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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 22, 2016 13:41:59 GMT -5
I don't think you ( movingforward ) have a firm grasp of just where the Democratic Party is. Here's a little reality check for you: Republicans are in full control of 24 states- governors, and both legislative chambers Republicans are in control of 70 of the nation's 99 legislative chambers Republicans control both chambers in 30 states, plus Nebraska's single-chamber legislature Republicans control 31 governor's mansions Republicans have gained control of over 910 state legislative seats, 14 US Senate seats, 69 US House seats, and 12 governorships- more than 1,000 elected offices of one kind or another. No wonder Democrats love the Obama job-approval polls- sounds a lot better to say he's got a 56% job approval rating in some poll than to point to his record and the real political fallout of the Obama reign. So, all of that gets us to where we are now. Sprinkle in a little Clinton fatigue. And let us not forget the odds of a party holding the White House for a third consecutive term. Since 1828, Democrats have succeeded in doing this only twice and once was when Roosevelt won an unprecedented third term before the Constitution was amended. In fact, Democrats have failed in four of their last five attempts to hold on for a third term. And as Donald Trump pointed out last night, the Republicans saw a 60% increase in voters during the last primary cycle while Democrats saw a 20% decrease, and yes, Nate Silver-- primary turnout will matter. Add to this something I'm sure you don't want to think too much about, but Trump's speech last night was a grand slam home run... finance.yahoo.com/news/instant-poll-trumps-speech-hit-052004293.htmlThe plan to run against Trump? Gin up fear. Try to scare the crap out of enough voters that they will set aside their desire to live in law and order and peace in their neighborhoods with a good job aside and vote for some stuffed suit, crooked ass establishment politician from the old order to protect them? HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA! And who's allegedly "afraid" of Trump? Climate catastrophists and fracknophobes, safe space hypochondriacs, the tough guy gangsta gangbangers, black panther wannabes and fake failed males are shitting their pants, terrified of Trump because he'll enforce the laws, and the Democratic Party that depends for its very existence on inflaming fears about victimization, persecution, exploitation, household chemicals and micro aggressions. ISIS and illegal aliens are killing us, right here in our country, but eco Calvinist hysterics think climate change is more important than whether their family lives or dies at the hands of determined killers. Libs don't love themselves or their families. They can't love. They're too busy creating imaginary crises and grievances.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 22, 2016 13:58:35 GMT -5
Lol! America is a crime-ridden hellhole! I'll protect you! The illegals are here to kill you! The Mexicans come here to rape you! I'll build a wall! The Syrian refugees are here to butcher you! I'll ban them! Iran's going to blow us off the face of the earth! I'll stop them! China is stealing our jobs!!The left appeases our enemies! No more! It's a dark and dangerous world! The gays are destroying society! SSM must be repealed!"
Who is ginning up fear, again? It aint the left, honey. But nice try!
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 22, 2016 14:23:21 GMT -5
Lol! America is a crime-ridden hellhole! I'll protect you! The illegals are here to kill you! The Mexicans come here to rape you! I'll build a wall! The Syrian refugees are here to butcher you! I'll ban them! Iran's going to blow us off the face of the earth! I'll stop them! China is stealing our jobs!!The left appeases our enemies! No more! It's a dark and dangerous world! The gays are destroying society! SSM must be repealed!" Who is ginning up fear, again? It aint the left, honey. But nice try! Um, I'll return you to my original statement: Democrats fundamentally believe, and propagate a message that America was built by slaves for rich white people; that in America today is still a place where racism, sexism, bigotry, homophobia, and hatred of anyone who is not a white male of European ancestry still poses an ever-present threat to minorities. America has a "rape culture" which looks the other way when women are assaulted. Law abiding young black men cannot walk America's streets without the threat of racist cops murdering them for no reason. But you know...Trump "painted a dark picture of America" last night..
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 22, 2016 14:28:34 GMT -5
Wasn't it?
Isn't it?
Doesn't it? Look at what happens when it's the star football player who does the raping.
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Post by Opti on Jul 22, 2016 14:28:41 GMT -5
Lol! America is a crime-ridden hellhole! I'll protect you! The illegals are here to kill you! The Mexicans come here to rape you! I'll build a wall! The Syrian refugees are here to butcher you! I'll ban them! Iran's going to blow us off the face of the earth! I'll stop them! China is stealing our jobs!!The left appeases our enemies! No more! It's a dark and dangerous world! The gays are destroying society! SSM must be repealed!" Who is ginning up fear, again? It aint the left, honey. But nice try! Um, I'll return you to my original statement: Democrats fundamentally believe, and propagate a message that America was built by slaves for rich white people; that in America today is still a place where racism, sexism, bigotry, homophobia, and hatred of anyone who is not a white male of European ancestry still poses an ever-present threat to minorities. America has a "rape culture" which looks the other way when women are assaulted. Law abiding young black men cannot walk America's streets without the threat of racist cops murdering them for no reason. But you know...Trump "painted a dark picture of America" last night.. That is some of the most amazing BS. I can see how you can go all mole hill into Mt. Everest and kind a get there. But damn. And a poster tried to best Trump at scare-o-vision.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 22, 2016 14:29:16 GMT -5
Grated it's getting a little better, but you're not there yet.
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Post by happyhoix on Jul 22, 2016 14:54:32 GMT -5
Lol! America is a crime-ridden hellhole! I'll protect you! The illegals are here to kill you! The Mexicans come here to rape you! I'll build a wall! The Syrian refugees are here to butcher you! I'll ban them! Iran's going to blow us off the face of the earth! I'll stop them! China is stealing our jobs!!The left appeases our enemies! No more! It's a dark and dangerous world! The gays are destroying society! SSM must be repealed!" Who is ginning up fear, again? It aint the left, honey. But nice try! Um, I'll return you to my original statement: Democrats fundamentally believe, and propagate a message that America was built by slaves for rich white people; that in America today is still a place where racism, sexism, bigotry, homophobia, and hatred of anyone who is not a white male of European ancestry still poses an ever-present threat to minorities. America has a "rape culture" which looks the other way when women are assaulted. Law abiding young black men cannot walk America's streets without the threat of racist cops murdering them for no reason. But you know...Trump "painted a dark picture of America" last night.. Wait until the Dems have their convention next week. They will be cheerleading the great USA, projecting how much greater we can become, calling for the empowerment of all our citizens to reach their full potential and to not live in fear and want, yadda yadda yadda. It's what all Conventions, of both parties, have always done since they first had conventions.
Not Trump. For the first time very, the GOP convention tried to frighten and threaten people into voting for Trump if you know what's best for you!!!! When the speakers weren't talking about how Hillary is like Lucifer, they were predicting rioting in the streets, Muslims burning your house down. Mexicans stealing your car and raping your wife. But if Trump gets elected HE WILL MAKE AMERICA SAFE AGAIN.
I have news for you - our country isn't the shit hole Trump claims it is. And should Hillary get elected, it won't mean the end of society. Just the 1% having to pay more in taxes.
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Post by happyhoix on Jul 22, 2016 14:55:56 GMT -5
This is true.
But so far, the GOP hasn't run someone who is the doppleganger for Il Duce.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 22, 2016 15:06:09 GMT -5
Um, I'll return you to my original statement: Democrats fundamentally believe, and propagate a message that America was built by slaves for rich white people; that in America today is still a place where racism, sexism, bigotry, homophobia, and hatred of anyone who is not a white male of European ancestry still poses an ever-present threat to minorities. America has a "rape culture" which looks the other way when women are assaulted. Law abiding young black men cannot walk America's streets without the threat of racist cops murdering them for no reason. But you know...Trump "painted a dark picture of America" last night.. Wait until the Dems have their convention next week. They will be cheerleading the great USA, projecting how much greater we can become, calling for the empowerment of all our citizens to reach their full potential and to not live in fear and want, yadda yadda yadda. It's what all Conventions, of both parties, have always done since they first had conventions.
Not Trump. For the first time very, the GOP convention tried to frighten and threaten people into voting for Trump if you know what's best for you!!!! When the speakers weren't talking about how Hillary is like Lucifer, they were predicting rioting in the streets, Muslims burning your house down. Mexicans stealing your car and raping your wife. But if Trump gets elected HE WILL MAKE AMERICA SAFE AGAIN.
I have news for you - our country isn't the shit hole Trump claims it is. And should Hillary get elected, it won't mean the end of society. Just the 1% having to pay more in taxes.
It's going to be positive and uplifting. Not doom and gloom and fear.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 22, 2016 15:08:39 GMT -5
....and they probably won't be selling really offensive buttons and posters.
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Post by Value Buy on Jul 22, 2016 15:09:04 GMT -5
Um, I'll return you to my original statement: Democrats fundamentally believe, and propagate a message that America was built by slaves for rich white people; that in America today is still a place where racism, sexism, bigotry, homophobia, and hatred of anyone who is not a white male of European ancestry still poses an ever-present threat to minorities. America has a "rape culture" which looks the other way when women are assaulted. Law abiding young black men cannot walk America's streets without the threat of racist cops murdering them for no reason. But you know...Trump "painted a dark picture of America" last night.. Wait until the Dems have their convention next week. They will be cheerleading the great USA, projecting how much greater we can become, calling for the empowerment of all our citizens to reach their full potential and to not live in fear and want, yadda yadda yadda. It's what all Conventions, of both parties, have always done since they first had conventions.
Not Trump. For the first time very, the GOP convention tried to frighten and threaten people into voting for Trump if you know what's best for you!!!! When the speakers weren't talking about how Hillary is like Lucifer, they were predicting rioting in the streets, Muslims burning your house down. Mexicans stealing your car and raping your wife. But if Trump gets elected HE WILL MAKE AMERICA SAFE AGAIN.
I have news for you - our country isn't the shit hole Trump claims it is. And should Hillary get elected, it won't mean the end of society. Just the 1% having to pay more in taxes.
I suggest you start your own "No, really: President Hillary Clinton-Get used to it" thread. 1% pay more taxes, and we get......... Free University! Free Healthcare! Bigger banks screwing everyday people World War III
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Post by Value Buy on Jul 22, 2016 15:10:13 GMT -5
....and they probably won't be selling really offensive buttons and posters. Like the ones in the demonstration area in Cleveland?
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Post by movingforward on Jul 22, 2016 15:14:39 GMT -5
I am beginning to think that show "Brain Dead" is really true.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 22, 2016 15:15:11 GMT -5
....and they probably won't be selling really offensive buttons and posters. Like the ones in the demonstration area in Cleveland? Now, which buttons would those be? Did they say anything like "KFC Two small breasts, fat thighs, left wing, with a picture of Hillary on it?
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Jul 22, 2016 15:22:29 GMT -5
There will be lots of buttons and signs. All the same groups with Hillary's name replacing Trumps. I just found out the fact behind the white elevator sign at Trump's convention. It wasn't racist.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 22, 2016 15:27:57 GMT -5
I am beginning to think that show "Brain Dead" is really true. That's a good show.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 22, 2016 15:57:59 GMT -5
Um, I'll return you to my original statement: Democrats fundamentally believe, and propagate a message that America was built by slaves for rich white people; that in America today is still a place where racism, sexism, bigotry, homophobia, and hatred of anyone who is not a white male of European ancestry still poses an ever-present threat to minorities. America has a "rape culture" which looks the other way when women are assaulted. Law abiding young black men cannot walk America's streets without the threat of racist cops murdering them for no reason. But you know...Trump "painted a dark picture of America" last night.. Wait until the Dems have their convention next week. They will be cheerleading the great USA, projecting how much greater we can become, calling for the empowerment of all our citizens to reach their full potential and to not live in fear and want, yadda yadda yadda. It's what all Conventions, of both parties, have always done since they first had conventions.
Not Trump. For the first time very, the GOP convention tried to frighten and threaten people into voting for Trump if you know what's best for you!!!! When the speakers weren't talking about how Hillary is like Lucifer, they were predicting rioting in the streets, Muslims burning your house down. Mexicans stealing your car and raping your wife. But if Trump gets elected HE WILL MAKE AMERICA SAFE AGAIN.
I have news for you - our country isn't the shit hole Trump claims it is. And should Hillary get elected, it won't mean the end of society. Just the 1% having to pay more in taxes.
I love all this Democrats are not the party of fear. That's ALL they are. The Taliban platform? No rational person thinks that. Just as no rational person thinks things are getting better, or will get better on the path we're on. That's why 70% of Americans agree the country is headed in the wrong direction and 65% of those same voters think Trump is the candidate most likely to bring about change. Hope and change ya'll. Make America Great again. Of course there's the pocket 7 million voters (Monster Vote) which aren't even considered in any polling...
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 22, 2016 16:03:29 GMT -5
Wait until the Dems have their convention next week. They will be cheerleading the great USA, projecting how much greater we can become, calling for the empowerment of all our citizens to reach their full potential and to not live in fear and want, yadda yadda yadda. It's what all Conventions, of both parties, have always done since they first had conventions.
Not Trump. For the first time very, the GOP convention tried to frighten and threaten people into voting for Trump if you know what's best for you!!!! When the speakers weren't talking about how Hillary is like Lucifer, they were predicting rioting in the streets, Muslims burning your house down. Mexicans stealing your car and raping your wife. But if Trump gets elected HE WILL MAKE AMERICA SAFE AGAIN.
I have news for you - our country isn't the shit hole Trump claims it is. And should Hillary get elected, it won't mean the end of society. Just the 1% having to pay more in taxes.
I love all this Democrats are not the party of fear. That's ALL they are. The Taliban platform? No rational person thinks that. Just as no rational person thinks things are getting better, or will get better on the path we're on. That's why 70% of Americans agree the country is headed in the wrong direction and 65% of those same voters think Trump is the candidate most likely to bring about change. Hope and change ya'll. Make America Great again. Of course there's the pocket 7 million voters (Monster Vote) which aren't even considered in any polling... this has been going on for 60 years. both parties do it. Democrats are late to the game, tho. conservatives started it. neoconservatives, to be precise.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 22, 2016 16:07:34 GMT -5
Lol! 65% of ALL voters or 65% of Republican voters?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 22, 2016 16:37:13 GMT -5
I love all this Democrats are not the party of fear. That's ALL they are. The Taliban platform? No rational person thinks that. Just as no rational person thinks things are getting better, or will get better on the path we're on. That's why 70% of Americans agree the country is headed in the wrong direction and 65% of those same voters think Trump is the candidate most likely to bring about change. Hope and change ya'll. Make America Great again. Of course there's the pocket 7 million voters (Monster Vote) which aren't even considered in any polling... this has been going on for 60 years. both parties do it. Democrats are late to the game, tho. conservatives started it. neoconservatives, to be precise. Seriously? That's what you're gonna go with? "conservatives started it"?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 22, 2016 16:38:25 GMT -5
Lol! 65% of ALL voters or 65% of Republican voters?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 22, 2016 16:48:46 GMT -5
The bottom line is this: Trump did exactly what he said he would do. He provided a true state of the union. It was accurate, and everyone knows it's accurate. If the Democrats do not come up with a credible response to it, they are going to lose in dramatic fashion in November. In fact, I get the sense that Obama has likely re-Carterized the Democratic Party- tax and spend debt and deficit liberalism, foreign policy disasters as far as the eye can see, soft on crime at home- add an open borders non-enforcement invasion and domestic terror attacks which are fairly routine-- and someone who is objectively the single most corrupt person to ever seek the office at the top of the ticket-- the Democrats have their work cut out for them.
If you deny this. If you think none of this must be answered for. You are WRONG.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 22, 2016 16:57:18 GMT -5
The bottom line is this: Trump did exactly what he said he would do. He provided a true state of the union. It was accurate, and everyone knows it's accurate. If the Democrats do not come up with a credible response to it, they are going to lose in dramatic fashion in November. In fact, I get the sense that Obama has likely re-Carterized the democratic party- tax and spend debt and deficit liberalism, foreign policy disasters as far as the eye can see, soft on crime at home- add an open borders non-enforcement invasion and domestic terror attacks which are fairly routine-- and someone who is objectively the single most corrupt person to ever seek the office at the top of the ticket-- the Democrats have their work cut out for them. If you deny this. If you think none of this must be answered for. You are WRONG. FactChecking Trump’s Big SpeechFact-checking Donald Trump’s acceptance speech at the 2016 RNCFact check: Donald Trump’s speech at the Republican National Convention
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 22, 2016 17:08:12 GMT -5
The bottom line is this: Trump did exactly what he said he would do. He provided a true state of the union. It was accurate, and everyone knows it's accurate. If the Democrats do not come up with a credible response to it, they are going to lose in dramatic fashion in November. In fact, I get the sense that Obama has likely re-Carterized the democratic party- tax and spend debt and deficit liberalism, foreign policy disasters as far as the eye can see, soft on crime at home- add an open borders non-enforcement invasion and domestic terror attacks which are fairly routine-- and someone who is objectively the single most corrupt person to ever seek the office at the top of the ticket-- the Democrats have their work cut out for them. If you deny this. If you think none of this must be answered for. You are WRONG. Wow, you really bought into Trump's false talking points. Nicely done! CNN Fact Check: Illegal border crossings at lowest levels in 40 years www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/politics/fact-check-immigration/
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 22, 2016 17:37:16 GMT -5
The bottom line is this: Trump did exactly what he said he would do. He provided a true state of the union. It was accurate, and everyone knows it's accurate. If the Democrats do not come up with a credible response to it, they are going to lose in dramatic fashion in November. In fact, I get the sense that Obama has likely re-Carterized the democratic party- tax and spend debt and deficit liberalism, foreign policy disasters as far as the eye can see, soft on crime at home- add an open borders non-enforcement invasion and domestic terror attacks which are fairly routine-- and someone who is objectively the single most corrupt person to ever seek the office at the top of the ticket-- the Democrats have their work cut out for them. If you deny this. If you think none of this must be answered for. You are WRONG. Wow, you really bought into Trump's false talking points. Nicely done! CNN Fact Check: Illegal border crossings at lowest levels in 40 years www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/politics/fact-check-immigration/It's like Donald ordered Melania be the only one to fact check his speech.
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Post by Opti on Jul 22, 2016 18:16:18 GMT -5
It's like Donald ordered Melania be the only one to fact check his speech. I still think both Donald and Melania knew and just figured it would be OK.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 22, 2016 18:17:20 GMT -5
Our news channels are just abuzz with how much he lied during his speech. His worshippers don't care, because he promised to keep them safe from the boogeyman.
Morons.
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Post by Opti on Jul 22, 2016 18:22:22 GMT -5
I think there's a slogan in there somewhere...
Trump - because the right lies can cradle you to sleep at night
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Post by Value Buy on Jul 22, 2016 19:10:18 GMT -5
It's like Donald ordered Melania be the only one to fact check his speech. I read your CNN fact check. The article reports numbers from 2011 apprehensions, not the number of illegals that came across. The government acts like a University grant program. If x number of apprehensions occur, and there are exactly five (WILD ASS GUESS NUMBER ) other illegals per apprehension we missed, we can tell how many fell through our grasp and escaped out patrols....... from the article: Virginia focus group reacts to SOTU
Virginia focus group reacts to SOTU 04:10
In fiscal year 2011, there were 18,506 U.S. Border Patrol agents in the Southwest Border Sectors -- up steadily from 3,555 agents in 1992, according to Customs and Border Protection figures.
A Pew Research Hispanic Center study finds that Border Patrol apprehensions of all unauthorized immigrants are at their lowest level since 1971. "In spite of (and perhaps because of) increases in the number of U.S. Border Patrol agents, apprehensions of Mexicans trying to cross the border illegally have plummeted in recent years—from more than 1 million in 2005 to 286,000 in 2011—a likely indication that fewer unauthorized migrants are trying to cross," it concluded.
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Pew estimates that net migration -- newly arrived immigrants minus those leaving (forced or voluntarily) -- has come to a standstill, which it attributes to the weakened U.S. job and construction markets, border enforcement, an increase in deportations, and increased dangers associated with crossing the border.
In all, there were 327,577 illegal immigrant apprehensions in 2011, according to the U.S. Border Patrol. This is the lowest number since 1972, when there were 321,326. According to the Department of Homeland Security, the 2011 figure is a 53% drop from 2008, which it says indicates that fewer people are trying to cross the border.
The figures can be tough to interpret. Often, the same person is caught more than once, "and then the flip side of that phenomenon is there's no way of knowing how many you missed counting, how many do get through," said Dan Kowalski, editor of Bender's Immigration Bulletin and an immigration lawyer at the Fowler Law Firm in Austin, Texas. "So, you get what you measure. In other words, you count what you count."
Like some prefer to say, "guess work, in wild ass guess out". They even quote a gentleman who says they have no way of knowing how many they missed. I wonder how accurate the government was even 40 years ago. Don'cha think the illegals and their handlers learn from over the years how to improve their odds of not getting caught on the same path year after year? They adjust.
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