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Post by Value Buy on May 3, 2016 12:41:09 GMT -5
We had another portion of the nest fall yesterday. There is enough room for one comfortably, two if you squeezed them together. There will have to be a real effort to rebuild the nest between now and November. It will be like a segment of a house flip on HGTV. Could be a total tear down and start over. The young ones are high in the pine talking to each other. Pretty sunny and hot for them.
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Post by Value Buy on May 9, 2016 8:35:02 GMT -5
I take a day off from looking in on the Eaglets, and all heck breaks out. Seems both eaglets were attacked by an owl at night, in the tree branches and E8 has not been found or seen since the attack. These birds have both fledged so they can fly, but people are saying there were multiple attacks in the middle of the night. It would be terrible to lose one at this point, but it is nature in the wild.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on May 9, 2016 9:34:02 GMT -5
One of the viewers recorded where E8 was attacked by an owl twice. He loses his grip after the second hit and falls. Hasn't been seen since. I hate to be the pessimist, but at this point I think it's RIP E8.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on May 17, 2016 15:23:59 GMT -5
It turns out E8 made it. From the chat forum: Around 3:30am on May 7 E8 was knocked from nest tree and was eventually rescued by 3 CROW searchers on May 13. Exam showed E8 had a broken right leg femur and was operated on May 14. Procedure went well. May 16 CROW update: E8 still in critical condition, receiving supportive care. Check out SWFEC’s or CROW’s Facebook page or bit.ly/1TT2wTU for photos.
CROW: E8 has been quiet, alert and responsive. Was fed soft pieces of rat today and observed hock sitting or laying flat. E8 moved to larger enclosure to encourage movement. Receiving pain meds. Positive signs, but remains critical and guarded. I think it's about time for an official amendment to their disclaimer: "Eagles are wild birds and anything can happen in the wild. The Southwest Florida Eagle Camera (SWFEC) does not interfere or intervene and allows nature to take its course. You will see life and you might see death, but this is nature at her finest. ...except if an eagle gets its foot stuck in some nesting material, in which case an army of support workers will swoop in to remedy the situation and provide medical care ...or if an eagle gets knocked of its nest by an owl and breaks its leg, in which case we'll call in the National Guard, splint its leg, and nurse it back to health 24/7 at the eagle equivalent of Club Med ...but aside from that, absolutely no intervention. Nature must take its course."
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Post by sesfw on May 18, 2016 21:53:09 GMT -5
When one of the Catalina Island babies get injured they are rehabbed if possible. I know they have 2 eagles that have not been able to return to the wild so they are kept for education for the visitors ........ and they are pampered.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on May 18, 2016 22:04:07 GMT -5
When one of the Catalina Island babies get injured they are rehabbed if possible. I know they have 2 eagles that have not been able to return to the wild so they are kept for education for the visitors ........ and they are pampered. If the SWFEC and CROW people came on and said "E8 is on the ground with a broken femur, but we're letting nature take its course and not doing anything", with all honesty you'd get somebody within driving distance of the nesting site (I'm sure there are hundreds, given how popular the feed is) heading over there and taking matters into their own hands, legal or not. I can almost guarantee it. A lot of the chatters clearly love the eagles as much as they love pets. Hence in that regard it makes sense that the "authorities" just intervene. They should take down their disclaimer, though. It's plainly not true.
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 27, 2016 23:36:04 GMT -5
Value Buy-you have not been keeping us updated. Harriet is about to become a mom again. link
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 27, 2016 23:49:55 GMT -5
Value Buy -you have not been keeping us updated. Harriet is about to become a mom again. link Sorry about that. Nice to see you have kept up to date on them. The close up of the eggs tonight are amazing. the eggs look cleaner and bright white, than the chicken eggs we buy at the store! The eagle talons standing over the eggs are huge, as are the mosquitoes hovering around them!
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 27, 2016 23:55:22 GMT -5
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Post by Tennesseer on Dec 28, 2016 1:02:21 GMT -5
Value Buy -you have not been keeping us updated. Harriet is about to become a mom again. link Sorry about that. Nice to see you have kept up to date on them. The close up of the eggs tonight are amazing. the eggs look cleaner and bright white, than the chicken eggs we buy at the store! The eagle talons standing over the eggs are huge, as are the mosquitoes hovering around them! Actually, I have not bee following it. But someone posted a video on Facebook and it mentioned Harriet and then I went looking for this thread and the link in the OP and saw it was a current nest.
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 31, 2016 9:15:20 GMT -5
We have an eaglet this morning! Officially hatched around 7:33AM eastern time.
Now the fun begins! I think this has been the most watched anticipated hatching on record. All news, local or national have been doing blurbs on it the last few days, and it is streaming live on utube.
There is concern on the first egg. The monitors of the nest say this is egg number two that hatched, and egg number one is past due, so there is some hysteria with watchers already.
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Post by Value Buy on Dec 31, 2016 15:10:27 GMT -5
The little one is so cute with all the fluffy feathers on it. It was up against the unhatched egg right now imitating a bobblehead.
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Post by justme on Dec 31, 2016 17:40:12 GMT -5
Every time I've seen this in the news lately I'm like I've known about this for years, why is it suddenly news.
And I wanna yell at the people who are all like why is the male just M15? Why doesn't he have a cute couple name.
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Post by Value Buy on Jan 13, 2017 10:37:30 GMT -5
Well, this year is sort of boring. We only have one eaglet, so no fighting for food or head bonking. This bird is probably going to never know what it is like to be hungry.......it is already a large eaglet-had a food coma yesterday, splayed out in the nest. Since this nest has gone global, it is virtually impossible to get into the discussion board, and that is the only way you can view the discussion, other than the first page that is shown when you show up on the site.
I wonder if being an only sibling makes learning "needed survival skills" a little more problematic for it. No sibling to work the kinks out with.
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 11, 2017 8:13:49 GMT -5
If anyone is interested in the eagle cam, better check in soon. The eaglet branched this week. Soon it will be taking off on it's own. As I had commented earlier this year, very boring year with only one eaglet in the nest. No real drama! We had a serious fire in a wildlife are east of Naples this week.
7,500 acres burning out of control, spreading smoke across a vast swath of the Naples area for a few days.
I imagine some eagle nests were destroyed this year. Since the young are not strong to fly on their own, I imagine we saw many perish. Black Bear and possibly Panther territory was destroyed.
Fire was strong enough to close I-75 for two days due to smoke at the beginning of Alligator alley where it turns to cross the state to Miami.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Mar 11, 2017 8:27:53 GMT -5
Sorry about the eagles and fires. I have fraternity brothers in Naples but didn't know about the fires. Two years ago we had 12 eagles found dead in a field. They figured they had eaten poison. The nearby farmers denied using poison for rodent control and no dead prey were found. Blackwater National Wild Refuge is near here and we've seen more eagles lately.
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 11, 2017 19:43:54 GMT -5
I think the fire is 75% contained, and the prevailing winds have slowed down and reversed back towards the fire are, thus depriving the fire of new flammable material.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 12, 2017 6:44:26 GMT -5
If anyone is interested in the eagle cam, better check in soon. The eaglet branched this week. Soon it will be taking off on it's own. As I had commented earlier this year, very boring year with only one eaglet in the nest. No real drama! We had a serious fire in a wildlife are east of Naples this week. 7,500 acres burning out of control, spreading smoke across a vast swath of the Naples area for a few days. I imagine some eagle nests were destroyed this year. Since the young are not strong to fly on their own, I imagine we saw many perish. Black Bear and possibly Panther territory was destroyed. Fire was strong enough to close I-75 for two days due to smoke at the beginning of Alligator alley where it turns to cross the state to Miami. Sorry... you have panthers in Florida? ETA: I guess it's just what everyone else calls a cougar. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_panther
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Post by dezailoooooo on Mar 13, 2017 6:48:48 GMT -5
When one of the Catalina Island babies get injured they are rehabbed if possible. I know they have 2 eagles that have not been able to return to the wild so they are kept for education for the visitors ........ and they are pampered. If the SWFEC and CROW people came on and said "E8 is on the ground with a broken femur, but we're letting nature take its course and not doing anything", with all honesty you'd get somebody within driving distance of the nesting site (I'm sure there are hundreds, given how popular the feed is) heading over there and taking matters into their own hands, legal or not. I can almost guarantee it. A lot of the chatters clearly love the eagles as much as they love pets. Hence in that regard it makes sense that the "authorities" just intervene. They change disclaimer to "mostly let nature take it's course"...Problem solved
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Post by dezailoooooo on Mar 13, 2017 6:50:16 GMT -5
If the SWFEC and CROW people came on and said "E8 is on the ground with a broken femur, but we're letting nature take its course and not doing anything", with all honesty you'd get somebody within driving distance of the nesting site (I'm sure there are hundreds, given how popular the feed is) heading over there and taking matters into their own hands, legal or not. I can almost guarantee it. A lot of the chatters clearly love the eagles as much as they love pets. Hence in that regard it makes sense that the "authorities" just intervene. They change disclaimer to "mostly let nature take it's course"...Problem solved They change disclaimer to "mostly let nature take it's course"...Problem solved
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 13, 2017 8:09:29 GMT -5
If anyone is interested in the eagle cam, better check in soon. The eaglet branched this week. Soon it will be taking off on it's own. As I had commented earlier this year, very boring year with only one eaglet in the nest. No real drama! We had a serious fire in a wildlife are east of Naples this week. 7,500 acres burning out of control, spreading smoke across a vast swath of the Naples area for a few days. I imagine some eagle nests were destroyed this year. Since the young are not strong to fly on their own, I imagine we saw many perish. Black Bear and possibly Panther territory was destroyed. Fire was strong enough to close I-75 for two days due to smoke at the beginning of Alligator alley where it turns to cross the state to Miami. Sorry... you have panthers in Florida? ETA: I guess it's just what everyone else calls a cougar. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_panther I did not want to really bring that up to you No, I do not have a panther in Florida. The state does have them. They are a protected species and their number in the wilds is very small because they have a tendency to run across roads in front of speeding cars and trucks who refuse to drive the speed limit, or slow down for them. The Black bear population here is very substantial. They even hunt them legally because they have so many running amok!
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 13, 2017 10:49:38 GMT -5
I did not want to really bring that up to you No, I do not have a panther in Florida. The state does have them. They are a protected species and their number in the wilds is very small because they have a tendency to run across roads in front of speeding cars and trucks who refuse to drive the speed limit, or slow down for them. The Black bear population here is very substantial. They even hunt them legally because they have so many running amok! I think of a panther as a black jungle cat. Definitely not something found in Canada or the US. Cougars, on the other hand, I'm familiar with. We had quite a few of them around us in Bragg Creek where I grew up. Black bears too. Seeing as "Florida panthers" are a type of cougar, I'm not shocked by their presence in Florida.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2017 13:02:10 GMT -5
I did not want to really bring that up to you No, I do not have a panther in Florida. The state does have them. They are a protected species and their number in the wilds is very small because they have a tendency to run across roads in front of speeding cars and trucks who refuse to drive the speed limit, or slow down for them. The Black bear population here is very substantial. They even hunt them legally because they have so many running amok! I think of a panther as a black jungle cat. Definitely not something found in Canada or the US. Cougars, on the other hand, I'm familiar with. We had quite a few of them around us in Bragg Creek where I grew up. Black bears too. Seeing as "Florida panthers" are a type of cougar, I'm not shocked by their presence in Florida. Black ?
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 13, 2017 14:44:44 GMT -5
Well... anything can be an albino.
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 15, 2017 17:29:56 GMT -5
The last two days have been interesting.
E 9 was branching yesterday, and accidently fledged on a windy day, and was not prepared. Spent most of the day on the ground in the pasture.
Today it has gotten back into a tree and branching around. Another windy day in the pines. Branches are moving around in the wind
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 15, 2017 18:05:21 GMT -5
Do they ever actually name the eaglets at some point? And has M15 been named? It would appear not. I got another good laugh, though. Literally right under their "SWFEC does not interfere or intervene and allows nature to take its course" disclaimer, they've got the tales of E8's multiple rescues and rehabilitations. The bird has spent more time in the medical bay than it has in the wild. E9 is a noisy thing, if he's the one on camera now. SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEE-EEE! SCREEEEEEEEEEEE-EEEEEEEEEEE!
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 16, 2017 6:37:23 GMT -5
Do they ever actually name the eaglets at some point? And has M15 been named? It would appear not. I got another good laugh, though. Literally right under their "SWFEC does not interfere or intervene and allows nature to take its course" disclaimer, they've got the tales of E8's multiple rescues and rehabilitations. The bird has spent more time in the medical bay than it has in the wild. E9 is a noisy thing, if he's the one on camera now. SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEE-EEE! SCREEEEEEEEEEEE-EEEEEEEEEEE! The first year or two of the camera they did name them. The Pritchett family made the decision to numerically list them because too many viewers humanized the birds in their minds, so they became numbers. In fact the juvenile (non adult) eagles that fly in the area are always being thought of as possibly some of Harriet's offspring, but since all juveniles look alike, there is no way of knowing if they are or not, and they never inner act with juveniles. Once eaglets leave the nest area, they are on their own. SWFEC does not interfere with the eagles. The property is on private land on Bayshore road and the cameras are operated by the mods and Pritchett family. The mods are strictly volunteers loosely over seen by the Pritchett family. Federal law does not allow private citizens to interfere with the nest or eagles. If a bird is injured or missing it does get reported to authorities. I imagine CROW monitored the situation last year with the fishline situation and decide to intervene to save it. Last year when an eaglet died, it was left in the nest, and eventually fed to the remaining Eaglet. Naturally there was an out cry from viewers on the horror of cannibalism in the eagle world When Ozzie was originally injured two years ago, he was found across the river in Fort Myers. Injured birds are captured and sent to rehab if wounds are felt to be able to be treated. "Crow" a rehabilitation center on Sanibel Island came and captured him, and took him back for rehab. If ever visiting Sanibel Island I encourage everyone to stop for a tour. It is worth the time imo. Viewers paid for fresh salmon (yes salmon which is not even their diet here) to be shipped there is such quantities to pay for his feeding they asked viewers to stop, because they had more fresh fish than they could deal with When visiting the nest, it is interesting. You are able to park in the expanded driveway along the pasture and stay all day if you want. The nest is maybe 50 to 60 yards from the fence, line, and the eaglets are as noisy as you hear on the video feed. Sometimes an adult will sit in a tree close to the nest but even closer to the visitors, and the adults talk to each other from their positions. Very interesting dynamics. It is an active horse pasture, with several horses roaming around. You seem so close you feel your are at the zoo, but without the cage. The adults are wild, but seem to realize people are not an enemy here, although loud conversations, or car horn alarms going off do spook them. Other visitors will tell you to keep low voices, etc... E 9 did make it back to the nest so the early fledging was not have a problem. If the young bird stayed on the ground, it was quite possible it would be killed by a predator and be a great part of the "circle of life" thing.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 16, 2017 8:45:18 GMT -5
Thanks for the rundown, VB.
I do understand it's not the real estate people intervening, but their disclaimer strongly gives the impression that que cera cera when it comes to the eagles living and dying when it's obviously not the case.
I don't mind the intervention, I just find the disclaimer comical in light of the repeated extraordinary rescue efforts.
When you say "too many viewers humanized the birds", why was it a problem? People anthropomorphize animals all the time. Frankly I don't see the process being affected by the animal being named, and I don't see why anthropomorphism is a problem.
If the problem is people getting upset when the eagles are hurt or killed, we saw that happen with the owl attack. People just have to deal with it.
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 16, 2017 9:05:35 GMT -5
Virgil, if you ever logged into the chat the last couple of years, it is similar to ymam where the mods have to herd the posters like a bunch of loose cats. If you are not particularly pc, you will be austracized. If you ask serious questions with a "negative bent" the mods will ask to keep it positive so other posters do not go off the reservation, or you scare the school children who actually are tuned in at school for a wildlife learning exercise. They even schedule chats with classrooms for educational experiences. Many times the kids ask better questions than the grown ups It is very much like right here...... When there were disturbances in the nest, such as head bonking, fighting for food, many times the mods would tell posters to turn it off for awhile and come back later. The posters expected the mods to somehow stop the fights....
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Mar 16, 2017 10:17:18 GMT -5
I've scanned the chat a few times, including the owl incident. I've never seen anything I'd consider nutty; just a bunch of people expressing routine concern.
But I'll take your word for it.
Out of morbid curiosity, can you give me an example of a question with a "negative bent"? Can you give me an example of something two posters fought about and what their positions were?
I ask because I'm having a hard time imagining how a question could lead to chaos or how something like eaglet head bonking could lead to a serious fight.
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