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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2015 20:01:09 GMT -5
Is pretty, slim and tall enough? She is smart and confident and all that? 5'8" at 12 years old, is a size 0. Could she make some money or are there tons of girls like that?
I am just curious.
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Post by alabamagal on Aug 1, 2015 20:14:47 GMT -5
You have to have the right look. It is hard to describe just look at the models that are popular today. Some girls are pretty but don't have the right look.
I had a friend growing up who had a models body, 6' and size 3, but she did not have the right facial features. She was nice looking but not what agents were looking for. She did a few department store jobs but that was about it
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2015 20:17:12 GMT -5
You have to have the right look. It is hard to describe just look at the models that are popular today. Some girls are pretty but don't have the right look. I had a friend growing up who had a models body, 6' and size 3, but she did not have the right facial features. She was nice looking but not what agents were looking for. She did a few department store jobs but that was about it Did she make much money? Did she enjoy it? Was it worth doing just for the money or not really? A girl doesn't need to make a killing if it is enjoyable. Thanks for the reply.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2015 21:44:48 GMT -5
To be A model... or a recognized model?
I am amazed when I watch Tyra Banks, like her or don't, she knows her craft, knows her body, knows her business...
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 1, 2015 23:38:44 GMT -5
Have to admit when i read the thread title, I thought role model. I guess I am gearing up for directing a leadership camp with a high percentage of girls in a couple of weeks.
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Post by cronewitch on Aug 2, 2015 3:08:25 GMT -5
Not all models are fashion models. Some are catalog models or advertizing like a family looking at cars in brochures. At 12 she could look like little sister of 16 year old getting a car for his birthday or with make up look like a 16 year old. Sometimes you need to know someone. I knew someone who did car brochures, he used kids from his family. Walmart uses associates and their children.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 2, 2015 9:20:55 GMT -5
An agent.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 2, 2015 9:53:22 GMT -5
Be very photogenic. DD is okay looking but photographs amazingly. I'm better looking but I photograph poorly. Plus, find a niche. DD does motorcycles and their gear. Hunting gear and weapons. She looks like an outdoors girl. She's not overly tall or overly thin but she looks "the part." When my kids were little, they modeled and we were approached randomly. Different resorts and different countries kind of thing. They did boat shots and beach shots. Things like that.
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Aug 2, 2015 10:15:23 GMT -5
12 yrs old awfully young to be put into such a stressful job (if she was accepted).
I did a bit of fashion modeling when I was 15-16. It wasn't anything major-major - like for a NY runway or a magazine or anything - it was mostly local and provincial - doing shows for Bridal Fairs, Department Store spring/fall lines, etc.
It's lots of running around, being put through the wringer, for a few hours work and little pay.
It's very difficult to be picked up by a major agency or magazine, etc. 99.9% of girls/women who enter the business don't ever get the opportunity of making it into a paying career. And being a runway model usually means long hours with a lot of headaches that go with it. It's not as glamorous as people might believe it to be.
A lot of agencies will tell a girl (or her parents) that she has the perfect look, only to get her signed-on to their agency - and then you're constantly paying through the nose to that agency . They *might* send her to a few gigs to be tested/interviewed for a shoot or show, but it's usually just to keep you hooked and hopeful that she actually has a chance. 9 times out of 10 nothing will pan out from it.
Be very careful with your daughter - I wouldn't want you to give her false hope.
Is this her dream or yours?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 10:36:07 GMT -5
12 yrs old awfully young to be put into such a stressful job (if she was accepted).
I did a bit of fashion modeling when I was 15-16. It wasn't anything major-major - like for a NY runway or a magazine or anything - it was mostly local and provincial - doing shows for Bridal Fairs, Department Store spring/fall lines, etc.
It's lots of running around, being put through the wringer, for a few hours work and little pay.
It's very difficult to be picked up by a major agency or magazine, etc. 99.9% of girls/women who enter the business don't ever get the opportunity of making it into a paying career. And being a runway model usually means long hours with a lot of headaches that go with it. It's not as glamorous as people might believe it to be.
A lot of agencies will tell a girl (or her parents) that she has the perfect look, only to get her signed-on to their agency - and then you're constantly paying through the nose to that agency . They *might* send her to a few gigs to be tested/interviewed for a shoot or show, but it's usually just to keep you hooked and hopeful that she actually has a chance. 9 times out of 10 nothing will pan out from it.
Be very careful with your daughter - I wouldn't want you to give her false hope.
Is this her dream or yours? do you have experience with this or are you just going from stuff you have heard here and there?
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Aug 2, 2015 10:37:03 GMT -5
Read paragraph 1.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 10:43:07 GMT -5
sorry I missed that . Did you make much money at all? Were you wanting to make money or was it just for fun?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 10:45:59 GMT -5
Watch a few seasons of America's Next Top Model.
Then if you are interested see where auditions are for the next cycle.
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Post by 973beachbum on Aug 2, 2015 11:05:03 GMT -5
Just for the record 5'8 is actually short for a model. I know IRL it is tall, but most models are over 6 feet. I also like to watch Project Runway and have listened to Heidi Klum talk about how she is short for a model but made it because she won a contest in Germany when she was young.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 11:09:50 GMT -5
Just for the record 5'8 is actually short for a model. I know IRL it is tall, but most models are over 6 feet. I also like to watch Project Runway and have listened to Heidi Klum talk about how she is short for a model but made it because she won a contest in Germany when she was young. she just turned 12 in March, so she will most likely get taller. Is that right? When do girls stop growing in height? Could someone talk about the money available? Not if she is a super model, but just does some stuff for fun. Is there much money there? Again I am just curious. Thanks
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Post by alabamagal on Aug 2, 2015 12:01:16 GMT -5
I was 5'10" at age 12 and stopped there. My friend was 6' at age 12. Seems to me most girls that are tall grow early and then stop.
It is hard to predict when growth will stop.
Actually doctors can tell with an X-ray of areas where there are growth plates. When DS was 6'1" and 17 he had injury and doctor told us he was not through growing. He is now 20 and over 6'3" and may have stopped.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 12:09:56 GMT -5
Does she have boobs yet? Get her period?
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Post by busymom on Aug 2, 2015 12:29:52 GMT -5
A former coworker of mine had a daughter who did some modeling. It was expensive to get things started, as, for example, she needed a professional photo shoot done. And, yes, you do have to work with an agency. She got in some local ads here, & did a few fashion shows in our home state, but I don't think she ever made enough money to make it worthwhile.
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 2, 2015 12:47:47 GMT -5
That's why you need to be discovered as opposed to go looking for it. DS made almost 9k before he got bored. Bought his first car with it. DD supplemented her expenses during undergrad. She can't do anything for money right now because the rules of PA school are no outside employment so she's getting "stuff" instead of money.
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Post by hoops902 on Aug 3, 2015 13:25:22 GMT -5
Just for the record 5'8 is actually short for a model. I know IRL it is tall, but most models are over 6 feet. I also like to watch Project Runway and have listened to Heidi Klum talk about how she is short for a model but made it because she won a contest in Germany when she was young. She's 12, 5'8" is tall. Most models are not over 6 feet. Not even most high fashion models are over 6 feet (and high fashion models are a very very small subset of models).
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Aug 3, 2015 14:12:59 GMT -5
Most of the things you'll see advertised are scams.
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Post by cael on Aug 3, 2015 14:35:30 GMT -5
I feel like you need to have a unique look to be noticed these days, you need the right personality and attitude, the right agent, all those things. And I feel like it's a ton of disappointment, scams, going to tons of auditions you never get callbacks for, and chasing people around in the beginning to try and get anywhere. It sounds like a rough thing on a kid unless they reeeeeally, really want it and handle all the turmoil well. And I feel like the money is probably peanuts for the work you have to put into it until/unless you catch a big break/get noticed by someone big/are super talented. None of this is from personal experience, just anecdotal from what I've been told and read. My mom did some live modeling in Hawaii when she was a teenager (not sure what it's called, she did photos and modeled in-store for places?) - she was short and rail thin but had long red hair she ironed, so her look was unique enough that they wanted her in HI. (she didn't pursue it, I think my grandmother pushed her into it) Her super 60s-70s head shot is a hoot though.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Aug 3, 2015 14:36:15 GMT -5
all you need is a webcam and an internet connection.
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Post by The Captain on Aug 3, 2015 15:00:58 GMT -5
Thank you Robert not Bobby! Why anyone would want to encourage someone they care about to go into such a field is beyond me. Yea, let's tell our children it all about their looks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 15:04:26 GMT -5
Is pretty, slim and tall enough? She is smart and confident and all that? 5'8" at 12 years old, is a size 0. Could she make some money or are there tons of girls like that? I am just curious.
I think the proper response to that is **** ***.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Aug 3, 2015 15:05:18 GMT -5
I think the proper response to that is **** ***. ROFL.
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Aug 3, 2015 15:32:05 GMT -5
Some people get incredibly lucky. Willa Holland was allegedly discovered by her step-father's neighbor, Steven Spielberg, before she was 10. I feel like I know girls who are much prettier, with great poise and presence. They will never get that chance.
Zib made some great points. There are so many different kinds of looks out there and depending on your features, your choices are made for you. Do you want to model swim suits? Evening wear? Glasses? Sporting gear? Cars? Tools? Food? Vacations?
I wonder how one gets discovered if one isn't very lucky? Pageants? Theatre? Auditions? I doubt the pay is spectacular if you aren't a rising star with movies and TV under your belt. Yes, there are hundreds of thousands of pretty young girls (getting prettier and younger it seems) who are all competing and will work for just a bit less to "get their big break". Your 12 year old might be competing against girls who already have 5 years experience!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 15:34:14 GMT -5
Some people get incredibly lucky. Willa Holland was allegedly discovered by her step-father's neighbor, Steven Spielberg, before she was 10. I feel like I know girls who are much prettier, with great poise and presence. They will never get that chance. Zib made some great points. There are so many different kinds of looks out there and depending on your features, your choices are made for you. Do you want to model swim suits? Evening wear? Glasses? Sporting gear? Cars? Tools? Food? Vacations? I wonder how one gets discovered if one isn't very lucky? Pageants? Theatre? Auditions? I doubt the pay is spectacular if you aren't a rising star with movies and TV under your belt. Yes, there are hundreds of thousands of pretty young girls (getting prettier and younger it seems) who are all competing and will work for just a bit less to "get their big break". Your 12 year old might be competing against girls who already have 5 years experience! second moderator here who just skips over insults. eta: actually the first to just skip over it, the other moderator endorsed the insult.
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Post by The Captain on Aug 3, 2015 15:43:09 GMT -5
Some people get incredibly lucky. Willa Holland was allegedly discovered by her step-father's neighbor, Steven Spielberg, before she was 10. I feel like I know girls who are much prettier, with great poise and presence. They will never get that chance. Zib made some great points. There are so many different kinds of looks out there and depending on your features, your choices are made for you. Do you want to model swim suits? Evening wear? Glasses? Sporting gear? Cars? Tools? Food? Vacations? I wonder how one gets discovered if one isn't very lucky? Pageants? Theatre? Auditions? I doubt the pay is spectacular if you aren't a rising star with movies and TV under your belt. Yes, there are hundreds of thousands of pretty young girls (getting prettier and younger it seems) who are all competing and will work for just a bit less to "get their big break". Your 12 year old might be competing against girls who already have 5 years experience! second moderator here who just skips over insults. eta: actually the first to just skip over it, the other moderator endorsed the insult. Actually I endorsed the general tone of the message. I didn't even zone in on the insult. If you have a problem with how you are treated, there is a little thing called a report button. Rather than being passive aggressive you may want to consider using it. However, don't worry about this time - I've already self-reported and saved you the trouble. You're welcome. This is what I endorsed. But go ahead and make it all about you.
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