Drug Testing for a job

[msventoux]

I had to take a drug test once for a part-time job at a large retailer.  If you passed it, you were hired.  After speaking with personnel there's always a large number of people who don't pass it.  Which wasn't that surprising when I looked around the interview room...I felt completely out of place in my business casual attire amid the sea of tube tops, torn and stained jeans and profanity-laced t-shirts.

I've never been fingerprinted, had to take a polygraph, etc. 

[Nazgul Girl]

   I've been drug-tested for jobs at several medical facilities.   I got a job at all four of them.    I've been drug tested for life insurance policies, for that matter.    A few years ago, they gave us a big song-and-dance about how they were going to start doing random drug-testing amongst the employees, but I never knew of anyone actually having to test.   I was safe as long as caffeine remained legal . 

[andi9899]

Sept 29, 2014 17:53:58 GMT -5 @singlemominmd said:

so a spin-off of the other thread.  How many jobs have you been drug tested for?

I've never been drug tested for any job I've held.

I've been fingerprinted for my NASA badge

Surprisingly only 2, my current job and the one before that. One would think that in my inustry (insurance) it would be more. Standard checks are credit, background and MVR. But never drug tests until the past few years.

[suesinfl]

Drug tested, fingered printed, physical and hearing tests for a job that I have now and have had for 18 years...it's a desk job with the local government. We are also subjected to drug testing and credit checks, even if we never have access to money. Since we have volunteers that work with the public, they are required to have a drug test and a level II background check.

Before that, when I worked retail, I was drug tested, fingerprinted and had a background/credit check. Volunteering, I've been drug tested, fingerprinted and had a background check.

[Opti]

Sept 29, 2014 17:53:58 GMT -5 @singlemominmd said:

so a spin-off of the other thread.  How many jobs have you been drug tested for?

I've never been drug tested for any job I've held.

I've been fingerprinted for my NASA badge

Several. Probably two of my systems administrator jobs

and at least one other one.

[Phoenix84]

Sept 29, 2014 22:17:50 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

I was tested when I started at my current employer (14yrs ago).  They stopped testing for new hires just a few years later but they have reserved the right to do random testing.  Never had to pee in a cup or anything else since I joined though, which makes me think that the random testing isn't quite so random.

That's kind of how I see it too.

I've never been randomly drug tested or ever heard of anyone being tested. I think it's something they do if they suspect you're on something.

[wvugurl26]

I was drug tested when I worked for the hospital lab. Pee in a cup and blood draw.

I was fingerprinted to get my work badge. I think I ended up being fingerprinted two or three times before I got it because they screwed it up so much and finger prints are only good for six months.

They reserve the right to drug test. I'd have to ask one of my friends but I think that's mainly so they can drug test our investigators who carry guns and arrest people.

[Miss Tequila]

I have only had two professional jobs. The first one I was hired in late 1994, way before drug testing was common. I was hire at my current job three years ago and all employees must pass a drug test. If an employee is injured at work it this mandatory that they go for an immediate drug/alcohol test. We are also subject to random drug testing.

I'm ok with drug testing.

[resolution]

I have been finger printed and bonded but never drug tested. My employer only drug tests if someone acts erratically at work.

[nutty]

All of them, wouldn't pass one at the moment though.

[zibazinski]

I've never done a polygraph but I've heard some strange stories enough so that I'd be freaking out if I took one.

[The Captain]

Several jobs and volunteer work required drug testing.  The past two jobs ran a full background check.

Fingerprinted once.

[Phoenix84]

Sept 30, 2014 6:27:20 GMT -5 wvugurl26 said:

I was drug tested when I worked for the hospital lab. Pee in a cup and blood draw.

I was fingerprinted to get my work badge. I think I ended up being fingerprinted two or three times before I got it because they screwed it up so much and finger prints are only good for six months.

They reserve the right to drug test. I'd have to ask one of my friends but I think that's mainly so they can drug test our investigators who carry guns and arrest people.

Why don't you have THAT job?

Kicking in doors and arresting perps sounds like it'd be right up your ally.

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Sept 29, 2014 17:53:58 GMT -5 @singlemominmd said:

so a spin-off of the other thread.  How many jobs have you been drug tested for?

I've never been drug tested for any job I've held.

I've been fingerprinted for my NASA badge

NASA doesn't drug test?  Figures. 

[Deleted]

Sept 30, 2014 9:52:33 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

Sept 29, 2014 17:53:58 GMT -5 @singlemominmd said:

so a spin-off of the other thread.  How many jobs have you been drug tested for?

I've never been drug tested for any job I've held.

I've been fingerprinted for my NASA badge

NASA doesn't drug test?  Figures. 

not any of the contractors I've worked for and not to get my NASA badge and CAC card

[chiver78]

was about to say one, but then someone posted about a full physical workup for a job, and I remembered another. one was a movie theater job in college, the other was for a co-op job in college.

I've been at the same company 13 years now, and I didn't have to pass a drug test when I was hired. no idea what they do now for new hires. for this job, I've been fingerprinted and hold TSA clearance credentials for various areas of our workspace that require additional security. still no drug tests. I'd pass, but it is interesting that we don't test.

for my volunteer work with Make-a-Wish, I have to clear an annual CORI check. no drug testing there either.

[Deleted]

It looks like it depends on the position.

A TDP is a position that has been identified as such based on the duties of the position.
This determination is made by the supervisor and the Center Human Resources Office using
specific criteria described in the appendices of NPR 3792.1B, Plan for a Drug-Free
Workplace. NASA’s TDP criteria are consistent with Federal guidance. This guidance
established a core group of TDP positions to be included in all Federal agency plans, such
as those which require the carrying of (or access to) firearms or those which allow access to
sensitive information requiring a security clearance of secret or higher. In addition, NASA
has identified certain NASA-specific functions as TDPs such as those which require working
with explosives or those requiring hands-on maintenance of major mission-critical
equipment.

Approximately 6,000 positions, or one-third of NASA’s total civil service workforce, have
been identified as TDPs and are subject to random drug testing. Approximately 1,500
employees, or 25% of the total TDP population, will be randomly tested for illegal drug use
annually. Random testing of a percentage of each Center’s TDP population will be
conducted at least four times per year.

searchpub.nssc.nasa.gov/servlet/sm.web.Fetch/NASA_Drug_Testing_Brochure_Poster_5.pdf?rhid=1000&did=850493&type=released

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Sept 30, 2014 10:01:37 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

It looks like it depends on the position.

A TDP is a position that has been identified as such based on the duties of the position.
This determination is made by the supervisor and the Center Human Resources Office using
specific criteria described in the appendices of NPR 3792.1B, Plan for a Drug-Free
Workplace. NASA’s TDP criteria are consistent with Federal guidance. This guidance
established a core group of TDP positions to be included in all Federal agency plans, such
as those which require the carrying of (or access to) firearms or those which allow access to
sensitive information requiring a security clearance of secret or higher. In addition, NASA
has identified certain NASA-specific functions as TDPs such as those which require working
with explosives or those requiring hands-on maintenance of major mission-critical
equipment.

Approximately 6,000 positions, or one-third of NASA’s total civil service workforce, have
been identified as TDPs and are subject to random drug testing. Approximately 1,500
employees, or 25% of the total TDP population, will be randomly tested for illegal drug use
annually. Random testing of a percentage of each Center’s TDP population will be
conducted at least four times per year.

searchpub.nssc.nasa.gov/servlet/sm.web.Fetch/NASA_Drug_Testing_Brochure_Poster_5.pdf?rhid=1000&did=850493&type=released

that applies to civil servants not contrators

[bean29]

I don't remember ever being drug tested for a job. 

I did a 10 finger fingerprint/background test to get govenrment security clearance at one job.  I also had a large fortune 500 company do a background test after I worked there nearly 10 years (I think it was to make sure they were in compliance with Sarbanes Oxley sp?). 

I had to be fingerprinted and background checked to get my state insurance licenses.  I also had a background check done by DH's company so I could be an agent with binding authority in DH's office. 

I know my current company called my refrences, but they did not do any other background check. 

DH did some kind of a psych test for a job once, he says  he failed.  If he didn't always try to "Beat" the test, it probably wouldn't be aproblem.

[swasat]

Drug tested for all the jobs I have ever held. Background checked for all of them but one. Fingerprinted only for the current one (in financial industry).

I have held 5 jobs since late 90s.

[Deleted]

Sept 30, 2014 10:06:46 GMT -5 @singlemominmd said:

Sept 30, 2014 10:01:37 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

It looks like it depends on the position.




searchpub.nssc.nasa.gov/servlet/sm.web.Fetch/NASA_Drug_Testing_Brochure_Poster_5.pdf?rhid=1000&did=850493&type=released

that applies to civil servants not contrators

It says the rules are the same for contractors.  You must not carry a gun. 

1823.570 Drug-and alcohol-free workforce.

This section sets forth NASA requirements for mandatory drug and alcohol testing of certain contractor personnel under section 203, National Aeronautics and Space Act of 1958, as amended, 42 U.S.C. 2473, 72 Stat. 429; and Civil Space Employee Testing Act of 1991, Public Law 102-195, sec. 21, 105 Stat. 1616 to 1619.

1823.570-1 Definitions.
As used in this subpart employee and controlled substance are as defined in FAR 23.503. The use of a controlled substance in accordance with the terms of a valid prescription, or other uses authorized by law shall not be subject to the requirements of 1823.570 to 1823.570-3 and the clause at 1852.223-74.
"Employee in a sensitive position" means a contractor or subcontractor employee who has been granted access to classified information; a contractor or subcontractor employee in other positions that the contractor or subcontractor determines could reasonably be expected to affect safety, security, National security, or functions other than the foregoing requiring a high degree of trust and confidence; and includes any employee performing in a position designated "mission critical" pursuant to the clause at 1852.246-70. The term also includes any applicant who is interviewed for a position described in this paragraph.
"Use, in violation of applicable law or Federal regulation, of alcohol" includes having, while on duty or during a preemployment interview, an alcohol concentration of 0.04 percent by weight or more in the blood, as measured by chemical test of the individual's breath or blood. An individual's refusal to submit to such test is presumptive evidence of use, in violation of applicable law or Federal regulation, of alcohol.

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Sept 30, 2014 10:14:48 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

Sept 30, 2014 10:06:46 GMT -5 @singlemominmd said:

that applies to civil servants not contrators

It says the rules are the same for contractors.  You must not carry a gun. 

1823.570 Drug-and alcohol-free workforce.

This section sets forth NASA requirements for mandatory drug and alcohol testing of certain contractor personnel under section 203, National Aeronautics and Space Act of 1958, as amended, 42 U.S.C. 2473, 72 Stat. 429; and Civil Space Employee Testing Act of 1991, Public Law 102-195, sec. 21, 105 Stat. 1616 to 1619.

1823.570-1 Definitions.
As used in this subpart employee and controlled substance are as defined in FAR 23.503. The use of a controlled substance in accordance with the terms of a valid prescription, or other uses authorized by law shall not be subject to the requirements of 1823.570 to 1823.570-3 and the clause at 1852.223-74.
"Employee in a sensitive position" means a contractor or subcontractor employee who has been granted access to classified information; a contractor or subcontractor employee in other positions that the contractor or subcontractor determines could reasonably be expected to affect safety, security, National security, or functions other than the foregoing requiring a high degree of trust and confidence; and includes any employee performing in a position designated "mission critical" pursuant to the clause at 1852.246-70. The term also includes any applicant who is interviewed for a position described in this paragraph.
"Use, in violation of applicable law or Federal regulation, of alcohol" includes having, while on duty or during a preemployment interview, an alcohol concentration of 0.04 percent by weight or more in the blood, as measured by chemical test of the individual's breath or blood. An individual's refusal to submit to such test is presumptive evidence of use, in violation of applicable law or Federal regulation, of alcohol.

nope....and on some days it's probably a good thing....if I did though I would probably get things a lot faster when asked for them. 

[Deleted]

Sept 30, 2014 10:16:48 GMT -5 @singlemominmd said:

Sept 30, 2014 10:14:48 GMT -5 minnesotapaintlady said:

It says the rules are the same for contractors.  You must not carry a gun. 

1823.570 Drug-and alcohol-free workforce.

This section sets forth NASA requirements for mandatory drug and alcohol testing of certain contractor personnel under section 203, National Aeronautics and Space Act of 1958, as amended, 42 U.S.C. 2473, 72 Stat. 429; and Civil Space Employee Testing Act of 1991, Public Law 102-195, sec. 21, 105 Stat. 1616 to 1619.

1823.570-1 Definitions.
As used in this subpart employee and controlled substance are as defined in FAR 23.503. The use of a controlled substance in accordance with the terms of a valid prescription, or other uses authorized by law shall not be subject to the requirements of 1823.570 to 1823.570-3 and the clause at 1852.223-74.
"Employee in a sensitive position" means a contractor or subcontractor employee who has been granted access to classified information; a contractor or subcontractor employee in other positions that the contractor or subcontractor determines could reasonably be expected to affect safety, security, National security, or functions other than the foregoing requiring a high degree of trust and confidence; and includes any employee performing in a position designated "mission critical" pursuant to the clause at 1852.246-70. The term also includes any applicant who is interviewed for a position described in this paragraph.
"Use, in violation of applicable law or Federal regulation, of alcohol" includes having, while on duty or during a preemployment interview, an alcohol concentration of 0.04 percent by weight or more in the blood, as measured by chemical test of the individual's breath or blood. An individual's refusal to submit to such test is presumptive evidence of use, in violation of applicable law or Federal regulation, of alcohol.

nope....and on some days it's probably a good thing....if I did though I would probably get things a lot faster when asked for them. 

[Abby Normal]

We work with hazardous equipment. So employees are drug tested pre employment.  Plus we do a lot of  randoms, both pool and the entire crew. We test for suspicion or cause (accident).

We have a facility in washington.  As Honey mentioned, it gets interesting.  Only because the employees think that because marijuana is legal, they get a free pass.  But they fail to realize that employers can still set their own policy.  Ours is no illegal drugs, as well as no marijuana, certain prescription drugs, or alcohol. Period.   We've let several people go in Washington for marijuana since the law passed.  Though we did change testing procedures.

[Opti]

Sept 30, 2014 10:11:12 GMT -5 swasat said:

Drug tested for all the jobs I have ever held. Background checked for all of them but one. Fingerprinted only for the current one (in financial industry).

I have held 5 jobs since late 90s.

, I'm jealous. I've had at least 7 from year 2000 on not

counting a couple one or two day jobs, at a local consumer testing

center.

[Deleted]

DH works in security, so he's regularly drug tested before a new office job.  He's given his fingerprints several times and had his retinal scans taken and signed an affidavit that they could get a DNA sample later if they want too.  The retinal scans and DNA thing was for USA/Saudi project clearance. 

He wasn't drug tested at the sandwich shop or the entry level installation job with itty bitty companies though.  

I haven't been drug tested for working in camp kitchens, high ropes course belaying and carrying rocks and the like, but I did get drug tested when I first hired on as a file clerk at a materials testing company.  The company booklet said that all field guys get random testing and all employees with company vehicles need to be tested ASAP for alcohol and drugs if they get in an accident with a company vehicle or on the clock.  I know they stuck with it, because while CMT was pretty big, we only had a couple drillers and they'd roll their eyes when one of them had to go get tested again.  There was a certain number of tests done per field department, despite huge differences in size from branch to branch and within departments.

[Deleted]

I worked for a sub of Prudential till 1995 and they drug-tested applicants for probably the last 3 years I was there. It was very awkward- part of the interview was "medical" and you brought them down to the Fitness Center, where we had a nurse on duty. She handed them a cup. It's all done differently now; for one thing they typically make the offer, then schedule the test, with the offer contingent on passing it. I wonder how the results could ever be confidential; if HR says you can 't hire them, what are you going to conclude?

They told me a lot of applicants for IT positions disappeared after the drug test.

[DagnyT]

My husband and I both were drug tested for our jobs, and we can both be randomly tested (but have not been). My daughter had to be drug tested by the local YMCA before being hired for a lifeguard job when she was 17. Once hired, their computers randomly pick one person each month for drug testing. She was picked after working there just over a year. They called her and told her she had to go that day, no exceptions. Luckily, she was homeschooled and could arrange to go. If she had been in public or private school, that might have been a problem.

[ohmomto2boys]

I was drug tested for a part-time job at BJ's (like Sams Club) - 20 yrs ago. I also had to do a background check to volunteer at my kids school in the last couple years.

[muttleynfelix]

I was drug tested for an internship with the county back in college.  

I also think I was drug tested as part of our physical for being on the track team in college.