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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 19:40:54 GMT -5
No it is a over reaction to demand you to not fly. Americans are crazy because 3 cases totally but nobody is worried maybe they will die from a heart attack this week because they are obese and still eating bad foods. If people are afraid to die maybe they better worry more about what will probably kill them than about what will probably not kill them. ((Puts down Doritos and Pepsi))
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Post by Miss Tequila on Oct 17, 2014 19:43:18 GMT -5
seriously. i know it is "ban". i can read this computer here at work. oh well. i was never that great at spelling, but i am not a complete moron. So many things we type we type almost by rote. We don't stop and think about it. Band may well be a word you type more than you type ban, so that's what you typed. I know I tend to do that. And it doesn't help that my phone autocorrects on me. Even if I type a valid word it will replace it with a similar word that I use more often.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 19:46:41 GMT -5
So many things we type we type almost by rote. We don't stop and think about it. Band may well be a word you type more than you type ban, so that's what you typed. I know I tend to do that. And it doesn't help that my phone autocorrects on me. Even if I type a valid word it will replace it with a similar word that I use more often. Ya its a pain in the neck sometimes but mostly it helps me a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 19:48:07 GMT -5
So many things we type we type almost by rote. We don't stop and think about it. Band may well be a word you type more than you type ban, so that's what you typed. I know I tend to do that. And it doesn't help that my phone autocorrects on me. Even if I type a valid word it will replace it with a similar word that I use more often. It makes some amusing posts sometimes. Now when I see a regular poster suddenly have a lot of wonky words in their posts, I assume they're posting from an ipad or iphone.
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Post by mmhmm on Oct 17, 2014 20:23:49 GMT -5
So many things we type we type almost by rote. We don't stop and think about it. Band may well be a word you type more than you type ban, so that's what you typed. I know I tend to do that. And it doesn't help that my phone autocorrects on me. Even if I type a valid word it will replace it with a similar word that I use more often. I've seen that from other posters posting from phones! Some of the corrections crack me up!
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Post by mmhmm on Oct 17, 2014 20:24:58 GMT -5
We all do it, dj. I know I've caught myself doing the same thing more than a few times. Sometimes, I don't notice it until after I post it. Other times, I don't notice it, at all. Stuff happens to all of us. No big deal. Honestly, when I make a funny typo and someone else points it out to me in a humorous fashion, I usually laugh my arse off right along with them. So do I. Half the time, though, I'll catch them just after I post and correct them. It's habit to re-read.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 20:29:15 GMT -5
We all do it, dj. I know I've caught myself doing the same thing more than a few times. Sometimes, I don't notice it until after I post it. Other times, I don't notice it, at all. Stuff happens to all of us. No big deal. Honestly, when I make a funny typo and someone else points it out to me in a humorous fashion, I usually laugh my arse off right along with them. First time I swyped I wrote sexy duck accidentally.
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Oct 17, 2014 20:33:58 GMT -5
And I might assume they'd taken a few heavy nips from the bottle.
It usually says "posting via mobile" at the top of their post if they're on an IPhone or IPad, etc.
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Post by lynnerself on Oct 18, 2014 0:15:46 GMT -5
More is not necessarily better: "Suiting Up for Ebola: CDC Will Issue New Protective Gear Guidelines
Alarmed at learning that nurses in Dallas didn’t know how to protect themselves from a patient infected with Ebola virus, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention plans to issue new, clearer guidelines soon.
Anyone treating an Ebola patient should wear personal protective equipment (PPE), including gloves, eye protection, a gown and head coverings. But a review of how two nurses got infected at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas showed some donning too many pairs of gloves and taping sleeves shut, efforts that made them feel safer but that in fact made them more vulnerable.
“But in fact, by putting on more layers of gloves and other protective clothing, it becomes much harder to put them on, it becomes much harder to put them off, and the risk of contamination during the process of taking these gloves off, it gets much higher,” CDC director Dr. Tom Frieden said this week.
Original guidelines were meant to be flexible, but hospitals actually appear to need clear, consistent guidance, CDC officials say.
“We're wrapping up the final details and will be issuing the updated PPE guidance soon,” a spokeswoman said. "
www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/suiting-ebola-cdc-will-issue-new-protective-gear-guidelines-n228611
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 18, 2014 13:49:06 GMT -5
And it doesn't help that my phone autocorrects on me. Even if I type a valid word it will replace it with a similar word that I use more often. I've seen that from other posters posting from phones! Some of the corrections crack me up! You almost spanked my hand when I didn't see an auto-correction on my tablet which changed a poster's name from what it actually was to a nickname for a member of the porcine family.
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Post by NastyWoman on Oct 18, 2014 14:48:08 GMT -5
Slightly OT from the nurses, but there is something that I have been wondering about for days now. How come we have two sick nurses but the people who transported Mr. Duncan in their ambulance are not sick (from what I have read)? When Mr. Duncan was finally admitted he was definitely symptomatic. What is different between these people and the nurses? Luck? Or did they do something right that was not done right at the hospital? Wouldn't it make sense to look at why some exposed people outside the nursing staff did not get sick? If we can pin that down then we might be able to prevent further infections.
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Post by mmhmm on Oct 18, 2014 15:12:25 GMT -5
Slightly OT from the nurses, but there is something that I have been wondering about for days now. How come we have two sick nurses but the people who transported Mr. Duncan in their ambulance are not sick (from what I have read)? When Mr. Duncan was finally admitted he was definitely symptomatic. What is different between these people and the nurses? Luck? Or did they do something right that was not done right at the hospital? Wouldn't it make sense to look at why some exposed people outside the nursing staff did not get sick? If we can pin that down then we might be able to prevent further infections. As this disease progresses the virus load builds and more virus is shed in bodily fluids, joss. People dealing with the patient later in the illness are more at risk than those dealing with the patient earlier. Also, a nurse assigned to the patient is dealing with that patient up close and personal for anywhere from 8 to 12 hours at a time. The frequency of contact also increases the risk.
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Post by lynnerself on Oct 18, 2014 15:14:51 GMT -5
This is all speculation but, I would assume that the nurses actually handled contaminated fluids (blood, vomit, feces etc) and somehow slipped up in their protection protocols. The ambulance transporters probably had more limited exposure.
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Post by Tiny on Oct 18, 2014 15:23:13 GMT -5
Slightly OT from the nurses, but there is something that I have been wondering about for days now. How come we have two sick nurses but the people who transported Mr. Duncan in their ambulance are not sick (from what I have read)? When Mr. Duncan was finally admitted he was definitely symptomatic. What is different between these people and the nurses? Luck? Or did they do something right that was not done right at the hospital? Wouldn't it make sense to look at why some exposed people outside the nursing staff did not get sick? If we can pin that down then we might be able to prevent further infections. I'll take a stab at this... mostly because, well, there's a lot of bits and pieces of what may be 'clues' that the powers that be in all of this already know...
My uninformed opinion is that ebola isn't really massively contagious until the person with it - is really really sick - meaning they are near death (or they have died). I'm not saying they aren't contagious when the symptoms first start - or when they are experiencing the first "I'm gonna stay in bed I have the Flu" kinda day... I'm just suggesting that in the beginning stages it might be a bit more difficult to get ebola from them with just casual contact. After all Mr. Duncan spent several days fairly ill at home with several family members and to my knowledge none of the family members have been infected. I'm NOT saying special gear and procedures aren't to be maintained - just that maybe as the illness progresses it gets more critical that the special gear and procedures be followed to the letter.
I'm wondering at what stage of Mr. Duncan's illness the infected nurses had contact with him? If it was in the days near the end OR after he had died... then maybe there odds were just much higher that a slip up with result in infection. But then there's the Guy who took ebola to Nigeria - he managed to infect 8? other people... I think all of them had contact with him when he was very ill... and before they knew he had ebola.
I'm also wondering if there is some segment of the population that gets exposed to ebola and throws it off quickly or if they get exposed, get mildly ill (maybe just feel lousy for a couple days) and their immune system fights it off without them becoming dangerously contagious.
Some of the stories I'm reading about survivors (and their families) in Africa - is that sometimes someone in the household manages to NOT come down with ebola - despite having cared for someone who was sick (and before the sick person made it to a quarantine center).
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Post by Value Buy on Oct 18, 2014 15:34:42 GMT -5
Slightly OT from the nurses, but there is something that I have been wondering about for days now. How come we have two sick nurses but the people who transported Mr. Duncan in their ambulance are not sick (from what I have read)? When Mr. Duncan was finally admitted he was definitely symptomatic. What is different between these people and the nurses? Luck? Or did they do something right that was not done right at the hospital? Wouldn't it make sense to look at why some exposed people outside the nursing staff did not get sick? If we can pin that down then we might be able to prevent further infections. I thought he drove or was driven in a car to the ER. didn't they wrap the car in plastic in the hospital parking lot, after being diagnosed with Ebola? I could swear they showed it on the news.
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Post by Value Buy on Oct 18, 2014 15:35:20 GMT -5
Any word on the cruise ship yet? Is it back?
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Aid group leader: Africa's Ebola standards higher than CDC's We’re not comfortable with [Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)] procedures,” Ken Isaacs, the vice president of Samaritan's Purse, told The Hill. When Samaritan's Purse health workers treat patients in Liberia, they wear two pairs of gloves and spray themselves with disinfectant twice before leaving the isolation ward. They have a three-foot “no touch” policy and hold safety meetings every dayhttp thehill.com/policy/healthcare/220955-aid-group-leader-africas-ebola-standards-higher-than-cdcs
I think our arrogance about how great our healthcare system is compared to Africa's is what can get us in trouble here. That along with underestimating this virus which is how it got so out of control in Africa so quickly.
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Post by billisonboard on Oct 18, 2014 16:31:49 GMT -5
... I think our arrogance about how great our ... system is compared to ... is what can get us in trouble here. ... I think that this would be true with quite a few things one might put in those blanks.
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... I think our arrogance about how great our ... system is compared to ... is what can get us in trouble here. ... I think that this would be true with quite a few things one might put in those blanks. Maybe, but I didn't leave any blanks.
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Post by billisonboard on Oct 18, 2014 16:59:04 GMT -5
I think that this would be true with quite a few things one might put in those blanks. Maybe, but I didn't leave any blanks. Just to make sure, I hope you weren't seeing this as disagreeing with your statement which I do agree with. I meant to be expanding it other areas as well.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 18, 2014 21:49:06 GMT -5
oh god, not you too. i thought you were one of the good guys. Richard- i just got new glasses, and i OFTEN can't see what i am typing now (they are not bifocals). I AM one of the good guys... I just couldn't resist! dude, i was mostly teasing you (and myself, although you probably couldn't tell)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 23:21:54 GMT -5
Maybe, but I didn't leave any blanks. Just to make sure, I hope you weren't seeing this as disagreeing with your statement which I do agree with. I meant to be expanding it other areas as well. Ok, thanks for clarification. I'm pretty sure it could be expanded.
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Post by mmhmm on Oct 19, 2014 10:41:28 GMT -5
Any word on the cruise ship yet? Is it back? The ship is back and the woman about whom there was concerned has remained asymptomatic and has been cleared by health officials.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 19, 2014 11:35:23 GMT -5
Any word on the cruise ship yet? Is it back? The ship is back and the woman about whom there was concerned has remained asymptomatic and has been cleared by health officials. aka "ridiculous overreaction and paranoia".
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Post by mmhmm on Oct 19, 2014 12:52:00 GMT -5
The ship is back and the woman about whom there was concerned has remained asymptomatic and has been cleared by health officials. aka "ridiculous overreaction and paranoia". Yep. I believe today is the day Mr. Duncan's girlfriend (and, I guess, others in that household) comes out of quarantine. No word of any of them contracting the disease.
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Post by lynnerself on Oct 19, 2014 13:16:57 GMT -5
I think whether she should have gone on the cruise is debatable. I think whether she should have been quarantined is debatable. I think Mexico refusing to let the ship stop in Cozumel is "ridiculous overreaction and paranoia"
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Post by Value Buy on Oct 19, 2014 13:40:54 GMT -5
I believe his last name was Duncan, or are you referring to someone else?
Myself, if I was a neighbor of the girlfriend and family, I would not be knocking on their door and give them a welcome back cake for maybe another week. CDC says 21 days incubation, Value Buy says 28 days, just in case.
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Post by Value Buy on Oct 19, 2014 13:44:27 GMT -5
I think whether she should have gone on the cruise is debatable. I think whether she should have been quarantined is debatable. I think Mexico refusing to let the ship stop in Cozumel is "ridiculous overreaction and paranoia" Number 2 on your list..... Once the CDC contacted Carnival, I imagine there was not a lot of choice, but then they say the quarantine was voluntary, so the point is moot. Nice to see second world countries have a higher health protection standard for their citizens than America does.
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Post by NastyWoman on Oct 19, 2014 13:47:21 GMT -5
I hope that everyone who lobbies for travel bans from Ebola stricken countries realizes that this means no person out of the US, for whatever reason, until at least 21 days after the last resident in this country who might have been exposed, however indirectly, is cleared? That'll go over great I'm sure...
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Post by mmhmm on Oct 19, 2014 14:43:46 GMT -5
I believe his last name was Duncan, or are you referring to someone else?
Myself, if I was a neighbor of the girlfriend and family, I would not be knocking on their door and give them a welcome back cake for maybe another week. CDC says 21 days incubation, Value Buy says 28 days, just in case. No, I meant Mr. Duncan. Brain fart.
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