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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2011 10:08:59 GMT -5
The problem is... who defines the ones who conspire to insurrection... you don't really want someone to just be able to suspend your rights by labeling it such... burden of proof should still be there...
I think I did read you wrong though. I don't think you can ignore a threat, but i also think you need to abide by the constitution and individual rights and burden of proof when answering that threat...
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burnsattornincan
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Post by burnsattornincan on Mar 12, 2011 10:30:33 GMT -5
I agree however there apparently was proof in the form of documents found at a mosque (I believe). The documents clearly stated such goals in the United States. I am trying to say that you are so far removed from the Constitution since carrying out the penalty for these plots today would be something practically unthinkable.
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 12, 2011 10:37:30 GMT -5
I feel like I need to add one: #13 - A Sense of Humor At least Bills got it...and here I was worried that the "Baby Jesus" line was going to give it away The purpose was to illustrate how redonkulous the post comparing conservatives to nazi's was. I failed to realise it would go zooming right over some folks heads... Guilty, over my head, missed the natzi one so possible can be forgiven , I did say it was a stupid post though so possible I didn't miss that much of it, guess thought more stupid then funny. Actually in checking, not stupid, I said a "Nothing " post..the list. I say , same thing, a nothing stupid list, ok, will live with that.
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Post by handyman2 on Mar 12, 2011 10:58:31 GMT -5
Mr Burns: To clarify my statement about abiding by the constitution. There has and always will be those who hate our democratic system. Call them radicals, insurrectionists what ever. Yes they are a threat. But what I was saying is that we must not let those groups drive us to paranoia to the point that we throw out our constitution and laws to deal with them. Can they be a danger to our way of life. Absolutely, but the mistake we must guard against is not to overreact to the point we lose site of what makes this country great but to remain calm and let the laws of our land do it's job. By doing that we remain a strong democratic nation. Otherwise we become just like them.
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Post by burnsattornincan on Mar 12, 2011 18:49:52 GMT -5
Thank you for your clarification Mr. handyman2. I understand your position in the matter but for the most part will have to disagree. The earth is still ruled by animals and being overly accommodating and amicable will get you in trouble sooner that you think. Nice guys really do finish last.
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Post by ed1066 on Mar 12, 2011 19:42:31 GMT -5
Aha! It's not just me getting those! I knew it!
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 13, 2011 1:29:48 GMT -5
Post deleted due to content. Mod bashing. Tennesseer/Moderator You can NOT be serious....my comments reply #222 were no way so called Mod Bashing....and almost as ridiculous as when I was banned for two days for asking how does continuous "taunting, and heckling" add to this message board..? And Dezilooooo cease with your weirdo PMs I don't want to be contacted by you (2nd Request) .. Moonbeam owns this message board and not YOU ... I was told about this post, just found it. I received your PM to me about this at 10:08 AM, I sent back to you immediatly , "I never sent a PM to you", and checked recent PM's sent to others to see if accidently sent to you, they were not. I asked you to send it back to me so I can see it , you didn't. I have been in touch with both mods and moon on this, immediatly, and again, nothing sent by me. Possible some one else sent to you, you didn't notice who, just looked at a signature, not that I ever sign them, it's indicated who a PM is from, but just possible you didn't notice. Post here the PM, send to me, send it to moon or a mod of your choice. I didn't send you a PM, I contacted you once at the beginning of this zone, you said not interested in PM's by me, fine, that was it. Suggest go in and click those you don't want contasct with , I am sure I am not alone, you can do that you know. Actually I beleive your blowing smoke but for the last time, I didn't send you a PM. Get off my back on this.
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 13, 2011 6:59:41 GMT -5
You can NOT be serious....my comments reply #222 were no way so called Mod Bashing....and almost as ridiculous as when I was banned for two days for asking how does continuous "taunting, and heckling" add to this message board..? And Dezilooooo cease with your weirdo PMs I don't want to be contacted by you (2nd Request) .. Moonbeam owns this message board and not YOU ... I was told about this post, just found it. I received your PM to me about this at 10:08 AM, I sent back to you immediatly , "I never sent a PM to you", and checked recent PM's sent to others to see if accidently sent to you, they were not. I asked you to send it back to me so I can see it , you didn't. I have been in touch with both mods and moon on this, immediatly, and again, nothing sent by me. Possible some one else sent to you, you didn't notice who, just looked at a signature, not that I ever sign them, it's indicated who a PM is from, but just possible you didn't notice. Post here the PM, send to me, send it to moon or a mod of your choice. I didn't send you a PM, I contacted you once at the beginning of this zone, you said not interested in PM's by me, fine, that was it. Suggest go in and click those you don't want contasct with , I am sure I am not alone, you can do that you know. Actually I beleive your blowing smoke but for the last time, I didn't send you a PM. Get off my back on this. Moonbeam contacted me yesterday. And I did then refer this matter to her to checkout...BTW.. Because you volunteered to be a Moderator as you gloated & boasted about in your latest PM (03/11/11) to me; will not make it a reality.
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deziloooooo
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 13, 2011 10:02:28 GMT -5
One never knows . you know how elections go but as always your sense of humor is a bit on the narrow side. As some one said once, "if nominated I will not run, if elected , I will not serve"....so that should put your mind to rest, save you millions as you stock up your war chest to make sure you have enough to contest my alleged bid. mmmmm, on the other hand, just possible, if I caucus and see what the support would b......Naaaaaaaaaaa ;D
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 13, 2011 12:36:21 GMT -5
Have you made a sign for your front yard? That would probably help...got to get the word out... mmmm, does that mean I could depend on your support??
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Post by safeharbor37 on Mar 13, 2011 14:10:31 GMT -5
Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. H. L. Mencken Read more: www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/h/h_l_mencken_2.html#ixzz1GVXPlOUfI actually believe [pathetic] in collective wisdom sort of the way I believe in God. There are things that we don't understand but go along with because they seem to work ~ although they may eventually fail, still we usually die soon enough that we don't find out and are replaced by another generation which has to figure out things for itself. I suppose that's the reason that History tends to repeat itself. "if nominated I will not run, if elected , I will not serve".. William Tecumseh Sherman Whenever you hear a man speak of his love for his country, it is a sign that he expects to be paid for it. H. L. Mencken Read more: www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/h/h_l_mencken_8.html#ixzz1GVqPGpJ7
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 13, 2011 14:14:36 GMT -5
Sure, if you really want the job. well thanks for the positive, even the consideration, but naaaaa. Actually, I think what we have now is excellent, seriously, steady, decent good humor, still able to throw a zinger in there when needed and very fair and tolerant.
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