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Post by ChiTownVenture on Mar 3, 2011 9:08:41 GMT -5
A few more;
Lords Resistance Army
In May 2010 it was reported that an investigation was being undertaken by a senior UN official over the massacre of over 100 people in February 2010
In December, 2009, the LRA massacred "at least" 321 people in the Democratic Republic of Congo, according to a BBC investigation published in March, 2010
Efforts by the Ugandan army in early 2009 ('Operation Lightning Thunder') to inflict a final military defeat on the LRA were not fully successful. Rather, the US-supported operation resulted in brutal revenge attacks by the LRA, with over 1,000 people killed in Congo and Sudan.
On December 28, 2008, the Ugandan army published details of the Doruma attack, accusing LRA rebels of hacking to death 45 people in a church there
On December 25, 2008, the LRA massacred 189 people and abducted 120 children during a concert celebration sponsored by the Catholic church in Faradje
Individual Attacks
Yaakov Teitel an American-born Israeli, In 2009 Tietel was arrested and indicted for several acts of domestic terror, namely a pipe bomb attack against leftist intellectual Zeev Sternhell, the murders of a Palestinian taxi driver and a West Bank shepherd in 1997, and sending a booby-trapped package to the home of a Messianic Jewish family in Ariel.[27][28][29] A search of his home revealed a cache of guns and parts used in explosive devices.[30] As of January 2011, the case is still pending trial.
Ajmer Dargah Blast The blast was initially blamed on the Pakistani terrorist group LeT.[12] However, in 2010, The ATS arrested five individuals for the blast, four of whom were members of the Hindu Nationalist group RSS
Samjhauta Express bombing Initially the primary suspects of the bombing were considered to be Pakistan-based terror groups like the LeT and the JeM.[19] In November 2008, it was reported that Indian officials also suspected the attacks were linked to Prasad Shrikant Purohit, an Indian army officer and member of Hindu nationalist group Abhinav Bharat
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Post by mmhmm on Mar 3, 2011 9:15:19 GMT -5
I'd forgotten about the LRA, ChiTown. Thanks for citing it. Because of the current situation, it's easy to overlook the fact that terrorism is a mind set. It has nothing to do with one's spiritual beliefs, at its heart. It's about power and control. Some parents, sadly, terrorize their children. Some people terrorize their living partners, or spouses. Others terrorize entire groups of people who don't believe as they believe.
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Post by ChiTownVenture on Mar 3, 2011 9:19:29 GMT -5
There are quite a few nationalist terrorists and attacks that have happened over the past 4 years, they are easy to find (not listed previously).
I will concede that there are a lot of terrorists that claim to be Muslim and claim to be acting on behalf of the the Muslim religion.
There are also a lot of non Muslim related attacks. A majority of the Muslim attacks that are happening are happening in the Middle East countries that are predominately Muslim.
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Post by mmhmm on Mar 3, 2011 9:25:10 GMT -5
I think, as well, ChiTown, that many of those who claim to be Muslim, while they may be Islamics, are not doing what they're doing because of the Qu'ran. They're doing it because they want to be involved in all the excitement, bravado, and general chaos. They want to feel important and as though they're involved. Many are young people with too much time on their hands who are looking for a "cause". Just because you bellow a pertinent slogan doesn't mean that slogan really means something to you ... other than a means to an end, which is getting yourself into the middle of things.
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Post by workpublic on Mar 3, 2011 10:48:38 GMT -5
do you also believe that is what motivated the radical weathermen? the excitement and too much free time on their hands. we're they "looking for a cause" also? is that what motivated the agnostic mc veigh?
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Post by ed1066 on Mar 3, 2011 11:16:32 GMT -5
You do know that the Chechens are Muslim, right, as are the Somalians?
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 3, 2011 11:33:29 GMT -5
I think, as well, ChiTown, that many of those who claim to be Muslim, while they may be Islamics, are not doing what they're doing because of the Qu'ran. They're doing it because they want to be involved in all the excitement, bravado, and general chaos. They want to feel important and as though they're involved. Many are young people with too much time on their hands who are looking for a "cause". Just because you bellow a pertinent slogan doesn't mean that slogan really means something to you ... other than a means to an end, which is getting yourself into the middle of things. Oh really?? Would you also say the same excuse applies to the unemployed in our inner cities?? BTW nice spin but doesn't apply to this thread at all....this Islamic Terrorist confessed to the killing and is being investigated for this ties to Islamic Fundamentalists who want to destroy our country and our way of life..
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Post by ed1066 on Mar 3, 2011 11:44:42 GMT -5
Then again, it might mean everything...
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 3, 2011 11:50:41 GMT -5
There are quite a few nationalist terrorists and attacks that have happened over the past 4 years, they are easy to find (not listed previously). I will concede that there are a lot of terrorists that claim to be Muslim and claim to be acting on behalf of the the Muslim religion. There are also a lot of non Muslim related attacks. A majority of the Muslim attacks that are happening are happening in the Middle East countries that are predominately Muslim. You forgot to list the 07 December 1941 attack by the Japanese on Pearl Harbor, or the Germans U-Boats sinking our ships before we entered WWII....but we are discussing Islam Terrorists in case you missed that little factoid...but nice try again to divert the subject of the threat to our country from Islam Fundamentalist who would like your defense of them again...You made their day, I guess..
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Post by reasonfreedom on Mar 3, 2011 11:56:55 GMT -5
Actually the Crusades by the Catholic church killed more people than these muslim terrorist and that was done by religious zealousy. Really the Catholics were more hypocritical about thier religion
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 3, 2011 12:03:15 GMT -5
Actually the Crusades by the Catholic church killed more people than these muslim terrorist and that was done by religious zealousy. Really the Catholics were more hypocritical about thier religion What does that have to do with this topic "Muslim Gunman Opens Fire On US Troops"... ?? Why not discuss the killing of the Armenians by the Turks, or the Baltic Genocide? Catholics are NOT hyprocritcal about their religion and the Late Pope John Paul devoted his life to make amends for the wrongs that the Catholic Church has done since its inception...maybe if you were knowledgeabe about the Catholic Faith you would NOT demean of degrade Catholics but if that is your thing then go for it.
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Post by ChiTownVenture on Mar 3, 2011 12:07:05 GMT -5
You do know that the Chechens are Muslim, right, as are the Somalians? 2010 Abuja attacks 12 Deaths - MEND (non Muslim) 2010 Maoist attack in Dantewada 76 Deaths - Maoists Naxtel (non Muslim) 2008 Vladikaykaz - Unknown
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Post by swamp on Mar 3, 2011 12:07:16 GMT -5
"Catholics are NOT hyprocritcal about their religion"
Have you ever heard of the child sex abuse scandal the Catholic Church is currently dealing with? BTW, I'm Catholic.
Every religion has its hypocrites.
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Post by ChiTownVenture on Mar 3, 2011 12:08:40 GMT -5
There are quite a few nationalist terrorists and attacks that have happened over the past 4 years, they are easy to find (not listed previously). I will concede that there are a lot of terrorists that claim to be Muslim and claim to be acting on behalf of the the Muslim religion. There are also a lot of non Muslim related attacks. A majority of the Muslim attacks that are happening are happening in the Middle East countries that are predominately Muslim. You forgot to list the 07 December 1941 attack by the Japanese on Pearl Harbor, or the Germans U-Boats sinking our ships before we entered WWII....but we are discussing Islam Terrorists in case you missed that little factoid...but nice try again to divert the subject of the threat to our country from Islam Fundamentalist who would like your defense of them again...You made their day, I guess.. I was posting current events, in response to the discussion that was happening. No diversion. If you can't keep up maybe you should sit out
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 3, 2011 12:11:12 GMT -5
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Post by ChiTownVenture on Mar 3, 2011 12:12:31 GMT -5
Placeholder??? You made my point. If you can't keep up....
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 3, 2011 12:14:58 GMT -5
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Post by ChiTownVenture on Mar 3, 2011 12:17:01 GMT -5
Read the first series of posts, it's the progression of the discussion and questions that are being asked. Why do you feel it necessary to direct the thread, you killing the discussion.
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Post by safeharbor37 on Mar 3, 2011 12:18:22 GMT -5
It has nothing to do with it. Haven't you noticed that some posters never post anything of substance, but only nit-pick the arguments of others, insert irrelevant [but sometimes accurate] information, and attack the beliefs of others. I've been observing this since the subject first became heated shortly after 9/11. On the old MSN boards these same people [maybe different individuals, but still the "same people."] have been apologists for Muslim extremists. I suspect that some of them are "academics," but that's a different issue.
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Post by ChiTownVenture on Mar 3, 2011 12:18:32 GMT -5
Let me know when you are done modifying your post so I know when to answer.
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 3, 2011 12:20:00 GMT -5
Read the first series of posts, it's the progression of the discussion and questions that are being asked. Why do you feel it necessary to direct the thread, you killing the discussion. Wrong you hijacked with thread by posting a lot of non relevant nonsense that has NOTHING to do with this dicussion about a Muslim Terrorist who killed two of our Air Force Members in Germany and wounded two more....keep on topic or spread all your Pro Muslim stuff someplace else... We all know you love Muslims but not all of us feel the same as you
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Post by reasonfreedom on Mar 3, 2011 12:21:34 GMT -5
Actually the Crusades by the Catholic church killed more people than these muslim terrorist and that was done by religious zealousy. Really the Catholics were more hypocritical about thier religion What does that have to do with this topic "Muslim Gunman Opens Fire On US Troops"... ?? Why not discuss the killing of the Armenians by the Turks, or the Baltic Genocide? Catholics are NOT hyprocritcal about their religion and the Late Pope John Paul devoted his life to make amends for the wrongs that the Catholic Church has done since its inception...maybe if you were knowledgeabe about the Catholic Faith you would NOT demean of degrade Catholics but if that is your thing then go for it. I am catholic and yes there are fanatics and hypocrites in every denomination. In this thread they were talking about terrorist attacks by other religions. I simply just pointed out the crusades were in effect like terrorism. And yes at that time the Catholics were hypocrites. If you knew anything about our religion then you would know the 5th commandment. In the crusades they killed in the name of God. The pope doesn't mean jack to me, no person is closer to God just because of his station or name. Really do you lack this much sense or do you just have some habit of trying to be right without logic?
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 3, 2011 12:23:53 GMT -5
It has nothing to do with it. Haven't you noticed that some posters never post anything of substance, but only nit-pick the arguments of others, insert irrelevant [but sometimes accurate] information, and attack the beliefs of others. I've been observing this since the subject first became heated shortly after 9/11. On the old MSN boards these same people [maybe different individuals, but still the "same people."] have been apologists for Muslim extremists. I suspect that some of them are "academics," but that's a different issue. This one is NOT an academic Safeharbor but likes to high jack our threads to post his Pro Muslim & Anti -Military agenda which is not only irrelevant but absurd..
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Post by ChiTownVenture on Mar 3, 2011 12:24:27 GMT -5
Read the first series of posts, it's the progression of the discussion and questions that are being asked. Why do you feel it necessary to direct the thread, you killing the discussion. Wrong you hijacked with thread by posting a lot of non relevant nonsense that has NOTHING to do with this dicussion about a Muslim Terrorist who killed two of our Air Force Members in Germany and wounded two more....keep on topic or spread all your Pro Muslim stuff someplace else... The poster who started the thread asked for information to be posted. Go back and read the discussion. If you don't like where the thread is going talk to the Original Poster and ask them what is has to do with the original post. Am I a Muslim Apologist??? No, I admitted that there are quite a few attacks perpetrated by Muslim extremists. But again in response to the question asked by the original poster, Muslims are not the only group that has terrorist.
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Post by ChiTownVenture on Mar 3, 2011 12:25:58 GMT -5
Would you please post some evidence of statistically significant terrorists of these "other stripes"? Because the very vast majority of them seem to have several specific things in common, which makes them of one "stripe"... HERE IS THE POST REQUESTING INFO FROM THE ORIGINAL POSTER
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 3, 2011 12:26:20 GMT -5
Am I a Muslim Apologist??? No, I admitted that there are quite a few attacks perpetrated by Muslim extremists. But again in response to the question asked by the original poster, Muslims are not the only group that has terrorist. Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=politics&thread=4213&page=2#ixzz1FYgFUQ4xSo What That is lame and pathetic.. You are just playing games again on another thread about Muslim Terrorists..as I and Safehabor have both pointed out to you ad nauseum ...deal with it Start another Thread that glorifies Muslims and guit highjacking those who point out we have another attack on our country by Muslim terrorist but his time it was in Germany and not here
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Post by ChiTownVenture on Mar 3, 2011 12:28:09 GMT -5
Am I a Muslim Apologist??? No, I admitted that there are quite a few attacks perpetrated by Muslim extremists. But again in response to the question asked by the original poster, Muslims are not the only group that has terrorist. Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=politics&thread=4213&page=2#ixzz1FYgFUQ4xSo What You are just playing games again on another thread about Muslim Terrorists..as I and Safehabor have both pointed out to you ad nauseum ...deal with it I have no issue, you have the problem. I am posting information don't read it if you don't like it.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 3, 2011 12:29:01 GMT -5
Actually the Crusades by the Catholic church killed more people than these muslim terrorist and that was done by religious zealousy. Really the Catholics were more hypocritical about thier religion What does that have to do with this topic "Muslim Gunman Opens Fire On US Troops"... ?? Why not discuss the killing of the Armenians by the Turks, or the Baltic Genocide? Catholics are NOT hyprocritcal about their religion and the Late Pope John Paul devoted his life to make amends for the wrongs that the Catholic Church has done since its inception...maybe if you were knowledgeabe about the Catholic Faith you would NOT demean of degrade Catholics but if that is your thing then go for it. An apology by the pope or any other religious or political leaders does not and can not erase recorded history. One can forgive but still never forget.
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Post by ed1066 on Mar 3, 2011 12:30:34 GMT -5
I never said the only terrorists were muslim. I said the vast majority of modern terrorist attacks were perpetrated by muslims, and that is still true, whether you like it or not. In fact, many of the examples you posted while trying to refute my point were actually examples of muslim terror attacks...
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Post by privateinvestor on Mar 3, 2011 12:30:35 GMT -5
Am I a Muslim Apologist??? No, I admitted that there are quite a few attacks perpetrated by Muslim extremists. But again in response to the question asked by the original poster, Muslims are not the only group that has terrorist. Read more: notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=politics&thread=4213&page=2#ixzz1FYgFUQ4xSo What You are just playing games again on another thread about Muslim Terrorists..as I and Safehabor have both pointed out to you ad nauseum ...deal with it I have no issue, you have the problem. I am posting information don't read it if you don't like it. I don't like to see discussions diverted by you and your ilk continuosly if you cannot join in a dicusssion then spread your Pro Muslim Propaganda someplace else.. we have been down this road before and who wants to have you shove all your Pro Muslim stuff on us here?? I don't and deal with it
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