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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 4, 2011 10:56:17 GMT -5
This is INSANE. We'd better clearly define our culture, our values, and our laws and codify the criminality of such behavior. We don't export our children for arranged marriages in Pakistan-- and adults who merely conspire to do this should be executed. Arranged marriages of 13 year olds? 'Honor' killings? We better wake up. latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/03/girl-who-hid-in-motel-to-avoid-pakistani-arranged-marriage-in-protective-custody.html“Bender family members misled detectives and withheld critical information and as a result delayed the investigation and recovery of their daughter Jesse Bender," sheriff’s spokeswoman Roxanne Walker said in a news release. “It was revealed that a member of the Bender family concealed Jess in the town of Apple Valley out of fear that she would be taken to Pakistan for an arranged marriage."
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 4, 2011 11:02:18 GMT -5
This is INSANE. We'd better clearly define our culture, our values, and our laws and codify the criminality of such behavior. We don't export our children for arranged marriages in Pakistan-- and adults who merely conspire to do this should be executed. Arranged marriages of 13 year olds? 'Honor' killings? We better wake up. latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/03/girl-who-hid-in-motel-to-avoid-pakistani-arranged-marriage-in-protective-custody.html“Bender family members misled detectives and withheld critical information and as a result delayed the investigation and recovery of their daughter Jesse Bender," sheriff’s spokeswoman Roxanne Walker said in a news release. “It was revealed that a member of the Bender family concealed Jess in the town of Apple Valley out of fear that she would be taken to Pakistan for an arranged marriage." We need vouchers so parents can have absolute control over their children's schooling. We need government intervene so parents do not have absolute control over their children's social life.
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Post by Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ on Mar 4, 2011 11:04:46 GMT -5
We need government intervene so parents do not have absolute control over their children's social life
You mean like preventing parents from forcing a child into an illegal situation.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 4, 2011 11:17:16 GMT -5
This is INSANE. We'd better clearly define our culture, our values, and our laws and codify the criminality of such behavior. We don't export our children for arranged marriages in Pakistan-- and adults who merely conspire to do this should be executed. Arranged marriages of 13 year olds? 'Honor' killings? We better wake up. latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/03/girl-who-hid-in-motel-to-avoid-pakistani-arranged-marriage-in-protective-custody.html“Bender family members misled detectives and withheld critical information and as a result delayed the investigation and recovery of their daughter Jesse Bender," sheriff’s spokeswoman Roxanne Walker said in a news release. “It was revealed that a member of the Bender family concealed Jess in the town of Apple Valley out of fear that she would be taken to Pakistan for an arranged marriage." We need vouchers so parents can have absolute control over their children's schooling. We need government intervene so parents do not have absolute control over their children's social life. C'mon. Really? School choice = arranged marriages for 14 year olds? Bit of a stretch even for you.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 4, 2011 11:22:07 GMT -5
And I didn't say "prosecute". I said execute. You don't not only don't walk away, you don't wake up from even conspiring to marry off your minor daughter to someone in another country.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2011 11:30:01 GMT -5
This is the USA, the best fucking country in the god damn world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ on Mar 4, 2011 11:32:55 GMT -5
This is the USA, the best fucking country in the god damn world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I think Archie is being passively-aggressive and needs to go to his room for a few days.
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Post by floridayankee on Mar 4, 2011 11:33:39 GMT -5
This is the USA, the best fucking country in the god damn world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Imagine how much better it could be if we can get our citizens united again instead of constantly bickering, finger pointing and making silly, baseless accusations.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2011 11:34:53 GMT -5
The article was a bit vague about who was going to send her there, presumably a Pakistani family member? The girl is now in protective custudy. Such bevavior is criminal, and we do prosecute it. Other practices, such as genital mutilation and the smoking of Qat are also illegal, and prosucuted. Chopping off parts of a guys weiner should be oulawed too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 4, 2011 11:35:14 GMT -5
C'mon. Really? School choice = arranged marriages for 14 year olds? Bit of a stretch even for you. Parental control v governmental control. You seem to wish to have the government take control when you wish it to and not when you don't wish it to. BTW, I personally support neither vouchers nor arranged marriages.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2011 11:35:52 GMT -5
This is the USA, the best fucking country in the god damn world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Imagine how much better it could be if we can get our citizens united again instead of constantly bickering, finger pointing and making silly, baseless accusations. When were we ever united
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Post by swamp on Mar 4, 2011 11:43:29 GMT -5
The article was a bit vague about who was going to send her there, presumably a Pakistani family member? The girl is now in protective custudy. Such bevavior is criminal, and we do prosecute it. Other practices, such as genital mutilation and the smoking of Qat are also illegal, and prosucuted. Chopping off parts of a guys weiner should be oulawed too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Um, last time I checked, it was...........I'm pretty sure the law hasn't changed...........
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Post by Angel! on Mar 4, 2011 11:44:42 GMT -5
Chopping off parts of a guys weiner should be oulawed too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Um, last time I checked, it was...........I'm pretty sure the law hasn't changed........... Think circumcision, which is legal & we do it to our kids.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2011 11:45:01 GMT -5
Chopping off parts of a guys weiner should be oulawed too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Um, last time I checked, it was...........I'm pretty sure the law hasn't changed........... wachoo talking about wilis? weiners are chopped hundreds of thousands of times a day! Save the Weiner!!!!!
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Post by swamp on Mar 4, 2011 11:45:25 GMT -5
Oops, you're right. My bad. Am I gonna get prosecuted now?
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 4, 2011 11:51:41 GMT -5
Imagine how much better it could be if we can get our citizens united again instead of constantly bickering, finger pointing and making silly, baseless accusations. When were we ever united Maybe during WWII? Of course: Democrat 53.4% Republican 45.9% Democrat 52.9% Republican 45.7% Which is the results of the presidential election of 1944 in the middle of WWII and which is 2008?
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Post by Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ on Mar 4, 2011 11:54:03 GMT -5
Oops, you're right. My bad. Am I gonna get prosecuted now? Your just punishment will be to post a topless photo of yourself.
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Post by swamp on Mar 4, 2011 11:54:55 GMT -5
Oops, you're right. My bad. Am I gonna get prosecuted now? Your just punishment will be to post a topless photo of yourself. <<water on the monitor>>
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Post by Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ on Mar 4, 2011 11:59:08 GMT -5
<<water on the monitor>> ROFLMAO
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Mar 4, 2011 12:09:05 GMT -5
...as much as it pains me to support arranged marriages... but if this child is Pakistani, and is sent to Pakistan by her Pakistani family, to marry another Pakistani in Pakistan, where arranged marriages are acceptable, then what can the US authorities do about it? ...if the 13yo applied for refuge, then that is another matter entirely...
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Post by floridayankee on Mar 4, 2011 12:11:48 GMT -5
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 4, 2011 12:19:29 GMT -5
...as much as it pains me to support arranged marriages... but if this child is Pakistani, and is sent to Pakistan by her Pakistani family, to marry another Pakistani in Pakistan, where arranged marriages are acceptable, then what can the US authorities do about it? ...if the 13yo applied for refuge, then that is another matter entirely... Tough to tell based upon the young girl's full name. It was her Pakistani step-father who wanted to take her and the family to Pakistan.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2011 13:31:04 GMT -5
One day, and we had to get bombed and have 3000 killed.. I'd rather be ununited.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2011 13:35:43 GMT -5
Disgusting. Beautiful young lady. I hope the parent people are prosecuted for inventing a story to make the law search for their daughter so they coukld, basically, sell her in to slavery.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 4, 2011 14:32:41 GMT -5
The story reminds me of the FLDS Mormons of Arizona, Texas and Utah and their young girls. Disgusting.
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Mar 4, 2011 14:38:36 GMT -5
<<< The story reminds me of the FLDS Mormons of Arizona, Texas and Utah and their young girls. Disgusting. >>> ...I also shudder... but jurisdiction comes into play for those cases that may separate it from this one... and parental rights are one of those mountains some of us are willing to die on, so we fight for it for all parents... even the disgusting ones...
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 4, 2011 14:39:28 GMT -5
Religion Briefs 3/4/2011 Utah Child brides possibly brought in for Jeffs SALT LAKE CITY — An affidavit filed in a Canadian court case asserts that nine teen girls may have been brought from Canada to the U.S. to marry jailed polygamous sect leader Warren Jeffs and other men from his church. The 55-year-old Jeffs is head of the Utah-based Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. He's jailed in Texas awaiting trial on charges of sexual assault and bigamy. Prosecutors say Jeffs had sex with two children, one under age 14 and the other under age 17. A court entered not guilty pleas on his behalf. According to the affidavit filed last week, between 2004 and 2006 nine girls aged 12 to 18 were brought from Canada specifically for the weddings. The documents say at least three of the girls — two aged 12 and one aged 13 — were married to Jeffs. It's not clear from the records whether the girls are the same victims whose relationships with Jeffs are the basis for the Texas charges. All three of those marriage occurred in 2004, when Jeffs would have been 48. A telephone message left for Jeffs' Texas criminal attorney, Jeff Kearney, was not immediately returned. The information in the affidavit stems from church records seized by Texas authorities during a 2008 raid on the church's Yearning for Zion Ranch in Eldorado. The Canadian affidavit was filed by an attorney for the Ministry of Attorney General for British Columbia. The province's supreme court is in the middle of a monthslong inquiry to decide whether a ban on polygamy is a violation of constitutionally protected religious rights. www.reporternews.com/news/2011/mar/03/wire_religion_briefs/
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 4, 2011 14:42:25 GMT -5
<<< The story reminds me of the FLDS Mormons of Arizona, Texas and Utah and their young girls. Disgusting. >>> ...I also shudder... but jurisdiction comes into play for those cases that may separate it from this one... and parental rights are one of those mountains some of us are willing to die on, so we fight for it for all parents... even the disgusting ones... I agree. No underage children anywhere in the world should be forced into a marriage. I am not too keen on arranged marraiges either. But if it is not against the law in any one specific country what can one do.
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Post by mmhmm on Mar 4, 2011 14:47:43 GMT -5
There was fear this child would be taken to Pakistan for an arranged marriage. No action in that direction had been taken, apparently. As to what country this is ... this is a country in which one can't be jailed, or executed, for one's thoughts.
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Post by ed1066 on Mar 4, 2011 14:55:29 GMT -5
Only difference here is that the courts and the media will give this story a pass since the perpetrators are members of a protected class (Muslims)
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