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Post by EVT1 on Mar 22, 2015 20:20:34 GMT -5
What does a melee at an AZ Walmart have to do with the Palins? White trash and a fight. I was proving your point actually and making a joke.
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 23, 2015 4:36:31 GMT -5
Dunno, but did you hear that Bristol is getting married to Dakota Meyer? She'll be Bristol Meyer. I guess they'll name their offspring Squibb.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Mar 23, 2015 6:35:00 GMT -5
And you don't think anyone else should be. So typical. I feel bad for you. You don't seem like a very happy person but I am just judging from this board. I probably shouldn't say this but one day I expect to hear that you have stroked out Oh, and aren't the Palins from Alaska?
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 23, 2015 7:36:33 GMT -5
Dunno, but did you hear that Bristol is getting married to Dakota Meyer? She'll be Bristol Meyer. I guess they'll name their offspring Squibb.
*ba dum tsshh*
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Post by NoNamePerson on Mar 23, 2015 8:11:01 GMT -5
Geeze Virgil, I had to google that!! You kiddos keep me on my toes. And that counts as my "learn something new everyday" quota.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 23, 2015 8:45:03 GMT -5
I had to look it up too, NNP. But don't let that detract from your perceptions of my omniscience.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 23, 2015 9:23:02 GMT -5
Dunno, but did you hear that Bristol is getting married to Dakota Meyer? She'll be Bristol Meyer. I guess they'll name their offspring Squibb.
in that family, any name is possible.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Mar 23, 2015 10:49:16 GMT -5
Call me crazy but I never understood the obsession with the Palins. Aren't there more current folks to be obsessed about?
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 23, 2015 11:30:24 GMT -5
Call me crazy but I never understood the obsession with the Palins. Aren't there more current folks to be obsessed about? The left obsesses over the Palins because the Palins represent to them how the political right thinks. To a degree, it's human nature to seek out the most assailable target and designate it an exemplar of one's ideological opponent. Weltz is simply following her predatory instincts here by going after the weak prey. The Palins' tendency to make goofy or indefensible statements have transformed their family into the equivalent of a wounded impala--the perfect low-risk opportunity to belittle the political right and reinforce her preferred alternative by comparison. Her instinctive drive kicked in when EVT (who initiated the Palin exercise) provided an opening at the end of the previous page. Palin!
The straggling impala!Opportunity!Hence while EVT's predation was spontaneous, Weltz' approach appears to be more opportunistic. It's all quite uncian in nature.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 12:07:52 GMT -5
I like Sarah Palin. She's cute in an offhand way, and smart.
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 23, 2015 12:14:39 GMT -5
I like Sarah Palin. She's cute in an offhand way, and smart. Yeah, she's a veritable Rhodes Scholar. She can't even cobble a coherent sentence together, despite having a journalism degree.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 12:19:14 GMT -5
I like Sarah Palin. She's cute in an offhand way, and smart. Yeah, she's a veritable Rhodes Scholar. She can't even cobble a coherent sentence together, despite having a journalism degree.
Virgil in Reply #68 is kind of scary at times with his observations.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 23, 2015 13:03:17 GMT -5
Call me crazy but I never understood the obsession with the Palins. Aren't there more current folks to be obsessed about? she is cute, and she is nuts. that is all i need in my entertainment. i think obsessed is too strong a word, however. i am not even obsessed with Fiona Apple, and she is twice as cute and nuts as Palin.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 23, 2015 13:05:19 GMT -5
I like Sarah Palin. She's cute in an offhand way, and smart. Yeah, she's a veritable Rhodes Scholar. She can't even cobble a coherent sentence together, despite having a journalism degree.
i think she is kinda average in intelligence. not smart, not dumb. i think she is incredibly naiive, however. i also think she tends to believe things just because, not out of some tireless thirst to know. then again, i think that describes most people. i expect more of my leaders, however.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 23, 2015 13:06:47 GMT -5
Yeah, she's a veritable Rhodes Scholar. She can't even cobble a coherent sentence together, despite having a journalism degree.
Virgil in Reply #68 is kind of scary at times with his observations. i think the basic premise is correct, but i think it is wildly overdramatic. Palin is a large target because she is a big personality, and she puts herself in the line of fire.
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Post by happyhoix on Mar 23, 2015 13:40:27 GMT -5
What does a melee at an AZ Walmart have to do with the Palins? There was some fisticuffs that started at a party the Palin clan was attending a while back. I'm too lazy to look it up.
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Post by happyhoix on Mar 23, 2015 13:48:40 GMT -5
Yeah, she's a veritable Rhodes Scholar. She can't even cobble a coherent sentence together, despite having a journalism degree.
i think she is kinda average in intelligence. not smart, not dumb. i think she is incredibly naiive, however. i also think she tends to believe things just because, not out of some tireless thirst to know. then again, i think that describes most people. i expect more of my leaders, however. I think she's cunning. She saw how warmly she was received when she ran for VP and dumped her govenor gig to make a butt load of money as a talking head on the lecture circuit, probably thinking she could have a show like Bill O'Reilly. I don't blame her, I'm sure she's made a lot of money that way. As for why her family being involved in a fist fight at a party would be entertaining, it's always fun to see a celebrity (or their family) caught acting stupid, doesn't matter if it's a right leaning or left leaning or an apolitical celebrity.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Mar 23, 2015 13:50:07 GMT -5
Dunno, but did you hear that Bristol is getting married to Dakota Meyer? She'll be Bristol Meyer. I guess they'll name their offspring Squibb.
Don't know why but this reminded me of the Burma Shave signs that used to be on the side of roads.
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 23, 2015 13:51:54 GMT -5
When she first burst out on the scene, Canadians were scratching their heads and saying "Are you kidding me??"
She provided lots of laughter and laughter is so very good for the soul.
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Post by EVT1 on Mar 23, 2015 23:10:47 GMT -5
And you don't think anyone else should be. So typical. I feel bad for you. You don't seem like a very happy person but I am just judging from this board. I probably shouldn't say this but one day I expect to hear that you have stroked out Oh, and aren't the Palins from Alaska? I might stroke out- just like you might. But if I do it won't be because of politics- and I should sound angry- one reason I bother with a political board is to get it off my chest so I don't burden friends and family talking about it- I get to state an opinion- granted to a very small group- and I move on. Sometimes it turns into a good discussion and sometimes maybe it is venting to a degree- but it works! Keep coming back!
If you really want to see some people in line for a stroke look at the tea party and the folks that watch Fox news 24/7. Reminds me of an article:
www.salon.com/2014/02/27/i_lost_my_dad_to_fox_news_how_a_generation_was_captured_by_thrashing_hysteria/
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 24, 2015 4:43:05 GMT -5
And you don't think anyone else should be. So typical. I feel bad for you. You don't seem like a very happy person but I am just judging from this board. I probably shouldn't say this but one day I expect to hear that you have stroked out Oh, and aren't the Palins from Alaska? I might stroke out- just like you might. But if I do it won't be because of politics- and I should sound angry- one reason I bother with a political board is to get it off my chest so I don't burden friends and family talking about it- I get to state an opinion- granted to a very small group- and I move on. Sometimes it turns into a good discussion and sometimes maybe it is venting to a degree- but it works! Keep coming back!
If you really want to see some people in line for a stroke look at the tea party and the folks that watch Fox news 24/7. Reminds me of an article:
www.salon.com/2014/02/27/i_lost_my_dad_to_fox_news_how_a_generation_was_captured_by_thrashing_hysteria/
Yet... you're the one who embodies "thrashing hysteria" on our board. Or as Mr. Lyngar puts it: "a wounded and thrashing legacy of white hegemony". Incidentally, it doesn't raise just a few red flags in your mind that the article is a no-holds-barred raving assault on FOX news watchers, but Lyngar's thesis is that conservatives are too critical, hostile, and one-sided?
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Post by NoNamePerson on Mar 24, 2015 7:48:41 GMT -5
And you don't think anyone else should be. So typical. I feel bad for you. You don't seem like a very happy person but I am just judging from this board. I probably shouldn't say this but one day I expect to hear that you have stroked out Oh, and aren't the Palins from Alaska? I might stroke out- just like you might. But if I do it won't be because of politics- and I should sound angry- one reason I bother with a political board is to get it off my chest so I don't burden friends and family talking about it- I get to state an opinion- granted to a very small group- and I move on. Sometimes it turns into a good discussion and sometimes maybe it is venting to a degree- but it works! Keep coming back!
If you really want to see some people in line for a stroke look at the tea party and the folks that watch Fox news 24/7. Reminds me of an article:
www.salon.com/2014/02/27/i_lost_my_dad_to_fox_news_how_a_generation_was_captured_by_thrashing_hysteria/
Just curious and sincerely want to know. Is fox news a good source for info? You seem to know a lot about what they broadcast so assuming that you spend a lot of time reading/watching fox. I don't watch the news so just wondering in case I decide in my old age to start watching again. Hell, I even had to ask where the Palins were from -faint-But am glad to know that you are happpy and life is good and my take on you was totally wrong - but I did say "based on your posts".
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Post by mmhmm on Mar 24, 2015 10:41:58 GMT -5
I like Sarah Palin. She's cute in an offhand way, and smart. Yeah, she's a veritable Rhodes Scholar. She can't even cobble a coherent sentence together, despite having a journalism degree.
Heh. It took her five years and five schools to get that degree. Seems she just couldn't settle. I don't think she's stupid, but I don't think she's got a lot of stick-toitiveness (now, there's a word for ya). Her intellect is probably pretty normal but certainly nothing to write home about. She's very pretty, as are many women. That, to me, doesn't mean much. If there's nothing in the store, the window dressing isn't particularly important, IMO. I don't know that people are as much obsessed with Ms. Palin as they are flummoxed. I've always kinda thought she was out of her element. Of course, I disagree with a good number of her stances on issues but there are times when I can see where she's coming from. She's just very, very bad at presenting that, as I see it. She certainly lacks refinement but she's sure not the only politician out there who lacks refinement! In short, a rather ordinary woman who used her looks to get her where her intellect, capabilities and presentation couldn't. Looks, unfortunately, don't last. You'd best have some underpinnings to take over when the bloom begins to leave the rose.
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Post by EVT1 on Mar 24, 2015 18:28:12 GMT -5
Just curious and sincerely want to know. Is fox news a good source for info? You seem to know a lot about what they broadcast so assuming that you spend a lot of time reading/watching fox. I don't watch the news so just wondering in case I decide in my old age to start watching again. Hell, I even had to ask where the Palins were from -faint-But am glad to know that you are happpy and life is good and my take on you was totally wrong - but I did say "based on your posts". Depends if you prefer your news extremely slanted or not, missing relevant details or context, etc. So no- it is not a good source of information as I consider information neutral. It can be a starting point.
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Post by Opti on Mar 24, 2015 20:36:05 GMT -5
And you don't think anyone else should be. So typical. I feel bad for you. You don't seem like a very happy person but I am just judging from this board. I probably shouldn't say this but one day I expect to hear that you have stroked out Oh, and aren't the Palins from Alaska? I might stroke out- just like you might. But if I do it won't be because of politics- and I should sound angry- one reason I bother with a political board is to get it off my chest so I don't burden friends and family talking about it- I get to state an opinion- granted to a very small group- and I move on. Sometimes it turns into a good discussion and sometimes maybe it is venting to a degree- but it works! Keep coming back!
If you really want to see some people in line for a stroke look at the tea party and the folks that watch Fox news 24/7. Reminds me of an article:
www.salon.com/2014/02/27/i_lost_my_dad_to_fox_news_how_a_generation_was_captured_by_thrashing_hysteria/
I read it. I was disappointed though he couldn't figure out that perhaps Boomers couldn't be the only generation watching Fox if the average age of viewers is 68. The Silent Generation is so silent, people forget to mention them.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 24, 2015 21:01:01 GMT -5
I might stroke out- just like you might. But if I do it won't be because of politics- and I should sound angry- one reason I bother with a political board is to get it off my chest so I don't burden friends and family talking about it- I get to state an opinion- granted to a very small group- and I move on. Sometimes it turns into a good discussion and sometimes maybe it is venting to a degree- but it works! Keep coming back!
If you really want to see some people in line for a stroke look at the tea party and the folks that watch Fox news 24/7. Reminds me of an article:
www.salon.com/2014/02/27/i_lost_my_dad_to_fox_news_how_a_generation_was_captured_by_thrashing_hysteria/
I read it. I was disappointed though he couldn't figure out that perhaps Boomers couldn't be the only generation watching Fox if the average age of viewers is 68. The Silent Generation is so silent, people forget to mention them.
They tried to calculate the mean age of CNN viewers, but they kept running into division by zero. ETA: In all seriousness, these bloggers don't seem to realize that the medium selects the demographic. Older demographics prefer television. Younger demographics prefer the Internet. The Internet content is, by and large, the same as the television content. The impact of a given media outlet is the sum of the two.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 25, 2015 11:13:26 GMT -5
I read it. I was disappointed though he couldn't figure out that perhaps Boomers couldn't be the only generation watching Fox if the average age of viewers is 68. The Silent Generation is so silent, people forget to mention them.
They tried to calculate the mean age of CNN viewers, but they kept running into division by zero. ETA: In all seriousness, these bloggers don't seem to realize that the medium selects the demographic. Older demographics prefer television. Younger demographics prefer the Internet. The Internet content is, by and large, the same as the television content. The impact of a given media outlet is the sum of the two. your counterargument makes no sense. CNN and FOX are both cable news.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 25, 2015 16:00:27 GMT -5
They tried to calculate the mean age of CNN viewers, but they kept running into division by zero. ETA: In all seriousness, these bloggers don't seem to realize that the medium selects the demographic. Older demographics prefer television. Younger demographics prefer the Internet. The Internet content is, by and large, the same as the television content. The impact of a given media outlet is the sum of the two. your counterargument makes no sense. CNN and FOX are both cable news. The ETA isn't related to the first paragraph. First paragraph: joke that CNN viewership = 0. Second paragraph: criticism of the "FOX news is [something] because its mean viewer age is 68" class of arguments, which are invalid prima facie because television inherently selects an older demographic
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 25, 2015 22:51:53 GMT -5
your counterargument makes no sense. CNN and FOX are both cable news. The ETA isn't related to the first paragraph. First paragraph: joke that CNN viewership = 0. Second paragraph: criticism of the "FOX news is [something] because its mean viewer age is 68" class of arguments, which are invalid prima facie because television inherently selects an older demographic no. the audience chooses the media, not the other way around. CNN would love to have the upper income conservatives that FOX has, but they also really want the 25-34 group, which, as you correctly stated, don't watch a lot of cable news (but when they do, overwhelmingly do NOT choose FOX news). if i were to do a long term short play, it would be for FOX News. their demographic is dying, and i think that it is really poor long term corporate planning to not fix that. but you are not actually fashioning an argument in your defense here, either, since clearly FOX's audience is WAY older than CNN's. your absurdist argument leading to division by zero not withstanding, the facts are the facts, and you not only have not denied them or refuted them, you have actually substantiated them.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 26, 2015 0:10:00 GMT -5
The ETA isn't related to the first paragraph. First paragraph: joke that CNN viewership = 0. Second paragraph: criticism of the "FOX news is [something] because its mean viewer age is 68" class of arguments, which are invalid prima facie because television inherently selects an older demographic no. the audience chooses the media, not the other way around. CNN would love to have the upper income conservatives that FOX has, but they also really want the 25-34 group, which, as you correctly stated, don't watch a lot of cable news (but when they do, overwhelmingly do NOT choose FOX news). if i were to do a long term short play, it would be for FOX News. their demographic is dying, and i think that it is really poor long term corporate planning to not fix that. but you are not actually fashioning an argument in your defense here, either, since clearly FOX's audience is WAY older than CNN's. your absurdist argument leading to division by zero not withstanding, the facts are the facts, and you not only have not denied them or refuted them, you have actually substantiated them. I'm not sure what argument you think I'm trying to make, but stated very simply, it's: i) mean age of FOX news consumer ≠ 68, and ii) any argument [mean age of FOX news consumer = 68] → X does not allow one to posit X, because the predicate is false. I don't care what CNN's mean viewership age is relative to FOX's. It's irrelevant. My joke (note: not an absurdist argument, a joke) about CNN draws on the fact that CNN's television viewership, both in comparison to its past viewership and to FOX news viewership, is notably low. In other words: Take a chill pill, bro.
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