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Post by Tiny on Jan 10, 2015 20:48:38 GMT -5
Why must something offensive be responded to with violence? Isn't violence offensive? Does that mean it really come down to something along the lines of 'Might makes Right'?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 21:11:28 GMT -5
The proper response to (variations of) "Your Prophet sucks" is (variations of) "No, your Prophet sucks".
Words should never require escalation to physical violence. Only the ignorant take words and return violence.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 13, 2015 7:56:18 GMT -5
Why must something offensive be responded to with violence? Isn't violence offensive? Does that mean it really come down to something along the lines of 'Might makes Right'? Remember when radical Christians killed that artist for displaying a crucifix in a jar of urine? Neither do I.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 13, 2015 9:04:21 GMT -5
With a regime like this choc full of people like Valerie Jarrett, Van Jones, and Cass Sunstein- my guess is that America will move in the opposite direction. Our absence in Paris speaks volumes, but it especially booming in light of the NSA spying which goes on, the push for an internet "kill switch", and the push for net neutrality which will basically END the free exchange of ideas on the internet making the web unrecognizable from its current format which is largely unregulated, untaxed, free, and open. To know where Obama is going, you need only understand who he surrounds himself with. Cass Sunstein authored a paper proposing that the government use a variety of methods to limit or eliminate conspiracy theories critical of the U.S. government. These methods suggested that the government could: ban conspiracy theories outright impose a tax on those who advance conspiracy theories engage in counter-speech to "discredit conspiracy theories and theorists" hire private parties to engage in counter-speech engage in informal communication with such private parties, encouraging them to help Added Sunstein: "Our main policy claim here is the government should engage in cognitive infiltration of the groups that produce conspiracy theories." In 2008 Sunstein served as an advisor for Barack Obama’s presidential campaign. After Obama’s 2009 inauguration, Sunstein was appointed to head the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs. In early August 2012, Sunstein announced that he would be leaving his administration post later that month, in order to return to the faculty of Harvard Law School. Sunstein is a contributing editor to The New Republic and The American Prospect and has frequently testified before congressional committees. Valerie Jarrett: A few days before the November 2012 presidential election, a representative from Jarrett's office quoted Jarrett as having told several senior staffers the following: “After we win this election, it’s our turn. Payback time. Everyone not with us is against us and they better be ready because we don’t forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded, the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve. There is going to be hell to pay. Congress won’t be a problem for us this time. No election to worry about after this is over and we have two judges ready to go.” Van Jones: Jones made clear his desire to incrementally socialize, by stealth, the U.S. economy: "Right now we say we want to move from suicidal gray capitalism to something eco-capitalism where at least we're not fast-tracking the destruction of the whole planet. Will that be enough? No, it won't be enough. We want to go beyond the systems of exploitation and oppression altogether ... until [the green economy] becomes the engine for transforming the whole society." He said that the "green economy" would emphasize "gender equity," in contrast to "the pollution-based economy" wherein women "are making 70 cents to the dollar" as compared to men. He said that the United States was built on land that had been "stolen" from "our Native American sisters and brothers," who had been "bullied and mistreated and shoved into all the land we didn't want, where it was all hot and windy." But under a "renewable energy" system (i.e. the solar and wind power), he explained, Native Americans would "now own and control 80 percent of the renewable energy resources." "Give them then wealth!" he shouted. "...We owe them a debt!" You can find this and other information on these and other radicals including Obama, and radical organizations at
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Post by djAdvocate on Jan 13, 2015 11:02:02 GMT -5
With a regime like this choc full of people like Valerie Jarrett, Van Jones, and Cass Sunstein- my guess is that America will move in the opposite direction. if Bush was "forward", then i say "AMEN".
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Post by Opti on Jan 13, 2015 11:47:11 GMT -5
Remember the when we discussed Christian militias killing Muslims? Oh wait, that hasn't happened yet... and its from 2014.
www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/10/central-african-republic-christian-militias-revenge
Children are reportedly targeted by Christian anti-balaka gangs set up in wake of attacks by Muslim Seleka rebels
They brought in the bodies one by one, laying them down on a white sheet concealed behind a flimsy black curtain. Among them was a man, probably in his 20s, his head twisted leftward, the skull dented on one side and cracked open on the other. The others also had fatal head injuries that stained the sheet crimson. The first flies began settling on the five corpses.
In the courtyard outside, voices were raised in anger and bewilderment. Mothers in pink and purple hijabs sobbed and wailed and a middle-aged man, possibly unused to naked shows of emotion, sat and gently wept. Finally the iron gate of the mosque was thrown open and the mourners surged forward to gaze at the dead. An imam, donning a plastic smock over his white robe, prepared to wash them while another man began cutting cotton shrouds for the day's burials.
The macabre scene in an area known as PK5 has become almost commonplace in Bangui, the humid and decaying capital of the Central African Republic (CAR),
As Africa prepares to mark next month's 20th anniversaries of the Rwandan genocide and the end of South African apartheid, what is happening in this long-neglected state is a reminder that forgiveness and reconciliation are easy words but hewn from rock over generations. Christian militias freely admit that theirs is an exercise in vengeance, an eye for an eye, and they will not stop until they have "cleaned" the country of Muslims. On Monday, UN human rights investigators in CAR announced they would investigate reports of genocide.
The seeds were sown in March last year when the Seleka, a largely Muslim rebel group, seized Bangui in a coup, installed the country's first Muslim president, Michel Djotodia, and terrorised the majority Christian population, killing men, women and children. In response, predominantly Christian forces known as the anti-balaka (balaka means machete in Sango, the local language) launched counterattacks against the Seleka and perceived Muslim collaborators.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2015 12:23:05 GMT -5
Remember the when we discussed Christian militias killing Muslims? Oh wait, that hasn't happened yet... and its from 2014.
www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/10/central-african-republic-christian-militias-revenge
Children are reportedly targeted by Christian anti-balaka gangs set up in wake of attacks by Muslim Seleka rebels
They brought in the bodies one by one, laying them down on a white sheet concealed behind a flimsy black curtain. Among them was a man, probably in his 20s, his head twisted leftward, the skull dented on one side and cracked open on the other. The others also had fatal head injuries that stained the sheet crimson. The first flies began settling on the five corpses.
In the courtyard outside, voices were raised in anger and bewilderment. Mothers in pink and purple hijabs sobbed and wailed and a middle-aged man, possibly unused to naked shows of emotion, sat and gently wept. Finally the iron gate of the mosque was thrown open and the mourners surged forward to gaze at the dead. An imam, donning a plastic smock over his white robe, prepared to wash them while another man began cutting cotton shrouds for the day's burials.
The macabre scene in an area known as PK5 has become almost commonplace in Bangui, the humid and decaying capital of the Central African Republic (CAR),
As Africa prepares to mark next month's 20th anniversaries of the Rwandan genocide and the end of South African apartheid, what is happening in this long-neglected state is a reminder that forgiveness and reconciliation are easy words but hewn from rock over generations. Christian militias freely admit that theirs is an exercise in vengeance, an eye for an eye, and they will not stop until they have "cleaned" the country of Muslims. On Monday, UN human rights investigators in CAR announced they would investigate reports of genocide.
The seeds were sown in March last year when the Seleka, a largely Muslim rebel group, seized Bangui in a coup, installed the country's first Muslim president, Michel Djotodia, and terrorised the majority Christian population, killing men, women and children. In response, predominantly Christian forces known as the anti-balaka (balaka means machete in Sango, the local language) launched counterattacks against the Seleka and perceived Muslim collaborators.
Surely they shouldn't launch counterattacks but quietly accept their slaughter.
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Post by Opti on Jan 13, 2015 12:34:26 GMT -5
No they shouldn't quietly accept their slaughter nor should they slaughter people who didn't do the attacks as retaliation. Do you think killing children is a good thing even in retaliation?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2015 12:58:04 GMT -5
No they shouldn't quietly accept their slaughter nor should they slaughter people who didn't do the attacks as retaliation. Do you think killing children is a good thing even in retaliation?
No. They should separate all the children 1st and just kill their parents. Get real Opti that's what happens in war, no matter which side you're on.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jan 14, 2015 12:11:07 GMT -5
With a regime like this choc full of people like Valerie Jarrett, Van Jones, and Cass Sunstein- my guess is that America will move in the opposite direction. if Bush was "forward", then i say "AMEN". Bush was just slower in the SAME direction. We've only ever been traveling over the cliff for the last 70 years. Obama just added nitro and a turbo.
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