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Post by Opti on Jul 27, 2015 18:01:18 GMT -5
Yay! He's not going to make it.
Its official, best news of the day.
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Post by Malarky on Jul 27, 2015 18:07:32 GMT -5
No. Thanks for asking. I appreciate that he is bringing a number of issues to the public's attention. Should he actually be president? Ummm....no. Doesn't have the qualifications in my eyes. If he goes independent, splits the vote and Hilary wins...it will be the last eight painful years all over again.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2015 18:52:27 GMT -5
I was thinking of this today. I think Trump would be a terrible president. I think he is full of himself and probably not very truthful. I think he would be as good as most of the other candidates though.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 27, 2015 19:02:33 GMT -5
i can imagine Hillary doing fairly well against any debater. she is quite skilled at it, and rarely gets frazzled. as to the assertion made about socialism, i think the author here is just repeating unchallenged ideas. China is the most socialist country out there other than North Korea, and they are doing quite well by most measures. if you prefer something more Western to compare to, try Denmark and Finland, both of which are thriving. the latter has the top schools in the world and pays all the way through college. i dunno. we gotta stop saying stupid shit if we want to ever have an honest debate. but clearly the dude in the OP doesn't want to have one.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2015 19:08:29 GMT -5
No. Thanks for asking. I appreciate that he is bringing a number of issues to the public's attention. Should he actually be president? Ummm....no. Doesn't have the qualifications in my eyes. If he goes independent, splits the vote and Hilary wins...it will be the last eight painful years all over again. If he drops out and Jeb wins... it will be the last eight painful years all over again. Bush, Hillary what's the difference? About the same as the other Bush and Obama.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2015 19:18:13 GMT -5
I think Trump would be terrible, but I think he would be different. I think Hillary or another Bush would be terrible. I think they would be more of the same wars, more of the same borrowing to spend on what they are told to spend on, more government in health care issue etc. Trump would probably be the same. Jeb or Hillary certainly will be. I think Trump is a joke, sad that a joke might be better.
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Post by Malarky on Jul 27, 2015 19:18:23 GMT -5
Jeb Nooooooo!!!!!!! Early days, I'm really hoping for a better option. I feel pretty confident I won't be voting Democrat. I'm a registered Independent.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2015 19:20:35 GMT -5
Jeb Nooooooo!!!!!!! Early days, I'm really hoping for a better option. I feel pretty confident I won't be voting Democrat. I'm a registered Independent. Republicans and Democrats are just slightly different parts of the same big party.
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Post by Shooby on Jul 27, 2015 19:24:24 GMT -5
President Trump? I like it!
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Post by Shooby on Jul 27, 2015 19:25:28 GMT -5
I was thinking of this today. I think Trump would be a terrible president. I think he is full of himself and probably not very truthful. I think he would be as good as most of the other candidates though. OMG! Seriously? As opposed to who? Obama or Shillary? Wow.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 27, 2015 19:34:17 GMT -5
I was thinking of this today. I think Trump would be a terrible president. I think he is full of himself and probably not very truthful. I think he would be as good as most of the other candidates though. OMG! Seriously? As opposed to who? Obama or Shillary? Wow. did you mean Bush, because Obama isn't running.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 27, 2015 19:39:30 GMT -5
No. Thanks for asking. I appreciate that he is bringing a number of issues to the public's attention. Should he actually be president? Ummm....no. Doesn't have the qualifications in my eyes. If he goes independent, splits the vote and Hilary wins...it will be the last eight painful years all over again. I'm not so sure. My questions center mainly around his recent professed conversion to the conservative cause.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 27, 2015 19:43:56 GMT -5
I think Trump would be terrible, but I think he would be different. I think Hillary or another Bush would be terrible. I think they would be more of the same wars, more of the same borrowing to spend on what they are told to spend on, more government in health care issue etc. Trump would probably be the same. Jeb or Hillary certainly will be. I think Trump is a joke, sad that a joke might be better. I think Trump would scare the piss out of our enemies. That typically leads to not war. One of his more consistent positions- against the wars. Also one of the things I like about him. You can be anti-war without being a .
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Post by Opti on Jul 27, 2015 20:04:32 GMT -5
I think Trump would be terrible, but I think he would be different. I think Hillary or another Bush would be terrible. I think they would be more of the same wars, more of the same borrowing to spend on what they are told to spend on, more government in health care issue etc. Trump would probably be the same. Jeb or Hillary certainly will be. I think Trump is a joke, sad that a joke might be better. I think Trump would scare the piss out of our enemies. That typically leads to not war. One of his more consistent positions- against the wars. Also one of the things I like about him. You can be anti-war without being a . Or very much leads to war. I think ISIS scares the piss out of a lot of people. That is unfortunately why the US seems to be getting involved with stopping them. There are many cases in history where someone who is scary or has a scary regime actually inspires war, actually causes alliances to happen. World War II, The former Yugoslavia are just a couple that come to mind. ISIS will be in that list soon.
And I think Trump would likely be assassinated in the unlikely event he did get elected. Unlike the supposed drug lord, they would not announce, they would just do. MO.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2015 20:23:24 GMT -5
Trump couldn't be any worse than Obama.
Knows how to spend more than is made... check! Knows how to blame the other people... check! Knows how to lie... check! Knows how to bamboozle the general voting population... check!
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 27, 2015 21:07:13 GMT -5
Trump couldn't be any worse than Obama. Knows how to spend more than is made... check! Knows how to blame the other people... check! Knows how to lie... check! Knows how to bamboozle the general voting population... check! which president in the last (10) is unqualified by those standards?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 27, 2015 21:12:00 GMT -5
I think Trump would be terrible, but I think he would be different. I think Hillary or another Bush would be terrible. I think they would be more of the same wars, more of the same borrowing to spend on what they are told to spend on, more government in health care issue etc. Trump would probably be the same. Jeb or Hillary certainly will be. I think Trump is a joke, sad that a joke might be better. I think Trump would scare the piss out of our enemies. That typically leads to not war. One of his more consistent positions- against the wars. Also one of the things I like about him. You can be anti-war without being a .
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 27, 2015 21:22:38 GMT -5
... I think Trump would scare the piss out of our enemies. That typically leads to not war. One of his more consistent positions- against the wars. Also one of the things I like about him. You can be anti-war without being a . “I say that you can defeat ISIS by taking their wealth,” Trump told the Fox News Channel star. “Take back the oil. Once you go over and take back that oil, they have nothing. You bomb the hell out of them, and then you encircle it, and then you go in. And you let Mobil go in, and you let our great oil companies go in. Once you take that oil, they have nothing left.”
He continued: “I would hit them so hard. I would find you a proper general, I would find the Patton or MacArthur. I would hit them so hard your head would spin.”
deadline.com/2015/06/donald-trump-isis-bill-oreilly-jeb-bush-hillary-clinton-video-1201445840/
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2015 21:53:53 GMT -5
Trump couldn't be any worse than Obama. Knows how to spend more than is made... check! Knows how to blame the other people... check! Knows how to lie... check! Knows how to bamboozle the general voting population... check! which president in the last (10) is unqualified by those standards? In fairness, in THIS CASE ONLY, I was comparing Trump to the current office holder (Obama), I was not saying any others have been exempt from those categories.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 27, 2015 22:20:42 GMT -5
... I think Trump would scare the piss out of our enemies. That typically leads to not war. One of his more consistent positions- against the wars. Also one of the things I like about him. You can be anti-war without being a . “I say that you can defeat ISIS by taking their wealth,” Trump told the Fox News Channel star. “Take back the oil. Once you go over and take back that oil, they have nothing. You bomb the hell out of them, and then you encircle it, and then you go in. And you let Mobil go in, and you let our great oil companies go in. Once you take that oil, they have nothing left.”
He continued: “I would hit them so hard. I would find you a proper general, I would find the Patton or MacArthur. I would hit them so hard your head would spin.”
deadline.com/2015/06/donald-trump-isis-bill-oreilly-jeb-bush-hillary-clinton-video-1201445840/ My guess is that his attitude would make what wars we had short and simple- and far more costly for our enemies than for us. The one thing I agree with him on in general is that we've got idiots running the country. They aren't smart. They're getting rolled. It's time for us to stand up to our enemies and let them know we mean business ala Reagan.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 27, 2015 22:27:20 GMT -5
In fact, Trump or no Trump- Obama has put the Democratic Party back where it was with people like McGovern and Carter leading it. Clinton damn near did the impossible restoring people's faith in the Democratic Party on national defense. That's gone now. They may never get it back. Democrats used to have some sense on immigration, too-- it was mainly populist claptrap for the unions, but now- they've completely sold out to the lobbyists and corporate interests in DC along with the GOP. The young, hip, smart lib tech peeps love the H1B Visa indentured servitude and the Dems of course want votes. The GOP of course likes their cheap labor, too. And both parties would sell us all down the river for a dollar and a vote. I like what Trump has to say on immigration. The man is not an idiot, and if you get past what both parties and the special interests say he said- to what he's ACTUALLY saying-- he wants to make the immigration process a lot easier and simpler (for those that we actually want) and tougher for the dregs to slip on by and suck up welfare. With rare exception, the truth is- everyone agrees with Trump on this.
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 27, 2015 22:32:50 GMT -5
... It's time for us to stand up to our enemies and let them know we mean business ala Reagan. You mean like this?: 1982 - President Ronald Reagan sends Marines to Lebanon on a peacekeeping mission.
October 23, 1983 - At 6:22 am, a truck carrying 2000 pounds of explosives drives into the Marine compound in Beirut, Lebanon and crashes into the 1st Battalion, 8th Marine Regimental Battalion Landing Team barracks.
February 1984 - U.S. troops withdraw from Lebanon.
www.cnn.com/2013/06/13/world/meast/beirut-marine-barracks-bombing-fast-facts/ Or maybe you been Grenada?
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Post by busymom on Jul 27, 2015 22:42:03 GMT -5
I can't imagine Trump getting the nod from the Republican Party. He won't play the "party game". Trump strikes me as the type who only wants to play by his own rules.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 27, 2015 23:23:37 GMT -5
Really? Bernie Sanders wants the state to own all means of production? How utterly idiotic! I do wish some people would understand what socialism really is. Do you consider Canada to be a failed country? Americans call us "socialist" all the time.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 27, 2015 23:54:22 GMT -5
I think Trump would be terrible, but I think he would be different. I think Hillary or another Bush would be terrible. I think they would be more of the same wars, more of the same borrowing to spend on what they are told to spend on, more government in health care issue etc. Trump would probably be the same. Jeb or Hillary certainly will be. I think Trump is a joke, sad that a joke might be better. I think Trump would scare the piss out of our enemies. in the sense that Ahmadinejad did? yes, i am sure he would. the world is RIGHTFULLY scared of people all too itchy to push the button. the difference between you and i is that you see this as a GOOD thing.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 27, 2015 23:55:16 GMT -5
Really? Bernie Sanders wants the state to own all means of production? How utterly idiotic! I do wish some people would understand what socialism really is. Do you consider Canada to be a failed country? Americans call us "socialist" all the time.
i read an article today which identified Canada as the 5th most successful country on the "socialist" spectrum. i found it rather hilarious.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 27, 2015 23:56:53 GMT -5
In fact, Trump or no Trump- Obama has put the Democratic Party back where it was with people like McGovern and Carter leading it. Clinton damn near did the impossible restoring people's faith in the Democratic Party on national defense.
Democratic. please stop doing that. it makes you look like a hillbilly.
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