Jake 48
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Post by Jake 48 on Dec 26, 2014 9:58:09 GMT -5
My background, firefighter/EMT, BS in Fire Science, certified as an fire instructor. I teach/coordinate an internship (10 credits for graduation) for high school seniors interested in the fire service as a career, run it like a bootcamp, set expectations high for their behavior in class and the drill yard, if they don't like it they are free to leave. Being held offsite from the high school is the best thing, if they act like adults, I'll treat them like an adult. Don't have to deal with the politics of the school department. I do have do deal with parents when a student is removed from the program, documentation of their grades, attendance and attitude is key. 2 students were removed from the internship for being arrested for B&E, one mother was pissed with me and told me I expect too much and expected her son to behave as if he actually worked in public safety. WTF? This position pays $40.00/hr, average 6 hours a week. I also teach at an EMT/Paramedic school, working in the "labs" for the hands on portion, bandaging, splinting, etc... These are adults that are paying good money for tuition and some of them don't get what is expected.This is frustrating. Pays $18.00/hr average about 6 hr a month, other than being an EMT there was no other requirement . teaching is rewarding, it keeps my core proficiency sharp, make a little extra money. So think outside the box for teaching opportunities, is there a way to apply your skill sets in adult education, lot of the voc/tech schools have programs for adult education, I like the idea of corporate teaching, another good avenue. Good luck with this endeavor!
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Post by mmhmm on Dec 26, 2014 10:04:15 GMT -5
HERE is the Troops to Teachers site for South Carolina. You might read through that. If you're looking to move south, SC isn't a bad choice. The weather is relatively mild and there are choices as to terrain and surroundings, from mountains and foothills to the beach.
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Post by gooddecisions on Dec 26, 2014 11:00:31 GMT -5
I know a lot of former military folks who are now in corporate training. Military experience translates very well.
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Post by Spellbound454 on Dec 26, 2014 12:03:01 GMT -5
I've taught 11-18 year olds in state Schools for the last 20 years. You have to be calm, patient, extremely well organised and have an excellent knowledge of your subject..... I have to say I love teaching. However, I don't know what it is like in the US (I'm in England) but in recent years we have been given so much extra work scrutiny that we are drowning under a mountain paper work. I'm well paid but frequently putting in 50/60 hours per week... just to keep up. If I left....and I'm thinking about it.....its not because I don't care about the kids, or I'm not a good teacher It's because I'm overworked and exhausted most of the time. I think teaching young adults in small groups might be different....because you would have the hormonal issues that 13/14 year olds might have. and some people find themselves in a very suitable and rewarding position. I suppose the decision would depends on personal strengths...and available opportunities. ![](http://images.proboards.com/new/smiley.png)
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Post by happyhoix on Dec 29, 2014 10:05:37 GMT -5
Joe I think you might struggle with the level of disrespect present in a lot of schools.
I had a friend who as a high school librarian. She got into an argument with one of the kids and he called her the C word. Without thinking, she slapped him - and the parents sued. Ultimately the lawyer for the school system handled it and she wasn't on the hook for any money, personally, but it took a couple years to work through the legal system and she was very stressed out by the whole thing. She would have left the profession if she had any other job skills.
I think Jake 48 had a good suggestion with the adult learning thing - my previous neighbor was retired Miami Florida police who specialized in tracking child predators on the internet. He translated his computer experience into teaching computer classes at the local community college. When you have adults paying money to attend a class you have a lot less of the smart ass attitude you can run into at the middle school and high school level, when you have kids who don't really want to be there, and parents who don't provide discipline.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Dec 29, 2014 11:27:25 GMT -5
This is something I'm interested (possibly) in doing someday... though at the university/college level. I've already a lot of experience teaching undergradute/graduate classes and residents, but only as part of my clinical role. Never as my paycheck actually coming from 'teaching.' I'm sure that would be a rude awakening. But possibly I could fit the requirements needed (since I have no teaching certificates but I do have a Ph.D.). I could see myself teaching 3 classes a semester... summers off... might not be a bad gig if I could do it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 17:21:24 GMT -5
Joe I think you might struggle with the level of disrespect present in a lot of schools. I had a friend who as a high school librarian. She got into an argument with one of the kids and he called her the C word. Without thinking, she slapped him - and the parents sued. The parents should sue, and I hope they won. Any adult that would slap a "child," even a "child" that is taller or larger than she/he is, has no business working with kids. "Without thinking" isn't an excuse nor is the "level of disrespect." If you had said the kid had shoved her or something physical, that might be different. But not words.
Wouldn't you guys be charged with assault if you slapped someone who worked for you because they called you a name, even if it was an ugly one? ![](http://syonidv.hodginsmedia.com/vsmileys/idunno.gif)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 17:26:47 GMT -5
This is something I'm interested (possibly) in doing someday... though at the university/college level. I've already a lot of experience teaching undergradute/graduate classes and residents, but only as part of my clinical role. Never as my paycheck actually coming from 'teaching.' I'm sure that would be a rude awakening. But possibly I could fit the requirements needed (since I have no teaching certificates but I do have a Ph.D.). I could see myself teaching 3 classes a semester... summers off... might not be a bad gig if I could do it. Unless you are somehow the exception, even with the PhD, you would be an adjunct. I think that pays $3000 a 3-hour course maximum around here these days. Some places pay a lot less. The most that you are usually allowed to teach are four courses.
$18,000 to $24,000 with no benefits except for summers off sounds terrible to me, but I know how much preparation and grading goes into that 3-hour class.
They've done several articles on the plight of the adjunct lately. They really are taken advantage of.
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Post by tskeeter on Dec 30, 2014 19:14:17 GMT -5
thanks all, now you have me wondering....
insubordination I would have trouble with (if there were no repurcussions)....that was one of the problems I had at my current job I'm with Zib. I have concerns about career military folks going into teaching. Especially folks who have been officers. I think that officers in particular find the lack of discipline and personal accountability of both kids and parents challenging. (To say nothing of dealing with the administrative hassles.) I come from a large family of educators. Both parents, uncles, cousins, in-laws, extended family, and many, many long time close friends, all teachers. Dad even supervised student teachers while he was working on his doctorate. And for three years I went to a school that was just a few blocks off of campus, so I had lots of student teachers. So I've had quite a bit of exposure to the education system from a student standpoint, and from the educator side of the coin. For someone with your background who is serious about teaching, you might consider trying to set up a situation where you can shadow a teacher for a week or more so that you can assess whether being a classroom teacher would be a good fit for you. To make arrangements to do this, I'd pick a college with an education program and work through the person who coordinates the student teaching process to make contact with a school that will let you shadow a teacher. If you decide that a school classroom isn't for you, there are other opportunties for people with an interest in teaching. Jobs such as being a corporate trainer. Or a trainer with a consulting company. Or doing community education classes on a wide variety of topics, everything from personal finance to living/retiring outside the US.
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Post by HoneyBBQ on Dec 30, 2014 20:17:22 GMT -5
This is something I'm interested (possibly) in doing someday... though at the university/college level. I've already a lot of experience teaching undergradute/graduate classes and residents, but only as part of my clinical role. Never as my paycheck actually coming from 'teaching.' I'm sure that would be a rude awakening. But possibly I could fit the requirements needed (since I have no teaching certificates but I do have a Ph.D.). I could see myself teaching 3 classes a semester... summers off... might not be a bad gig if I could do it. Unless you are somehow the exception, even with the PhD, you would be an adjunct. I think that pays $3000 a 3-hour course maximum around here these days. Some places pay a lot less. The most that you are usually allowed to teach are four courses.
$18,000 to $24,000 with no benefits except for summers off sounds terrible to me, but I know how much preparation and grading goes into that 3-hour class.
They've done several articles on the plight of the adjunct lately. They really are taken advantage of.
Hmmm. Yeah, that's pretty low. I do some teaching at a local college around here and got $1500 for a summer class but I just did it for fun, not for the money. Kinda funny, I'd make more teaching kids if I got my teaching certificate. I guess it's the over proliferation of people with PhDs sitting around with nothing to do lol.
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