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Post by reasonfreedom on Mar 3, 2011 12:32:16 GMT -5
Would you please post some evidence of statistically significant terrorists of these "other stripes"? Because the very vast majority of them seem to have several specific things in common, which makes them of one "stripe"... HERE IS THE POST REQUESTING INFO FROM THE ORIGINAL POSTER Nice post, now PI will have to defend why he attacking our post and not adding to the progressive conversation of the topic. I am sure he could have ed go back and delete his post.
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Post by ChiTownVenture on Mar 3, 2011 12:33:05 GMT -5
I have no issue, you have the problem. I am posting information don't read it if you don't like it. I don't like to see discussions diverted by you and your ilk continuosly if you cannot join in a dicusssion then spread your Pro Muslim Propaganda someplace else.. we have been down this road before and who wants to have you shove all your Pro Muslim stuff on us here?? I don't and deal with it Dont read it then. I'm following along with the discussion. Apparently you have nothing to add.
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Post by reasonfreedom on Mar 3, 2011 12:35:52 GMT -5
I have no issue, you have the problem. I am posting information don't read it if you don't like it. I don't like to see discussions diverted by you and your ilk continuosly if you cannot join in a dicusssion then spread your Pro Muslim Propaganda someplace else.. we have been down this road before and who wants to have you shove all your Pro Muslim stuff on us here?? I don't and deal with it Chi, now you have ilk. Sounds like a conspiracy.
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 3, 2011 12:36:17 GMT -5
Dont read it then. I'm following along with the discussion. Apparently you have nothing to add. Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=politics&action=display&thread=4213&page=3#ixzz1FYj1PpFhThen discuss this subject..go for it One of the key focuses if the investigation will be to determine whether others were involved in the incident besides the shooter," Lapan said. Federal prosecutors said the suspect was accused of killing two U.S. military personnel and seriously injuring two others. "Given the circumstances, there is a suspicion that the act was motivated by Islamism," they said in a statement, without elaborating. Facebook evidence Rhein said the suspect's apartment and his computer have been searched and investigators were looking to shed further light on his motives. He said investigators believe the suspect had contact with other radical Muslims on Facebook "but there is no network in the sense of a terror cell." "There are signs that this is about a radicalized Muslim," he said www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41884024/ns/world_news-europe/
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Post by workpublic on Mar 3, 2011 12:40:22 GMT -5
investigators are searching for more clues as to why a Muslim, born in Kosovo but raised in Germany, opened fire on a busload of U.S. service members at Frankfurt International Airport. NBC’s Anne Thompson reports.
cause he's a pro muslim terrorist.
do i get a prize? ;D
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Post by ed1066 on Mar 3, 2011 12:40:26 GMT -5
Getting back to the OP, and off the anti-Christian zealots on the board, it appears the suspect in this attack is a native-born German muslim whose family has been in Germany for 40 years. This is the true definition of a Manchurian candidate or "sleeper" terrorist. The radical Islamists will no doubt continue to try to activate terrorists in Europe and the US who are native-born and thus less suspicious than recent imiigrants from terror states. I think this type of attack will become more common, especially as we have seen we clearly have left-wing apologists working overtime telling us there is nothing to fear from radical Islam... www.salon.com/news/terrorism/index.html?story=/news/feature/2011/03/03/eu_germany_us_airport_shooting
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Post by ChiTownVenture on Mar 3, 2011 12:41:13 GMT -5
I never said the only terrorists were muslim. I said the vast majority of modern terrorist attacks were perpetrated by muslims, and that is still true, whether you like it or not. In fact, many of the examples you posted while trying to refute my point were actually examples of muslim terror attacks... Correct the vast majority are Muslim, but also the vast majority are happening in the same few countries. Countries that are at war, or on the brink of war. There are a lesser amount of attacks that are not Muslim related that happen and that are still significant.
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 3, 2011 12:42:35 GMT -5
I don't like to see discussions diverted by you and your ilk continuosly if you cannot join in a dicusssion then spread your Pro Muslim Propaganda someplace else.. we have been down this road before and who wants to have you shove all your Pro Muslim stuff on us here?? I don't and deal with it Chi, now you have ilk. Sounds like a conspiracy. Is this the conspiracy you are refering to??
One of his Facebook friends said he knew little about him, though the magazine Der Spiegel reported that two weeks before the attacke he linked a jihadist fighter song on his Facebook pinwal
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 3, 2011 12:43:40 GMT -5
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 3, 2011 13:43:26 GMT -5
Safeharbor...... Good Stuff It has nothing to do with it. Haven't you noticed that some posters never post anything of substance, but only nit-pick the arguments of others, insert irrelevant [but sometimes accurate] information, and attack the beliefs of others. I've been observing this since the subject first became heated shortly after 9/11. On the old MSN boards these same people [maybe different individuals, but still the "same people."] have been apologists for Muslim extremists. I suspect that some of them are "academics," but that's a different issue. Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=politics&action=display&thread=4213&page=2#ixzz1FZ44fwdG
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Post by workpublic on Mar 3, 2011 14:01:32 GMT -5
Bravo Australia
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Post by workpublic on Mar 3, 2011 14:02:12 GMT -5
It has nothing to do with it. Haven't you noticed that some posters never post anything of substance, but only nit-pick the arguments of others, insert irrelevant [but sometimes accurate] information, and attack the beliefs of others.
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 3, 2011 14:06:01 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 3, 2011 17:02:58 GMT -5
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Post by ameiko on Mar 3, 2011 19:46:24 GMT -5
Who the bleeding hell said there were no muslim terrorists, krickitt? There are terrorists of every stripe. Nobody here has said there are not! Get over yourself! The Obama administration: they refuse to use the term. You can't even call it a war on Terror since terror isn't a real thing but a means of action. Of course, I can see Obama siding with his Muslim brothers...
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 4, 2011 11:14:06 GMT -5
KARLSRUHE, Germany — The pistol used by the suspect in the slaying of two U.S. airmen at the Frankfurt airport malfunctioned during the attack, preventing even greater loss of life, a German investigator said Friday. Suspect Arid Uka, a 21-year-old ethnic Albanian from Kosovo, refused to talk when formally charged Thursday before a judge with two counts of murder and three counts of attempted murder, but made lengthy statements to police shortly after the Wednesday attack, prosecutor Rainer Griesbaum said. "Preliminary evaluations and evidence show it was the act of an Islamist-inspired single perpetrator," Griesbaum said. "There is no evidence at the moment the act was coordinated with others or that he was a member of a terrorist organization." www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41902481/ns/world_news-europe/
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 4, 2011 19:23:39 GMT -5
The objective of those promoting global jihad is to inspire lone wolves, so islamist inspried = act of terrorism. An act whose purpose is to deter the west from action against the islamists, to inspire fear, to kill infidels- and in short, the last post makes my point. Let's review where we are today: news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110304/wl_afp/germanyuskosovoattacksI was RIGHT, many of you were WRONG. Again...
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 4, 2011 19:29:24 GMT -5
For the record, I never claimed he was part of a "group". To me, that's not necessary to define islamist terrorism. I said that when a muslim is involved in an attack on westerners, particularly members of the military, we are fools if we don't begin with the assumption that it's an islamist motivated by his radical beliefs. Period. It's a waste of time, resources, and most importantly- it leaves the public, law enforcement, and civilian government officials deliberately misinformed and unprepared to deal with the threat. Every chance these radicals give us to raise awareness of the near constant, near omnipresent threat by islamists-- we need to take it.
Rather than pretend that these are random acts of criminal behavior, we need to train our armed forces in public to be able to spot potential offenders-- to "profile" if you will-- in order to be ready to thwart the next attacker.
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Post by ty on Mar 4, 2011 19:38:55 GMT -5
I still have a problem with Americans protecting the rest of the world. These other countries need to be paying for these services or protect themselves from whatever. We really need to start taking care of America and the American people for a change. We cannot save the world.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 4, 2011 19:43:14 GMT -5
How much clearer does it have to be that this was not an act of terrorism.
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Post by vonnie6200 on Mar 4, 2011 19:53:43 GMT -5
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 4, 2011 19:58:01 GMT -5
An act designed and carried out to create a feeling of terror in a general population which will motivate that population to push for a political change.
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Post by vonnie6200 on Mar 4, 2011 20:03:47 GMT -5
terrorism: –noun 1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes. Sounds like terrorism to me. Unless of course you don't think jumping on a bus and killing somebody is considered violence, and also don't feel the war in Afghanistan has anything to do with politics. More my line of thinking.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 4, 2011 20:12:19 GMT -5
terrorism: –noun 1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes. Sounds like terrorism to me. Unless of course you don't think jumping on a bus and killing somebody is considered violence, and also don't feel the war in Afghanistan has anything to do with politics. German prosecutors said Friday a suspected Islamic radical shot dead two US airmen to avenge alleged atrocities in Afghanistan, and that more deaths were only prevented because his gun jammed. Now don't be sad 'cause two out of three ain't bad (but still doesn't make it terrorism.)
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Post by domeasingold on Mar 4, 2011 20:21:57 GMT -5
So when the European Union decides to take matters into their own hands and take out Gadaffi, the US will still get blamed.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 5, 2011 1:44:58 GMT -5
[/b]," Griesbaum said.[/size][/quote] I don't know how the fact that this was an act of terrorism could be made any more clear. –noun 1 . the use of violence and threats "the weapon and two knives" to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes "revenge for the American mission in Afghanistan."[/quote] Why do those words simply get ignored?
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 5, 2011 7:47:06 GMT -5
terrorism: –noun 1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes. Sounds like terrorism to me. Unless of course you don't think jumping on a bus and killing somebody is considered violence, and also don't feel the war in Afghanistan has anything to do with politics. Not to worry the Obama Administration is already playing down this incident and has a rough time calling this an act of Jirhardist Terrorism by another Muslim terrorists....but that ole song... we hear sung by Liberals again here NOT all Muslims are terrorists or we had other Christain fanatics do the same thing is known simply as Liberal speak again similar to what we saw during the 9/11 and pentagon attacks ..they even like to recall the Crusades or the Catholics as an excuse for this Islamic Fundamentalist Terrorist who killed two Air Force Personnel in Germany and who sadly wanted to kill more of OUR troops..
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 6, 2011 20:42:57 GMT -5
Again, I'm growing impatient with the useful idiots. The evidence is so clear, so convincing that the kind of idiocy that ignores it can almost be considered aiding and abetting the enemy.
Lone actor? Yes. Part of a wider conspiracy of radical islamic-inspired terrorism? Yes.
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Post by pappyjohn99 on Mar 7, 2011 5:57:19 GMT -5
The accused only attacked the soldiers because he thought members of the US armed forces had committed serious crimes
Timothy McViegh attacked the Federal building in Oklahoma in response to Federal government actions at Ruby Ridge and Waco. By your reasoning, McViegh is not a terrorist.
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