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Post by steff on Mar 6, 2011 23:29:22 GMT -5
Right? Milk the world for benefits like a good lib! *************** Exactly! It's a little late to correct what 'they' think of libs by that point anyway.... so front of the line!
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Post by Loopdilou on Mar 6, 2011 23:40:12 GMT -5
Alright, kids. It's been fun making fun of crazy ideas this evening I gotta go sit with a hot pad on my shoulder (and another on my ass... roller derby HURTS!)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2011 0:01:26 GMT -5
I'll join! I've already said I have some socialistic views. According to some people that means I'm a communist! mmhmm, they are wrong! Having socialistic views would make you a socialist. Communism is a different ball of wax.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 7, 2011 0:09:23 GMT -5
It's all inter-changeable.
Socialist, Marxist, Communist, Nudist, Fascist, etc.
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Post by Opti on Mar 7, 2011 0:19:28 GMT -5
Seriously, Paul. You going through a divorce or something? You seem to have gotten increasingly whackadoodle in the past few months. We're worried about you bud, really. I agree. I thought Paul knew is about being clear thinking. What you focus on gets bigger in your world and what you ignore becomes smaller. Or to use a catchphrase "What you resist persists". The pundits and Paul lately seem to want enemies so much they will create them whether they exist or not. I really think that kid is onto something wanting to create the Unity party. Define the problems, solve the problems, forget the dogma. Paul, keep focusing on all the stuff you fear and it will come at you faster and faster. Turn your focus to what you want to see and life will smooth out.
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Post by Opti on Mar 7, 2011 0:20:39 GMT -5
It's all inter-changeable. Socialist, Marxist, Communist, Nudist, Fascist, etc. Are you reading the fear mongers handbook LOL?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2011 0:23:22 GMT -5
Environmentalist, Minimalist, Pianist...
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Post by Opti on Mar 7, 2011 0:25:56 GMT -5
Time for some clarity. And, if need be, the political destruction of the left if it can't manage to articulate a vision beyond "we will eventually force you to do what we want you to".
Paul, isn't the bolded phrase really your mantra or again some of the fear mongering (lately Right leaning) pundits?
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Post by Opti on Mar 7, 2011 0:26:43 GMT -5
Environmentalist, Minimalist, Pianist... Optimist ...
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 7, 2011 0:28:05 GMT -5
Solifidianist, pyrrhonist, bonist, veganist...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2011 0:38:18 GMT -5
Sadist? or Masochist?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 7, 2011 0:57:35 GMT -5
I provided the example of Van Jones. Let's look at another revolutionary-- in this case a violent revolutionary. Barack Obama's pal William Ayers. He got off scott free due to a legal technicality, but he's not a criminal. He's a traitor. He didn't commit violent crimes, he committed treason. We don't have an obligation to afford him a traditional trial where he is arrested, charged, and let off on a technicality. He is an insurrectionist, and the United States government would not only be within its rights, but would actually be doing its duty if-- even now-- the President of the United States ordered the Department of Defense to aprehend Mr. Ayers, give him a military trial, find him guilty of treason and put a bullet in his head.
But I'm not even talking about that. I'm not even talking about going after these people. I'm talking about putting the left on the ropes and making them once and for all distance themselves from radical revolutionaries. I'm not talking about the revolutionaries themselves per se, but rather their "legitimate" counterparts in politics. Back off, back away, disavow, or go down to electoral defeat.
When it comes to links to dangerous radicals, I think the left in particular has a lot of explaining to do. The Republican Party had to purge itself once upon a time when finally the disgusting rape, and subsequent death of a woman in Indiana by its Republican KKK governor finally shed a national light on the KKK, the Republican Party, and its association with the KKK.
Time for a similar reformation on the left.
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 7, 2011 1:59:36 GMT -5
I provided the example of Van Jones. Let's look at another revolutionary-- in this case a violent revolutionary. Barack Obama's pal William Ayers. He got off scott free due to a legal technicality, but he's not a criminal. He's a traitor. He didn't commit violent crimes, he committed treason. We don't have an obligation to afford him a traditional trial where he is arrested, charged, and let off on a technicality. He is an insurrectionist, and the United States government would not only be within its rights, but would actually be doing its duty if-- even now-- the President of the United States ordered the Department of Defense to aprehend Mr. Ayers, give him a military trial, but he's not a criminal. He's a traitor. He didn't commit violent crimes, he committed treason. But I'm not even talking about that. I'm not even talking about going after these people. I'm talking about putting the left on the ropes and making them once and for all distance themselves from radical revolutionaries. I'm not talking about the revolutionaries themselves per se, but rather their "legitimate" counterparts in politics. Back off, back away, disavow, or go down to electoral defeat. When it comes to links to dangerous radicals, I think the left in particular has a lot of explaining to do. The Republican Party had to purge itself once upon a time when finally the disgusting rape, and subsequent death of a woman in Indiana by its Republican KKK governor finally shed a national light on the KKK, the Republican Party, and its association with the KKK. Time for a similar reformation on the left. Whew, where do we start here , so much vitriol and BS..ok lets start with the little ones and work up... "but he's not a criminal. He's a traitor. He didn't commit violent crimes, he committed treason. " Against the war in Vietnam. Seems there were millions in that one, and with the publishing of the Pentagon papers, the books written by those who were involved, the admissions of mistakes, even the admittance of military misleading of the President by the highest military at the time , the only ones who were doing the right thing here were those sent there and doing the fighting.. and of course those who didn't come back alive or did , but wounded in mind and body, lot of us there my friend. "but he's not a criminal. He's a traitor. He didn't commit violent crimes, he committed treason." You really are into the extremes my friend, especially on one who wasn't found guilty of such accusations , no technicality, just not found guilty. "Back off, back away, disavow, or go down to electoral defeat." It happens in our democratic elections, you win some, you lose some and after the election we go on , thank the lord the great majority of us are of normal mind on these things because a fringe collection of characters that you seem partial to, possible be the first to join them, minds et if you had the power to, would be to round up those now defeated ones and do away with them permanently so they would never bother the "good folk" again. No? ""and put a bullet in his head." Barack Obama's pal William Ayers." Pal? His small connection was known in Chicago for years, picked up by the right, the Bloggers, the ultra right as was the BS of where he was born, not born, no legal right to and as in those points, even by the legitimate opposition and the media, left , right , anything for a good story media, nothing was found to so indicate close to anything of the kind, close and even any relationship. If anything, not saying Ayers wasn't a extremest and involved in heavy things in his youth as are many folks, some main stream, some off stream, some real weird but in his later life he has , Ayers, has done remarkable good work for his fellow man, interesting character. Heres the link, most of you here haven't a clue who he is, so a short history lesson, long but skim it, that was a important period in our countries history, you all have heard about it. I believe many here have not lived it, read and learn what you parents, Uncles. Aunts Cousins, lived through and possible participated in. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers
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Post by mmhmm on Mar 7, 2011 7:30:38 GMT -5
I'll join! I've already said I have some socialistic views. According to some people that means I'm a communist! mmhmm, they are wrong! Having socialistic views would make you a socialist. Communism is a different ball of wax. I'm well aware of that, oldtex, as are you. However, there are some here who aren't quite aware of that, apparently.
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Post by burnsattornincan on Mar 7, 2011 8:11:37 GMT -5
Mr. Paul, you have my full support in this matter and as usual we see the liberals blowing it off and joking around as if they cannot comprehend what you are talking about. On another thread there was a post about Tea Partiers who say they want to "take back the country". Of course the liberals go back to their final option and say the Tea Party really means they want the black man out of office. In reality, "taking back the country" means defeating the entire system of corruption and self serving politicians who have been destroying this country for more than 100 years.
Here is another legal way to rid yourselves of more treasonous individuals. Mr. traelin0 had once cited a paragraph from the Constitution that states anyone who debased or attempted to debase the currency shall be executed. What do you think printing billions of fake dollars is doing to the USD? Exactly. Therefore the appropriate individuals at the FED and ones working directly with them on the "stimulus" initiative should be executed as per your Constitution. Now consider how far you have swayed from that document when the liberals laugh off this notion and call it crazy talk from a nutbar. Litigators have twisted the words beyond recognition. You can't even agree on what the definition of a legal citizen is. Too much diversity and differing opinions and not enough cohesion. That seems to be the major problem now.
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Post by ChiTownVenture on Mar 7, 2011 8:47:18 GMT -5
A interesting fact that many people seem to miss is that anyone politically connected in Chicago has some tie to Ayers. Ayers developed and pushes reform for inner city elementary education. A politician that is working to improve schools in Chicago has to work with Ayers, or an Ayers related foundation.
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Post by deziloooooo on Mar 7, 2011 9:18:50 GMT -5
A interesting fact that many people seem to miss is that anyone politically connected in Chicago has some tie to Ayers. Ayers developed and pushes reform for inner city elementary education. A politician that is working to improve schools in Chicago has to work with Ayers, or an Ayers related foundation. But that is always overlooked at , purposely, because the agenda isn't them but anything that can be put on the POTUS to diminish his standing. That is their agenda, and truthfully so many never really look deeper into the facts, either because the current POTUS isn't their cup of tea, so it fits into THEIR agenda, or they get their information from the latest sound bytes that are floated around, such as the post above , #71, that all this is in response too. Because some one says it's so doesn't make it so, but for many, that's what they hang their hat on.{sigh}
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 7, 2011 9:29:13 GMT -5
I provided the example of Van Jones. Let's look at another revolutionary-- in this case a violent revolutionary. Barack Obama's pal William Ayers. He got off scott free due to a legal technicality, but he's not a criminal. He's a traitor. He didn't commit violent crimes, he committed treason. We don't have an obligation to afford him a traditional trial where he is arrested, charged, and let off on a technicality. He is an insurrectionist, and the United States government would not only be within its rights, but would actually be doing its duty if-- even now-- the President of the United States ordered the Department of Defense to aprehend Mr. Ayers, give him a military trial, find him guilty of treason and put a bullet in his head. But I'm not even talking about that. I'm not even talking about going after these people. I'm talking about putting the left on the ropes and making them once and for all distance themselves from radical revolutionaries. I'm not talking about the revolutionaries themselves per se, but rather their "legitimate" counterparts in politics. Back off, back away, disavow, or go down to electoral defeat. When it comes to links to dangerous radicals, I think the left in particular has a lot of explaining to do. The Republican Party had to purge itself once upon a time when finally the disgusting rape, and subsequent death of a woman in Indiana by its Republican KKK governor finally shed a national light on the KKK, the Republican Party, and its association with the KKK. Time for a similar reformation on the left. Good stuff and I would only add that now the White House issued a statement after watching the Muslim protesters in NY Times Square: " Muslims and Jihardists are NOT part of the terrorism problems facing the United States but rather they are part of the solution".......However that comment by the Obama Administration just set Congressman Peter King's hair on fire and he wants to hold hearings to find out why the Muslims are NOT cooperating with law enforcement.. The Obama Administration's Deputy for National Security (Denis McDonough) has said that he wants to better understand the process of radicalization as well as further outreach to Muslims and lessen the misconceptions we have about Muslims in America..
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Post by workpublic on Mar 7, 2011 9:43:56 GMT -5
misconceptions we have about Muslims in America. like the misconception that muslims in America carried out 9/11?
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 7, 2011 9:49:03 GMT -5
formerexpat is in. Alphabetically, on the 2011 Radical Blacklist: billsonboard DarkHonor formerexpat Loopdilou mmhmm oped steff Tennesseer If you could please add Dezi to the list, that would about sum up the staunch supporters of the Constitution from the liberal interpretation camp. ;D Now, I want to say, is the liberals have totally hijacked a thread led by a moderator as the lead hijacker. Paul never mentioned anyone here. He is talking about the national Democratic party and their political motivation. Please address the post and quit mocking the message. What if we put 200,000 people on the Washington Mall next week and demanded a change in the Presidency, as happened in the Middle East the last two months? According to our President, a few thousand protesters demonstrated in the streets of Cairo demanding the Government get out, and he voiced the opinion, the people had spoken, for the entire country. By this standard, would he follow suit? Obviously not. In 2012, we will see the sweat on his brow in the first week of November, when he will be asking Ayres and a few other radicals, "where did it all go wrong?"
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 7, 2011 9:53:44 GMT -5
Obama wants to build stronger relations with the Muslims both internationally and in the United States and this was his promise in 2009 when he took the oath of office as our 44th President of the United States.
But so far the Obama Administration has NOT issued any statements about their strategy for countering the violent extremism in the US by the Islamic Fundamentalists which has both non muslims and muslms wondering "Where is Obama on this issue?" "Where is his LEADERSHIP?"... He can only say that this is a complex issue and he is studying the advice he receives from his National Security Advisors... Just a few weeks ago we saw that a college student from Saudi Arabia brought explosive materials online and planned to blow up dams, and nuclear plants and the home of former President George W. Bush...was he recruited by homegrown Muslim terrorists??? Where was the Muslim Community on this case??
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 7, 2011 9:55:38 GMT -5
Now, I want to say, is the liberals have totally hijacked a thread led by a moderator as the lead hijacker. Paul never mentioned anyone here. He is talking about the national Democratic party and their political motivation. Please address the post and quit mocking the message.Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=politics&thread=4381&page=3#ixzz1FvSlS8x7VB the hijacking and mocking those they disagree with is something you just have to ignore and consider who the sources are...if you can understand their comments or distortions which is not at all easy ....so why try?? BTW we are NOT allowed to be critical of any Moderators which will result in being banned from this message board....thread carefully or go around that one, I guess?? Speaking of Moderators.....what ever happened to Diverdown34??
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Post by burnsattornincan on Mar 7, 2011 10:05:30 GMT -5
According to our President, a few thousand protesters demonstrated in the streets of Cairo demanding the Government get out, and he voiced the opinion, the people had spoken, for the entire country. By this standard, would he follow suit?
That is an excellent point Mr. Value Buy and you deserve a point from me. /Dalton
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 7, 2011 10:13:32 GMT -5
So what Hundreds of protestors in New York's Times Square demonstrated against the United States yesterday because of our attitude towards Islamic radicalization and labeled us as "Xenophobic"
Hell some of us Ole Veterans of our countries wars have been called much worse than being "Xenophobic"...
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 7, 2011 10:18:04 GMT -5
Now, I want to say, is the liberals have totally hijacked a thread led by a moderator as the lead hijacker. Paul never mentioned anyone here. He is talking about the national Democratic party and their political motivation. Please address the post and quit mocking the message.Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=politics&thread=4381&page=3#ixzz1FvSlS8x7VB the hijacking and mocking those they disagree with is something you just have to ignore and consider who the sources are...if you can understand their comments or distortions which is not at all easy ....so why try?? BTW we are NOT allowed to be critical of any Moderators which will result in being banned from this message board....thread carefully or go around that one, I guess?? Speaking of Moderators.....what ever happened to Diverdown34?? P.I. You are correct. I apologize to the entire board. My Conservatism/Libertarian streak got the best of me. I should have pm'd the moderator. I would delete the post, but the responses would all be sort of lost, so I will let it stand, and try to do better next time.
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Post by marjar on Mar 7, 2011 10:23:14 GMT -5
Add me. People have been telling me I'm a socialist for years.
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Post by Loopdilou on Mar 7, 2011 10:26:58 GMT -5
Add me. People have been telling me I'm a socialist for years.
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Post by mmhmm on Mar 7, 2011 10:33:14 GMT -5
Paul never mentioned anyone here. He is talking about the national Democratic party and their political motivation. Please address the post and quit mocking the message. Perhaps, if paul would refer to the Democratic party instead of using the term "dems" (a very general term which infers all Democrats), this sort of thing wouldn't occur. Painting with a broad brush usually ends by getting paint where you don't want paint.
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Post by Loopdilou on Mar 7, 2011 10:36:18 GMT -5
And as I am an elected member of the party (on a local level) either way he puts it, it would still be about me
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Post by marjar on Mar 7, 2011 10:37:38 GMT -5
Paul never mentioned anyone here. He is talking about the national Democratic party and their political motivation. Please address the post and quit mocking the message. Perhaps, if paul would refer to the Democratic party instead of using the term "dems" (a very general term which infers all Democrats), this sort of thing wouldn't occur. Painting with a broad brush usually ends by getting paint where you don't want paint. Use of quantifiers is also a good thing. Words such as some, many, few, etc make the paint brush smaller.
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