbers are staggering and could only happen because of the (relatively) emptiness of our country. And it changed everything, especially the scale of farming which led to other innovations up to and through the industrial revolution.
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Post by billisonboard on Nov 2, 2015 14:05:04 GMT -5
And to shift things back a bit: We were hiking out of the Snoqualmie Pass ski area which sits on I-90 up and up northward on the PCT. We were looking down at I-90 and I commented that they call it "the freeway".
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Post by tskeeter on Nov 3, 2015 16:58:20 GMT -5
Yup. About 10 inches of snow at the north end of Tahoe yesterday/last night. A couple of inches of snow on the ground at 5,000 feet.
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Post by Bonny on Nov 3, 2015 17:11:46 GMT -5
This is a better webcam site:
www.yosemiteconservancy.org/webcams
Good to see Yosemite Falls running again. It was nothing but a dark smudge when we visited last month.
And lol, I had another friend want to come visit me and go to Yosemite next year. My husband just
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Post by debthaven on Nov 3, 2015 18:26:24 GMT -5
I wish we were closer I would love to hike a few days with you. Good for you Bonny!
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Post by Tennesseer on Nov 3, 2015 19:08:54 GMT -5
And to shift things back a bit: We were hiking out of the Snoqualmie Pass ski area which sits on I-90 up and up northward on the PCT. We were looking down at I-90 and I commented that they call it "the freeway". Well the eastern end of I-90 sure doesn't look like that!
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Nov 3, 2015 21:27:29 GMT -5
Bear country - yes, you either need to hang or see if bear canisters are legal. Not sure how tall and agile you are, I have trouble hanging my food and prefer the ease (and weight) of canister packing. Are there campsites with bear boxes you can use? how the h&ll do you get a bear into a canister. dayum, you hikers are tough! I will never honk at a biker at REI again. (JK, it's seattle and we don't honk at anyone) I honk. I also drive on I-5.
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Post by Bonny on Nov 15, 2015 16:47:22 GMT -5
So it turns out that two acquaintances of mine have hiked the JMT. One did it in two segments; from Tuolumne Meadows to Happy Isles (Yosemite valley); "All downhill" he said, lol. The second section was from Tuolumne Meadows to Mt. Whitney. He is a former colleague of mine from when I worked at the private Railroad. I am meeting with him for lunch on Friday.
My other friend is actually my former boss at the Transit District. I think he hired me so he could retire, work part time so he could hike the JMT! I hadn't seen him in over 10 years and through a mutual friend just hooked up again with him and went for a hike on Wednesday. I was sorry to miss out on a 20 mile hike (keep in mind this guy is probably 75) yesterday but DH and I had already organized a dinner party for Saturday night. And when you do a 20 mile hike that's the ONLY thing you do that day besides having a hot date with your bathtub and Epsom salts.
On Thursday I was down 16 pounds. I was probably a little dehydrated but it means that I've reached the half way point of my goal of losing 30lbs before the big hike.
REI is running their 20% fall coupon so I've started looking at light-weight back packer sleeping bags. Dang, those things have gotten expensive! I'm going to need to actually physically check them out. Think I'll do that Tuesday afternoon.
Didn't go hiking today due to the rain and high winds. Started reading The Complete Walker" by Colin Fletcher. It's out of date but it's good backpacking basics, philosophy and humor.
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Post by GRG a/k/a goldenrulegirl on Nov 15, 2015 21:48:47 GMT -5
Is your DH coming around to the idea yet?
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Post by Bonny on Nov 15, 2015 23:55:53 GMT -5
Is your DH coming around to the idea yet? Sloooooooowly.
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Post by Bonny on Nov 16, 2015 13:48:28 GMT -5
alwaysbeoptimizing and HoneyBBQ,
There will be some expenses associated with the hike. As far as equipment is concerned I think the big items will be new sleeping bag, boots and whatever sat communicator and charging equipment I buy or lease.
There will be some motel/hotel costs for DH who seems to want to meet me at the two resupply stops. So maybe 4-6 days of lodging plus four R-T car rides ( drop-off, pick up + resupply).
I think it's going to be under $2k.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Nov 17, 2015 14:05:25 GMT -5
alwaysbeoptimizing and HoneyBBQ,
There will be some expenses associated with the hike. As far as equipment is concerned I think the big items will be new sleeping bag, boots and whatever sat communicator and charging equipment I buy or lease.
There will be some motel/hotel costs for DH who seems to want to meet me at the two resupply stops. So maybe 4-6 days of lodging plus four R-T car rides ( drop-off, pick up + resupply).
I think it's going to be under $2k.
2k for a month and a life long dream? Puhleeeeeeze.
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Post by raeoflyte on Nov 18, 2015 17:26:52 GMT -5
My backpacking experiences were nothing compared to that, but still some of the best things I've ever done. We thought we'd keep all of that up after we had kids. I'd spare no expense when it comes to equipment, and take it out a couple times before you hit the trail. REI will take it back if it doesn't work for what you need. Since I was always backpacking with dh, we added a little extra weight for a tarp over our eating area. There was always enough rain on our trips that having a dry place to sit while not in the tent was a real luxury. Please, please please share pictures!
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