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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 29, 2016 17:26:57 GMT -5
it is shocking how stupid the MSM has been about the delegate process.
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Post by Value Buy on Apr 29, 2016 18:01:26 GMT -5
if he loses the next three races, he will be well below target. of course, Cruz has to ALSO win California, and he is 6% behind right now. Trump is not losing Indiana.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 30, 2016 9:53:40 GMT -5
I saw nothing in you link mentioning Clinton. So why bring her name up?
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 30, 2016 11:05:37 GMT -5
if he loses the next three races, he will be well below target. of course, Cruz has to ALSO win California, and he is 6% behind right now. Trump is not losing Indiana. care to wager on that? you are so sure, you should give ME odds.
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Post by Value Buy on Apr 30, 2016 12:05:27 GMT -5
I will grant you the last poll from somewhere (the Journal Gazette) says Cruz is the winner. It skews your averages that you are so happy to play with. We shall see, won't we? My bet? 48 Delegates to Trump in Indiana.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 1, 2016 2:39:19 GMT -5
I will grant you the last poll from somewhere (the Journal Gazette) says Cruz is the winner. It skews your averages that you are so happy to play with. We shall see, won't we? My bet? 48 Delegates to Trump in Indiana. i'll bet the same for Cruz, as of today. it has nothing to do with polling, tho. it has to do with demographics = who is likely to turn out. what is the weather like up there?
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Post by Value Buy on May 1, 2016 6:40:22 GMT -5
I will grant you the last poll from somewhere (the Journal Gazette) says Cruz is the winner. It skews your averages that you are so happy to play with. We shall see, won't we? My bet? 48 Delegates to Trump in Indiana. i'll bet the same for Cruz, as of today. it has nothing to do with polling, tho. it has to do with demographics = who is likely to turn out. what is the weather like up there? Ninety degrees in the afternoon. high sixties, low seventies at night. Still in Florida due to some personal circumstances. We had to do the absentee ballot thing to vote Tuesday. If you remember when I first discussed Indiana I said Cruz might do well there, because we have enough crazy right wingers to pull him through. I changed my mind because of the demographics. White retired voters are strong primary voter percentage of the total voters. Kick in the fact disillusioned Democrats and Independents can vote in the Republican primary. We are not a closed primary. All they do is ask for the Republican ballot. Since Trump wins big in open primaries, it is a simple win for him. Are you checking out a possible move to France after Trump wins the fall election? Canada not good enough for you?
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Post by Value Buy on May 1, 2016 8:19:53 GMT -5
I wonder if Indiana will be called by the networks for Trump at 7pm upon the immediate closing of the polls on Tuesday?
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Post by OldCoyote on May 1, 2016 8:24:18 GMT -5
If they are not Trump Supporters, they must be for someone else, Like Hillary maybe!
Waving a Mexican flag, great way to show support of America.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 1, 2016 8:53:44 GMT -5
If they are not Trump Supporters, they must be for someone else, Like Hillary maybe! Waving a Mexican flag, great way to show support of America. Do you realize no one reading this thread is going to know what the hell you are mumbling about with the above statement? Probably not.
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Post by Value Buy on May 1, 2016 8:55:25 GMT -5
If they are not Trump Supporters, they must be for someone else, Like Hillary maybe! Waving a Mexican flag, great way to show support of America. Do you realize no one reading this thread is going to know what the hell you are mumbling about with the above statement? Probably not. Well, I understood it. Now I have to figure out whether that is good or bad on my part. I lean towards Old Coyote.
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Post by OldCoyote on May 1, 2016 8:59:07 GMT -5
If they are not Trump Supporters, they must be for someone else, Like Hillary maybe! Waving a Mexican flag, great way to show support of America. Do you realize no one reading this thread is going to know what the hell you are mumbling about with the above statement? Probably not. Just how many candidates running in Cali,,,, they protesters , rioters, who are they going to vote for if they are not for Trump Bernie maybe, Naaaa. I hope you have a good day Tenn.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 1, 2016 9:07:22 GMT -5
If they are not Trump Supporters, they must be for someone else, Like Hillary maybe! Waving a Mexican flag, great way to show support of America. Can't be Hillary supporters because the protesters are pretty much young people and Hillary is having a problem attracting young people. So try again with your wild-assed speculations. Can Hillary Clinton win without millennials?
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Post by OldCoyote on May 1, 2016 9:07:24 GMT -5
I am just going to throw out this note, If they would have allowed independants votes to vote,
I think Bernie would be ahead of Hillary in the primaries. AZ does not allow independents to vote unless there is an independant running.
Maybe Bernie needs to run as a third party!
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Post by Tennesseer on May 1, 2016 9:10:25 GMT -5
I am just going to throw out this note, If they would have allowed independants votes to vote, I think Bernie would be ahead of Hillary in the primaries. AZ does not allow independents to vote unless there is an independant running. Maybe Bernie needs to run as a third party! You should be more concerned if Trump or Cruz, for some reason, run as a third party.
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Post by OldCoyote on May 1, 2016 9:18:47 GMT -5
If Bernie chose Warren as a V.P. I would really consider voting for them.
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Post by Value Buy on May 1, 2016 9:19:17 GMT -5
I am just going to throw out this note, If they would have allowed independants votes to vote, I think Bernie would be ahead of Hillary in the primaries. AZ does not allow independents to vote unless there is an independant running. Maybe Bernie needs to run as a third party! You should be more concerned if Trump or Cruz, for some reason, run as a third party. I do not think Trump would run as an Independent if he lost the nomination. An honest observation. The point is moot now because he will win the nomination. Of course there is a crazy chance after he wins the nomination, he will go rogue, and announce the Trump party and go independent. Also an honest observation.........
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Post by Value Buy on May 1, 2016 9:19:57 GMT -5
If Bernie chose Warren as a V.P. I would really consider voting for them. Now your just playing with me like dj was yesterday
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Post by OldCoyote on May 1, 2016 9:41:01 GMT -5
If Bernie and Warren could clean up the thieves on Wall St. Wall St. money corrupts more politicians than anything else!
I would consider taking some of the bad that came with it. Like more free stuff,
You know maybe I have been doing this wrong, You like wanting less government in my life,
Maybe I should be holding out both hands just to see just how much free stuff I can get, Free phone, free housing, free food, free public transportation, free internet,
free school while I get training for a job I won't take. Geees, what have I left out here, All of this while hiding my assets, Holding up a sign at an intersection will work for food, God bless, With my new Mercedes just around the corner. Thats the ticket!!
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Post by billisonboard on May 1, 2016 9:45:59 GMT -5
Do you mean vote in primaries which select an individual to represent a particular political party? If there are multiple individuals running with no party affiliation, does only the top vote getter with no party affiliation appear on the general election ballot?
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Post by resolution on May 1, 2016 9:51:50 GMT -5
I'll give you this; there is some truth to what you say. The Donald has run a most nontraditional campaign that flummoxed the competition, and no doubt he will do something similar (but more "Presidential") with Hillary. It will be interesting, maybe even fascinating to see.
I still don't see how he beats all of his negatives. I still see Hillary clocking him. But then, every Republican challenger said the same thing. Again, it could be an amazing race. :~) One potential way for him to win is if the FBI comes out with criminal charges for Hillary after she has become the official nominee.
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Post by billisonboard on May 1, 2016 9:52:15 GMT -5
... Maybe Bernie needs to run as a third party! Is there a particular political party that you think he should "run as"? Political parties nominate a person to run representing them. If a person simply places themselves up as a candidate, they are running as an independent, i.e. not connected to any political party.
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Post by OldCoyote on May 1, 2016 10:05:41 GMT -5
If you live in AZ you can only vote for the party you are registered with, So if you are registered as an independent, you will only be given a ballot with Independent candidates, you cannot vote for the demo, repo, green, red or blue candidates. But only in AZ, Being sued for voter fraud, it is amazing that many people that were registered democrats were changed to independent. Accidentally of course.
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Post by resolution on May 1, 2016 10:13:23 GMT -5
If you live in AZ you can only vote for the party you are registered with, So if you are registered as an independent, you will only be given a ballot with Independent candidates, you cannot vote for the demo, repo, green, red or blue candidates. But only in AZ, Being sued for voter fraud, it is amazing that many people that were registered democrats were changed to independent. Accidentally of course. Same thing happened in NY, but I don't think the court cases will retroactively change the outcome.
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Post by billisonboard on May 1, 2016 10:21:20 GMT -5
If you live in AZ you can only vote for the party you are registered with, So if you are registered as an independent, you will only be given a ballot with Independent candidates, you cannot vote for the demo, repo, green, red or blue candidates. ... So does only the top vote getter of those who have announced they are running with no political party affiliation appear on the general election ballot, thus making them the "Independent" candidate?
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Post by OldCoyote on May 1, 2016 10:30:45 GMT -5
Apparently (without actually knowing) the candidate has to declare a party affiliation.
I know my ballot had the Republican printed on it, Just repo candidates, including all of those that had dropped out!
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Post by resolution on May 1, 2016 10:42:41 GMT -5
They have had a few people that are strictly independent, like Ralph Nader showed up on the general election ballot about 12 years ago. Mostly it is Rep, Dem, Green, Lib, Reform and Constitution parties though.
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