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Post by happyhoix on Jul 5, 2016 8:10:08 GMT -5
Like I wrote above, Trump won the primaries because lower educated whites, who he said love him, were most of the voters. This man bullies people in business deals and that's about all he brings to the race for president. I don't care how much people hate Clinton, but Trump as president will ruin our country if he doesn't get us blown up. He thinks he can use nuclear weapons in the middle East! We should ask him to identify the countries on a map since he doesn't know the geography of a 6th grader. It's always interesting to me to juxtapose fears of what may happen with what has happened. Fearing Trump may get us all killed reveals to me a fascinating lack of fear of a woman and a regime that actually has gotten Americans killed. The hasty withdrawal from Iraq for political expediency surrendered Iraq to ISIS and made Iran the dominate power in the region. Egypt is stable thanks to pure luck-- the Egyptian military leadership had the presence of mind to kick the Muslim Brotherhood out and maintain the peace treaty with Israel (because Egypt has already fucked with Israel and found some shit out- and many in the Egyptian military leadership if they don't know it personally, were trained by those who did). However, Hillary and Obama's policies have led to chaos in the region, set Iran on course to develop a nuclear weapon, have unleashed chemical weapons in Syria, and have led to the rise of ISIS-- and resulted directly in deadly islamic terrorist attacks here on US soil. So, we know for a fact that Lying Crooked Hillary has already gotten Americans killed, and she is committed to more of the same. Trump wants to go kill these people, and break their shit. Why on earth anyone would be afraid of fighting back, but comfortable with surrender to terrorists is truly beyond me. Is your point that 'killing these people and breaking their shit' will NOT result in a large number of American casualties and an enormous drain on our budget?
What you're describing (all out war in the Middle East) sounds exactly like what Bush Jr did, and we all know what that cost us, in money and soldiers.
Unless you believe Trump will use the same magical powers he's going to use to make Mexico build a giant wall for us to force our NATO allies to provide all the soldiers and weapons and shit needed to blast the Middle East back to the stone age? If so, you should consider the opinions that our European allies have expressed about the possibility of a Trump presidency.
Mr Trump loves talking big and making deals. Which is fine for someone who fancies himself to be a real estate mogul. However, should he get elected, he will find himself (and America) without allies, and any fancy plan to eradiate ISIS will be bought and paid for by us, and by American lives. He won't go that route, anymore than he'll actually build the damn wall. Instead, he'll attempt to shut down immigration, kick out all the foreign nationals he can (it will be difficult, without Congress's approval) and flounder around for four years while ISIS uses his campaign videos to raise funds for their terror attacks. He will be a failure.
Not that Hillary will be wonderful. She just won't be as expensive, both in dollars and lives.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 8:39:27 GMT -5
Oh no. We are the only ones who get mad and aggressive when people kill us and break out shit... Everyone else backs down and learns their lesson....
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 5, 2016 11:33:47 GMT -5
Try again. Most people are talking about Trump who has been an elite all of his life. He "earned" his by the birth lottery. Bill and Hillary had to get their degrees and be successful. No loans from the parents or a ready made business of Dad's to step into.
You really don't have much a connection with Joe and Jane regular folk, do you?
You forgot Bill and Hillary's bribes and payoffs for you pay you play. how aware are you of the fact that you changed the subject?
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 5, 2016 11:34:31 GMT -5
You posters are so jealous of Trump, you just can not keep from talking about him and what he has done. ad hominem. legitimate criticism of Trump is not jealousy.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 5, 2016 11:35:28 GMT -5
Quinnipac poll had really interesting numbers this morning. I will not go into to detail here. I want some people here to do their own homework, or wait for dj to give them the news. dj was camping in the woods. do your own analysis.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 5, 2016 11:41:22 GMT -5
Mr. Limbaugh does have some ammunition in his camp this time. Nate Silver has been spectacularly wrong in predicting the rise of Donald Trump. Setting aside the fraudulent ABC poll showing a double digit lead for Lying Crooked Hillary (LCH)-- in which to arrive at their number, they had Hillary TIED with Trump among men (you want to talk about a "gender gap"-- Hillary's male voter deficit is significant) which is, to put it mildly- not probable; here's where things stand in real life: Trump has closed it to within 2% of Hillary nationally in the new Q Poll -- H 42 to T 40. .why do you even care? are you just trying to get under the skin of those who find him annoying, or do you really WANT him to win? and if so, WHY?
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 5, 2016 11:42:11 GMT -5
It was just a South Park quote. Get over it already. Trump. Get over it. I am fast, fast fast, changing my mind about him being elected to the Presidency. This country needs the wake up call. i am sure that many Germans felt the same way in 1932.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 5, 2016 11:44:52 GMT -5
Getting back to the topic at hand, Rasmussen has Trump up 4. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3667913/Trump-Republican-pulls-ahead-Hillary-Clinton-4-points-shock-poll-trailing-5-week-ago.htmlIt is worth mentioning that Rasmussen was incorrect an average of 4.8 points in terms of results in 2012, and missed the Romney v. Obama race by 4 points- the same percentage they now show Trump leading. Having acknowledged that, the SWING is 9 points making this poll uniquely telling in terms of momentum. In other words, I wouldn't look for it to stop on a dime at 4 points ahead after such a dramatic move. Further- and my main point: I honestly don't think the polls matter. I am increasinglyconfident in the Monster Vote theory, and if it is wrong by 10 million voters, it is still a landslide for Trump. Rasmussen has had Trump +4% for six months. so has FOX. i noticed that RCP dropped FOX from their survey recently (don't know why- but the fact that they are a full 10% out of line with other polls might have something to do with it). Rasmussen sucks, big time. worst "mainstream" pollster out there.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 5, 2016 11:47:07 GMT -5
And Fox has Clinton up 6... And NBC/WSJ polls did their damndest to defeat Trump in the primaries with there polls claiming Trump losing about every state primary election. Fox was mostly against him also, until they saw the writing n the wall. whether FOX has been against him or not, FOX POLLING has shown him ahead for months. you are intimating bias that is not there.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 5, 2016 11:50:59 GMT -5
dj will never accept Rasmussen I am seeing that light at the end of the tunnel a coming! If we assume that Rasmussen is (rounding) 5 points off, and bear in mind there's been a 9 point swing in a matter of weeks, then Hillary leads Trump by 1 point. i am not following you. Rasmussen has never shown Hillary up, therefore the latest result basically shows NO CHANGE. Rasmussen showed a 5% BIAS in the last election- that does not mean that they were off by only that amount. there was one race where they were off by 24% (i think it was the Hawaii senate race). in other words, if you add the 5% bias the standard error (4% with 95% certainty), you will get something i think is REASONABLE to assume, here, which is that Clinton leads Trump by about 5%.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 7, 2016 13:47:46 GMT -5
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Post by happyhoix on Jul 7, 2016 16:11:55 GMT -5
Oh, so a website called the conservative tree house has cooked the books to produce a ground swell of 73,272,592 voters?
Excuse me if I fail to get too excited about that.
Let me know if Slate or Salon start predicting a Trump 'monster vote' landslide.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 8, 2016 14:08:08 GMT -5
Trump wanted a photo-op with the NYC police department today after the murders in Dallas last night. The man truly has no shame. Trump barred from speaking to NYPD officers; Bratton says Dallas tragedy not a photo opThe Donald got nixed. On Friday morning Donald Trump begged the city's top cop to let him speak to a 3 p.m. roll call at the NYPD Midtown North Precinct in the wake of the murders of five Dallas police officers Thursday during a protest over police shooting. But Police Commissioner Bill Bratton strongly rejected the request. "Our interest is staying out of the politics of the moment, and not to provide photo ops," he told reporters. "If Mr. Trump wants to speak to me, I would be happy to brief him on what we’re doing. If Sen. Clinton wants to speak to me, I would very happy to brief her on what we’re doing. But we are not in the business of providing photo ops for our candidates.” Trump barred from speaking to NYPD officers; Bratton says Dallas tragedy not a photo op
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 8, 2016 14:43:42 GMT -5
No shame, no class, no decorum, no humility. He's an empty suit.
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Post by Opti on Jul 8, 2016 16:00:17 GMT -5
He's an insecure man that needs to be in the news to feel worthy. MO.
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Post by dondub on Jul 8, 2016 17:03:46 GMT -5
Small hands and a large bald spot can do that to a man.
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Post by resolution on Jul 8, 2016 18:15:28 GMT -5
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 8, 2016 18:20:51 GMT -5
Just pitiful.
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Post by Opti on Jul 8, 2016 19:02:12 GMT -5
Good clarification. However, this is a problem if this guy is the head of his campaign in any state. He needs to retract his statement or be fired, IMO.
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 8, 2016 19:17:33 GMT -5
Trump owns him. "Corey Stewart is an American politician who is the At-Large Chairman of the Prince William Board of County Supervisors in the Commonwealth of Virginia, where he represents over 450,000 residents. Stewart has a reputation as a fighter for conservative issues, most notably for his 2007 crackdown on illegal immigration, which drew national media attention. In December 2015, Donald Trump announced that he had selected Stewart to chair his presidential campaign in Virginia. In 2016, Stewart announced his intention to run for Governor of Virginia. In December 2015, Republican U.S. Presidential candidate Donald Trump announced that he had chosen Stewart to chair his campaign in Virginia.[6] Stewart has been an outspoken proponent for Trump in national media.[7]" Corey Stewart (politician)
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 8, 2016 19:25:25 GMT -5
Trump’s campaign disavowed the post, issuing a statement through John Fredericks, host of a conservative radio talk show and vice chairman of Trump’s Virginia campaign. I would be more impressed if someone higher up (maybe even Trump himself) instead of someone lower down in campaign hierarchy had disavowed it.
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Post by Icelandic Woman on Jul 8, 2016 19:31:09 GMT -5
Trump wanted a photo-op with the NYC police department today after the murders in Dallas last night. The man truly has no shame. Trump barred from speaking to NYPD officers; Bratton says Dallas tragedy not a photo opThe Donald got nixed. On Friday morning Donald Trump begged the city's top cop to let him speak to a 3 p.m. roll call at the NYPD Midtown North Precinct in the wake of the murders of five Dallas police officers Thursday during a protest over police shooting. But Police Commissioner Bill Bratton strongly rejected the request. "Our interest is staying out of the politics of the moment, and not to provide photo ops," he told reporters. "If Mr. Trump wants to speak to me, I would be happy to brief him on what we’re doing. If Sen. Clinton wants to speak to me, I would very happy to brief her on what we’re doing. But we are not in the business of providing photo ops for our candidates.” Trump barred from speaking to NYPD officers; Bratton says Dallas tragedy not a photo op He will use anything and anyone for publicity. I am glad the NYPD told him to shove it up his ass!
Who hasn't he offended yet? I believe it is a very short list: 1. White men
There aren't enough horrible words in the English language to describe this orange slimeball MF!!
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 8, 2016 19:35:01 GMT -5
It's often said people have short memories. Some individuals may have that problems but groups and classes of people don't.
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 8, 2016 19:45:31 GMT -5
I don't think people will have to remember because new insults will just keep coming.
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Post by Icelandic Woman on Jul 8, 2016 19:47:40 GMT -5
I don't think people will have to remember because new insults will just keep coming. LOL
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Post by weltschmerz on Jul 8, 2016 19:59:13 GMT -5
Riiiight...as opposed to Trump himself, who refused to rent to blacks in his buildings and didn't want them anywhere near his money.
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Post by Value Buy on Jul 9, 2016 6:54:00 GMT -5
As the title of the thread says, get used to it. Sounds like a few of you are starting to realize he might do it, but so far no acceptance of the fact. Weltz might have to move back to Russia, and some of you might actually move to Canada.Just remember, one of his first acts will be invading Canada to remove the socialist government up there on our borders, and make each province a new state.
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Post by Value Buy on Jul 9, 2016 7:17:14 GMT -5
Trump wanted a photo-op with the NYC police department today after the murders in Dallas last night. The man truly has no shame. Trump barred from speaking to NYPD officers; Bratton says Dallas tragedy not a photo opThe Donald got nixed. On Friday morning Donald Trump begged the city's top cop to let him speak to a 3 p.m. roll call at the NYPD Midtown North Precinct in the wake of the murders of five Dallas police officers Thursday during a protest over police shooting. But Police Commissioner Bill Bratton strongly rejected the request. "Our interest is staying out of the politics of the moment, and not to provide photo ops," he told reporters. "If Mr. Trump wants to speak to me, I would be happy to brief him on what we’re doing. If Sen. Clinton wants to speak to me, I would very happy to brief her on what we’re doing. But we are not in the business of providing photo ops for our candidates.” Trump barred from speaking to NYPD officers; Bratton says Dallas tragedy not a photo opWho will get a bump in the polls next week from this assassination of police? Hillary who wants the backing of Black lives matter, or Donald? (trying desperately to keep the thread on topic rather than "I HATE TRUMP" thread.)
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Post by Tennesseer on Jul 9, 2016 7:47:01 GMT -5
Trump wanted a photo-op with the NYC police department today after the murders in Dallas last night. The man truly has no shame. Trump barred from speaking to NYPD officers; Bratton says Dallas tragedy not a photo opThe Donald got nixed. On Friday morning Donald Trump begged the city's top cop to let him speak to a 3 p.m. roll call at the NYPD Midtown North Precinct in the wake of the murders of five Dallas police officers Thursday during a protest over police shooting. But Police Commissioner Bill Bratton strongly rejected the request. "Our interest is staying out of the politics of the moment, and not to provide photo ops," he told reporters. "If Mr. Trump wants to speak to me, I would be happy to brief him on what we’re doing. If Sen. Clinton wants to speak to me, I would very happy to brief her on what we’re doing. But we are not in the business of providing photo ops for our candidates.” Trump barred from speaking to NYPD officers; Bratton says Dallas tragedy not a photo opWho will get a bump in the polls next week from this assassination of police? Hillary who wants the backing of Black lives matter, or Donald? (trying desperately to keep the thread on topic rather than "I HATE TRUMP" thread.) By the very nature of Clinton being a democrat, she has the vast majority of the black vote with or without this Dallas incident. Who do you think the police unions will endorse? Do you think they will endorse someone who tried to use their rank and file for a cheap photo-op?
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