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Post by Tennesseer on May 8, 2015 13:25:50 GMT -5
Fifteen years is probably the max they can be sentenced. Neither will do fifteen years. The female may get five year if that because of her age. She will be out in one month and the rest of her sentence with be probation.
The man may get 5 years because of his previous conviction for drugs. He will be out in two years (if that) and for him too, the rest will be probation.
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Post by happyhoix on May 8, 2015 13:28:23 GMT -5
Not dangerous sex offenders, but dangerously stupid. Couldn't even wait for dark, or find some shrubbery?
I have always advocated turning one of the little used rectangular states into a giant holding pen for dangerously stupid people. Corral them in and let them harm no one but each other.
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Post by billisonboard on May 8, 2015 13:32:00 GMT -5
... dangerously stupid. ... ... Where is the danger in what they were doing?
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Post by The Captain on May 8, 2015 13:33:29 GMT -5
What they did was against the law. I'm sure they were aware of that. The sentencing, however, is (to my mind) ridiculous. A weekend in the pokey and community service would have been fine. 15 years is beyond overkill, IMO. As to placing them on the sex offender list - both were adults. Sex, in and of itself, isn't offensive. Public sex, is illegal, as we've said. Punish that, but neither of these two idiots is a dangerous sex offender as I would define one. I think that's what got them in trouble in the first place... ... just saying.
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Post by Opti on May 8, 2015 13:40:09 GMT -5
It seems some sex offender lists are strange. You'd think it would contain pedophiles and rapists, but it seems to include so much more, at least in the UK. They will be on the list along with the guy who had sex with the mailbox. Its icky, but not a public threat in the way most of us view who should be on sex offender registries.
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Post by mmhmm on May 8, 2015 13:42:22 GMT -5
What they did was against the law. I'm sure they were aware of that. The sentencing, however, is (to my mind) ridiculous. A weekend in the pokey and community service would have been fine. 15 years is beyond overkill, IMO. As to placing them on the sex offender list - both were adults. Sex, in and of itself, isn't offensive. Public sex, is illegal, as we've said. Punish that, but neither of these two idiots is a dangerous sex offender as I would define one. I think that's what got them in trouble in the first place... ... just saying. LOL! I thought of that when I used that euphemism but decided to just let 'er ride. (pun fully intended)
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Post by djAdvocate on May 8, 2015 13:42:37 GMT -5
It says he was previously convicted of cocaine problems, so I would have to guess drugs played a part in this. I understand cocaine can make stupid and illegal things seem fun and exciting. I do think 15 years is too long, though. Maybe some weekend jail time, combined with community service and drug treatment, if they test positive. I don't think they were predators preying on the kids, they were just idiots doing their idiotic activities and it happened to be in front of kids. Two heterosexuals copulating on a beach is not predators preying on the beach for anyone. It is illegal, and immoral according to state law. Of course, they are Spanish surname, so maybe a protected class after all. Whether immoral or not, it should not be allowed on a beach in public view. you're still reaching. being in a protected class doesn't allow you to commit crimes, bro.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 8, 2015 13:45:18 GMT -5
although i think this is a distraction, i wonder about our priorities as a nation, sometimes.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 8, 2015 13:45:50 GMT -5
I am more concerned over their age difference. Obviously she is making plenty of bad choices. I would consider jail time of as couple of long weekends appropiate, and a really hefty fine for both of them. Rules are rules. I imagine if they were a married gay couple we would not be discussing this as they are a protected class, Heh. So not true! Whether the couple was straight or gay, I believe if they were caught having sex on a crowded beach, we'd be discussing this. Gays would have been arrested for it just as quickly as straights. The parents of the nearby children might have been even more upset! far more quickly, imo.
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Post by happyhoix on May 8, 2015 13:46:46 GMT -5
... dangerously stupid. ... ... Where is the danger in what they were doing? Nothing in what they were doing was dangerous, but I'm extrapolating that people who don't have enough sense not to get naked and have sex in a public place with kids around are showing the kind of defecit in logical thinking that might also make them believe riding a motorcycle at 110 MPH without a helmet is cool, or getting drunk and driving the wrong way on a freeway is cool. This time they just entertained some kids and freaked out a bunch of parents, but their next stupid idea could actually hurt someone.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 8, 2015 13:47:15 GMT -5
It seems some sex offender lists are strange. You'd think it would contain pedophiles and rapists, but it seems to include so much more, at least in the UK. They will be on the list along with the guy who had sex with the mailbox. Its icky, but not a public threat in the way most of us view who should be on sex offender registries. this is precisely my problem with the RSO list, is that it bundles people like this up with child molesters. totally wrong, imo.
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Post by kittensaver on May 8, 2015 13:48:46 GMT -5
Um - someone clearly does not understand the definition or concept of Protected Class. It is a legal construct that only applies to protection from discrimination in employment and in public accommodations. It has NOTHING to do with protection from breaking the law
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on May 8, 2015 13:49:24 GMT -5
... dangerously stupid. ... ... Where is the danger in what they were doing? Sunburned nipples.
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on May 8, 2015 13:51:12 GMT -5
Sorry. But now I'm remembering how very badly that hurt....my friend.
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Post by kittensaver on May 8, 2015 13:54:48 GMT -5
Sorry. But now I'm remembering how very badly that hurt....my friend. Lol! Sand in and on your private parts when doing the horizontal mambo can hurt too . . . according to my friend . . .
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Post by Green Eyed Lady on May 8, 2015 13:59:07 GMT -5
We have some very adventurous friends!
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Post by chiver78 on May 8, 2015 15:58:24 GMT -5
although i think this is a distraction, i wonder about our priorities as a nation, sometimes. ditto. I shared a friend's FB status last night, similar line of thinking:
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Post by billisonboard on May 8, 2015 16:13:52 GMT -5
although i think this is a distraction, i wonder about our priorities as a nation, sometimes. ditto. I shared a friend's FB status last night, similar line of thinking: One has nothing to do with football. One has only to do with football.
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Post by chiver78 on May 8, 2015 16:26:11 GMT -5
ditto. I shared a friend's FB status last night, similar line of thinking: One has nothing to do with football. One has only to do with football. players have been suspended for legal issues under the league conduct rules. sent from my electronic distraction
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Post by kittensaver on May 8, 2015 16:28:46 GMT -5
One has nothing to do with football. One has only to do with football. players have been suspended for legal issues completely outside of football and that have nothing to do with football under the league conduct rules. sent from my electronic distraction Fixed it for ya
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Post by billisonboard on May 8, 2015 16:29:43 GMT -5
One has nothing to do with football. One has only to do with football. players have been suspended for legal issues under the league conduct rules. sent from my electronic distraction Yes, you indicated that in the reply I quoted. It is a fact I am aware of.
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Post by chiver78 on May 8, 2015 16:33:20 GMT -5
players have been suspended for legal issues completely outside of football and that have nothing to do with football under the league conduct rules. sent from my electronic distraction Fixed it for ya thank you. sent from my electronic distraction
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Post by chiver78 on May 8, 2015 16:34:01 GMT -5
players have been suspended for legal issues under the league conduct rules. sent from my electronic distraction Yes, you indicated that in the reply I quoted. It is a fact I am aware of. then I'm going to have to apologize. I don't understand your confusion about my comment. please enlighten me. sent from my electronic distraction
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Post by Value Buy on May 8, 2015 16:34:18 GMT -5
Not dangerous sex offenders, but dangerously stupid. Couldn't even wait for dark, or find some shrubbery? I have always advocated turning one of the little used rectangular states into a giant holding pen for dangerously stupid people. Corral them in and let them harm no one but each other. Only problem since it is a square red state, unless it's maybe, Colorado, the Feds would have to be in charge protecting the borders and stopping the escapees at the border. We all know how well the Fed is protecting borders.
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Post by Robert not Bobby on May 8, 2015 16:44:37 GMT -5
Those crazy Mexicans. Some public decorum is always warranted, but...
I think it was in poor taste.
I've been to nude beaches in Europe, where everyone knew what was happening, but discreet.
Can't we have some standard rules for sexual play on public beaches? Is that too much to ask?
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Post by billisonboard on May 8, 2015 16:45:57 GMT -5
[/quote] One has nothing to do with football. One has only to do with football. ... I don't understand your confusion about my comment. please enlighten me. No "confusion". I was pointing out that Ray Rice's off field behavior had no impact on the game of football while the deflated footballs did impact the game of football (and the only possible consequence will be what is done within football). I think that is a factor that should be taken into account when determining the proper reaction to the actions undertaken by the NFL.
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Post by kittensaver on May 8, 2015 17:15:51 GMT -5
The NFL would beg to differ with you. Thus, their personal conduct code written into player's contracts.
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Post by billisonboard on May 8, 2015 18:20:19 GMT -5
... The NFL would beg to differ with you. Thus, their personal conduct code written into player's contracts. I would say that is about the business of the NFL and not about the game of football.
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Post by Shooby on May 9, 2015 6:44:19 GMT -5
Huh? Am I on the football thread?
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