Obama lied: US will stay in Afghanistan after 2014

[ed1066]

So much for another Barack Obama promise lie. How do you know when Obama is lying? When his lips are moving...

In related news, of course, liberals now LOVE the idea of an endless war in Afghanistan!

www.nationaljournal.com/nationalsecurity/in-surprise-afghanistan-visit-gates-says-u-s-may-stay-past-2014-deadline-20110307

Defense Secretary Robert Gates said from Afghanistan on Monday that the U.S. military is well positioned to start withdrawing some troops in July, though he said a U.S. presence may remain in the country past the 2014 deadline to transfer security control to local forces.

Gates arrived in Afghanistan on Monday on an unannounced trip to meet with Afghan President Hamid Karzai and visit the country's restive eastern and southern provinces to assess conditions as he decides how many troops to withdraw in July. Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell told reporters en route to Afghanistan that "there are more talks to take place and more work to be done once [Gates] is home," before any official decisions are made about the size and scope of troop withdrawals.

[swamp]

I thought liberals hated war?

[privateinvestor]

Obama lied: US will stay in Afghanistan after 2014


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I think we knew there would be some US troops in Afghanistan after 2014 depending on any future agreements with Karzai...so no big deal IMHO...

[Angel!]

Mar 7, 2011 13:29:46 GMT -5 @ed1066 said:

In related news, of course, liberals now LOVE the idea of an endless war in Afghanistan!

Show me some liberals that used to speak out against the war & now LOVE the war in afghanistan.

Also, it might be worth noting that they are saying we MAY stay in afghanistand, not we WILL stay as you said in the title. It seems the complete timeframe is still unknown.

[swamp]

Considering we're still in Korea 60 years after the Korean war, I wouldn't be surprised if we stay in Afghanistan a little longer than 2014.

[ed1066]

I wouldn't be surprised if we stay in Afghanistan a little longer than 2014.

I don't think anyone is surprised, except apparently Obama, since he said we would be out by then...yet another indication the man is either a compulsive liar or he actually is retarded...

[Mad Dawg Wiccan]

Mar 7, 2011 14:11:02 GMT -5 @ed1066 said:

I wouldn't be surprised if we stay in Afghanistan a little longer than 2014.

I don't think anyone is surprised, except apparently Obama, since he said we would be out by then...yet another indication the man is either a compulsive liar or he actually is retarded...

Or just a political neophyte.

[deziloooooo]

There is no question, we will be in the country in some form after 2014...unless a new president decides we pull out completely, but no matter what they campaign on, once they become the POTUS and they learn the true facts, as we have found out with Guantanamo, electioneering rhetoric , realities of the topic makes a change on position necessary and here too , I believe the same thing will happen.

[Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ]

Considering we're still in Korea 60 years after the Korean war, I wouldn't be surprised if we stay in Afghanistan a little longer than 2014.

Werent we still or are maintaining WWII bases around the world?

[Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ]

Yeah, why DO we have troops in Germany?



I say we close all military bases in Maine.

[reasonfreedom]

Mar 7, 2011 14:15:02 GMT -5 deziloooooo said:

There is no question, we will be in the country in some form after 2014...unless a new president decides we pull out completely, but no matter what they campaign on, once they become the POTUS and they learn the true facts, as we have found out with Guantanamo, electioneering rhetoric , realities of the topic makes a change on position necessary and here too , I believe the same thing will happen.

So, basically your saying our vote doesn't really matter because the new president isn't likely to hold to his campaign promises. I have to agree with you on that.

[deziloooooo]

Mar 7, 2011 14:41:16 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

Werent we still or are maintaining WWII bases around the world?
Yeah, why DO we have troops in Germany?

It's Lichenstein and Monaco...if we wearn't there they would merge and then warch out..better to be there then try to dislodge them when they took over.

[Deleted]

But... but...but... I thought King Obama was going to end all wars and ensure peace on earth forever and ever-- just because he is black and liberal and cumbaya and all that CRAP?

[deziloooooo]

Mar 7, 2011 18:05:03 GMT -5 @krickitt said:

But... but...but... I thought King Obama was going to end all wars and ensure peace on earth forever and ever-- just because he is black and liberal and cumbaya and all that CRAP?

He really bothers you doesn't he?

[workpublic]

anybody who believed/thought obama would "get us out" of afghanistan was an idiot, imho

[Loopdilou]

Yah, I never expected us to get out of Afghanistan completely. You probably would have to be an idiot to believe that... either that or uneducated, since the US has a long history of maintaining bases in countries that we've engaged in war-like activities..

[chiver78]

Mar 7, 2011 14:54:25 GMT -5 Ratchets said:

Mar 7, 2011 14:41:16 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

Werent we still or are maintaining WWII bases around the world?
Yeah, why DO we have troops in Germany?

Shhhh...Germany has some great assignments.

haha, no kidding! a college friend of mine is about to move over. show him the ropes, please.

and amen, swamp. it's too bad those that try to spin things to fit their argument don't actually understand what they are posting.

[workpublic]

some people who voted for obama thought we'd be completely out by now.

www.ky3.com/sns-ap-as-gates-afghanistan,0,843857.story


but he ruled out permanent military bases in the strategically important country.


Gates said the U.S. is interested in keeping a military presence in this former al-Qaida haven beyond the planned end of combat in three years

where will they be "based" the holiday inn? ;D

Vexing questions remain about whether Kabul will be ready to govern by 2015 and prevent a return to extremist Taliban rule.


Campbell said 90 percent of civilian casualties in his area of responsibility are caused by the Taliban


afghansiatn will be the next potus' war and possibly the next after that.

[mmhmm]

Perfectly normal for a transition team to remain on site after troops have left. It's necessary, in fact.

[deziloooooo]

Mar 7, 2011 18:54:03 GMT -5 workpublic said:

some people who voted for obama thought we'd be completely out by now.

www.ky3.com/sns-ap-as-gates-afghanistan,0,843857.story


but he ruled out permanent military bases in the strategically important country.


Gates said the U.S. is interested in keeping a military presence in this former al-Qaida haven beyond the planned end of combat in three years

where will they be "based" the holiday inn? ;D

Vexing questions remain about whether Kabul will be ready to govern by 2015 and prevent a return to extremist Taliban rule.


Campbell said 90 percent of civilian casualties in his area of responsibility are caused by the Taliban


Afghanistan will be the next potus' war and possibly the next after that.

If so, and a different one, he will inherit a better set up then the present one did , which was a seven year waste of $ spent and neglect as far as a plan and asserts. He did his study, covered all the bases. Unless they are lying I have watched the Generals in recent press conferences run from the pentagon to Afghanistan's were the Generals are, and whole there is no great news , the news is not bad, fairly straight as to what is and what is not being accomplished.
There are roads, schools , markets being built. they're are villages taking part in these things. The Afghans are slowly taking over and the talibam whole still a force are also being hurt badly. We still have till 2014 according to the plan for the Afghans to take over the major defense of the country, we'll have to see .

[Tennesseer]

Mar 7, 2011 18:05:03 GMT -5 @krickitt said:

But... but...but... I thought King Obama was going to end all wars and ensure peace on earth forever and ever-- just because he is black and liberal and cumbaya and all that CRAP?

krickitt- can you please provide me an explanation why you mentioned the race of President Obama in your above comment please.

Thanks,

Tennesseer/Moderator

[ed1066]

BAM! Race card pulled...

[mmhmm]

Yep. Krickitt pulled it.

[deziloooooo]

Mar 7, 2011 21:10:53 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Yep. Krickitt pulled it.

[Politically_Incorrect12]

Mar 7, 2011 19:11:46 GMT -5 deziloooooo said:

Mar 7, 2011 18:54:03 GMT -5 workpublic said:

some people who voted for obama thought we'd be completely out by now.

www.ky3.com/sns-ap-as-gates-afghanistan,0,843857.story


but he ruled out permanent military bases in the strategically important country.


Gates said the U.S. is interested in keeping a military presence in this former al-Qaida haven beyond the planned end of combat in three years

where will they be "based" the holiday inn? ;D

Vexing questions remain about whether Kabul will be ready to govern by 2015 and prevent a return to extremist Taliban rule.


Campbell said 90 percent of civilian casualties in his area of responsibility are caused by the Taliban


Afghanistan will be the next potus' war and possibly the next after that.

If so, and a different one, he will inherit a better set up then the present one did , which was a seven year waste of $ spent and neglect as far as a plan and asserts. He did his study, covered all the bases. Unless they are lying I have watched the Generals in recent press conferences run from the pentagon to Afghanistan's were the Generals are, and whole there is no great news , the news is not bad, fairly straight as to what is and what is not being accomplished.
There are roads, schools , markets being built. they're are villages taking part in these things. The Afghans are slowly taking over and the talibam whole still a force are also being hurt badly. We still have till 2014 according to the plan for the Afghans to take over the major defense of the country, we'll have to see .

So are you giving Bush credit for getting the ball rolling, or is this more of a jab at Bush again since you seem to think Obama is doing such a great job at everything?

[Politically_Incorrect12]

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[deziloooooo]

Mar 7, 2011 23:32:25 GMT -5 Politically_Incorrect12 said:

Mar 7, 2011 19:11:46 GMT -5 deziloooooo said:

If so, and a different one, he will inherit a better set up then the present one did , which was a seven year waste of $ spent and neglect as far as a plan and asserts. He did his study, covered all the bases. Unless they are lying I have watched the Generals in recent press conferences run from the pentagon to Afghanistan's were the Generals are, and whole there is no great news , the news is not bad, fairly straight as to what is and what is not being accomplished.
There are roads, schools , markets being built. they're are villages taking part in these things. The Afghans are slowly taking over and the talibam whole still a force are also being hurt badly. We still have till 2014 according to the plan for the Afghans to take over the major defense of the country, we'll have to see .

So are you giving Bush credit for getting the ball rolling, or is this more of a jab at Bush again since you seem to think Obama is doing such a great job at everything?

Afganistan, complete cluster F. he went in because the ones who attacked us were there, asked the taliban to give them up, kick them out tm, they didn';t so we took them out and were going after alQuida the perps, but then, Iraq ..and Afganistan, back burner, wsted $, troops, we just did little in 7 years.
Just before he left office , a few months , sent the right person over to do a study, Pakistan, Aganistan, came back , read the study, said to late, just drop it let the new Presidernt handle Afganistan, not sure he even got the report to hinm ..read Woodwards book , it happened. A cluster F..sorry but he mishandked it after Iraq was entered into.
The Military , in Obamas fact gathering, came up with a plan, Obama heard them out.
As he said, seven years ago, maybe , now no way. A trillion. 80,0000 more troops, and indefinite time line.. there was more. Read the book, all there.

[ugonow]

"Defense Secretary Robert Gates said from Afghanistan on Monday that the U.S. military is well positioned to start withdrawing some troops in July, though he said a U.S. presence may remain in the country past the 2014 deadline to transfer security control to local forces." --- Can we impeach him now?

[privateinvestor]

Why not just let him finish out his first term in office and save the expense of impeaching him.. Just a suggestion..


BTW if anyone can guess how long our troops will be in Afghanistan they must be getting some confidential data that the rest of us don't have including our representatives who have no idea when our troops will be home from the Afghan..

It is impossible even for the Commanders to determine when our troops will be home.... Many so called Military experts had no idea our troops would be in Korea, Germany, and the Middle East for so long a period of time... And there is some movement in congress to bring them home and save a few $Trillion bucks over the next ten years....

[mmhmm]

Mar 8, 2011 9:04:29 GMT -5 ugonow said:

"Defense Secretary Robert Gates said from Afghanistan on Monday that the U.S. military is well positioned to start withdrawing some troops in July, though he said a U.S. presence may remain in the country past the 2014 deadline to transfer security control to local forces." --- Can we impeach him now?

Why would we want to do that? This is normal procedure and has been in every similar situation.