Fired.... LOL

[tallguy]

And I was a waitress in a strip bar for 5 years. (fully clothed from the neck to the knees people)

You didn't really have to add that last part for us, or at least me..... My imagination is now officially disappointed...  

[Deleted]

Ahhh I'm sorry stretch.

[raeoflyte]

I definitely agree, don't quit unless you have to, but Debt summed up my concerns quite well.  The sign waving I could shrug off, but not running around to get large amounts of cash in the middle of the day.  The check cashing place by my last house had the employees behind bullet proof glass.  

She just has to get another job though which I think some of you might be exaggerating the difficulties.  It might not pay as much, but just another job to stick it out for 6-12 months and then keep looking for  something better.  Once she has that other job, she doesn't list this one on her resume.  

[swamp]

Sept 28, 2014 20:19:12 GMT -5 Phoenix84 said:

Standing on the street and holding a sign wouldn't be that bad. What makes you so uneasy about it?

Because you look like an asshole doing something like that. She was hired to manage a store. So they want her to leave the place unattended while she wanders around the street looking like an idiot?  

Its a a small town, everyone knows her. 

[Phoenix84]

Sept 28, 2014 20:42:08 GMT -5 Sum Dum Gai said:

I'm still trying to imagine how a payday lender/check cashing place operates with no money. Makes no sense. I usually have over $300 in the toy store, and I don't make a living selling people cash.

I might start though. One of my regulars gets his checks cashed at the payday place in the same shopping center. They charge 8% for check cashing. Seems pretty high to float money for a single day.

My guess is they're worried about someone holding the place up. But yeah, even so, only have $300 on hand when cash is your business seems weird.

[Angel!]

Sept 28, 2014 20:54:42 GMT -5 Phoenix84 said:

Sept 28, 2014 20:42:08 GMT -5 Sum Dum Gai said:

I'm still trying to imagine how a payday lender/check cashing place operates with no money. Makes no sense. I usually have over $300 in the toy store, and I don't make a living selling people cash.

I might start though. One of my regulars gets his checks cashed at the payday place in the same shopping center. They charge 8% for check cashing. Seems pretty high to float money for a single day.

My guess is they're worried about someone holding the place up. But yeah, even so, only have $300 on hand when cash is your business seems weird.

I'm actually guessing they are either almost broke or have had problems with internal theft. The needing to check with corporate everytime she makes a large withdrawal wouldn't be because they are afraid of being robbed. They either don't trust their managers or need to verify they have the funds available for withdrawal.

The level of marketing expected and pushing these new loans also makes me think they may be having cash flow problems.

[swamp]

I think she has CSR underlings. 

Amd I am Supreme Ruler of the Universe That is My Office. 

[Deleted]

I was hired as the store manager, but not told until the day I started that my CSR had given notice... They have not been able to hire anyone in the last 6 weeks I have worked there to replace her. No one wants to work there, and no one has been able to pass the math test they give...

The person I replaced is in jail for 8 felony counts of child rape.  It's nice. I get to hear about it ALL day long, since it is very publicized...

I find the idea of waiving a sign to be completely humiliating. I have a college degree and am supposed to be a manager of a store, not a flyer distributor or sign waiver. And, I was lied to about this by my fired boss. If he told me this was part of the job, I would not have accepted it.

The area I am working in is having a large heroin and meth problem. A tweaker showed up one day thinking I could tell him where to buy a used radiator and got into my car "because he liked it." Thankfully, my prison inmate customer told him to get the f out of my store and he left me alone...

I do not feel safe. That is the bottom line. People don't cash $100 checks, they cash $4000 ones.  I have to ask them to stand outside while I go fetch their $4K from the bank. I don't think that is a safe thing to do. Anywhere else, there are 2 people that go together as a requirement. Since I am working alone for the foreseeable future, I have to close the store and do all of the bank running myself.

My parking lot has no lights because all the other businesses close early. I asked for a security light because I can't see to unlock my car and don't think that is too safe either.

I will go back to freelancing if I have to, but I am trying to stick it out and see how it goes. If I am physically threatened again, or if I have to walk around with tons of cash or a giant sign, then I am going to leave. I can go work for $10 an hour right now, as in tomorrow, working on the fire clean-up effort. And, it would probably be a better job...

[Angel!]

I just got to point out the unlikelihood that most of your customers just got out of prison and most of you customers are cashing $4k checks.

Do whatever you feel is best. It just kind of reads like a string of excuses to me. If safety is an issue, that could be legit. But you are also complaining about having your hours shifted, working 6 days per week, having to spend 50 hours working in a week. You know what...that is what happens when you are a manager in a retail environment. It sucks, but that is the job. You are lucky you are even getting OT. When I was a manager I was putting in 60 hours, working 6 days a week, and I was salary making only 30k per year. It was horrible, but I sucked and up and did it until I found a better plan.

Or go do the fire cleanup crew, although that sounds like a much more physically demanding job than standing on your feet.

Either way, I would advise you to think about how financially tight things were before. To remember how you couldn't even afford the wardrobe needed for training before you just up and quit because you have to wave a sign. Maybe I have no pride, but I would wave a sign to get into a better financial position.

There is another thread talking about people stay in poverty because they make poor decisions over and over. Just walking away with no back up plan in place would be one of those poor decisions, IMO.

Sorry if I am coming off mean. I just can't believe you are contemplating quitting when you have been broke for so many years. This is your way out...your opportunity. Don't freaking give up because it is hard. It is hard to move up the ladder, that is life.

[whoami]

Im not sure that she is going to be able to get another job so easily, college degree or not.

This place she is at sounds pretty ghetto, and doesn't strike me as the kind of place that has particularly high or stringent hiring standards. With her work history (or lack thereof) a legit business may not be as willing to consider her application.

[Ombud]

If there are so many opportunities, think back to why you chose this one.
♢ money running out?
♢ no other offers?
♢ used up unemployment?
♢ chance to save up to fix roof?
I honestly do not believe that the conditions are a complete surprise..... just sayin

[Ombud]

Sept 28, 2014 21:27:04 GMT -5 @workingshasta said:

I was hired as the store manager, .... I find the idea of waiving a sign to be completely humiliating. I have a college degree

that & $1.80 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks

swamp, maybe she'll 'look like an asshole' but it's work in a depressed area

my prison inmate customer told him to get the f out of my store and he left me alone...

inmate or parolee??

I do not feel safe. That is the bottom line. ... I can go work for $10 an hour right now, as in tomorrow, working on the fire clean-up effort.

So do it. That'll keep you employed for 2-3 months until calfire has its annual layoffs.

[Phoenix84]

Sept 28, 2014 21:04:47 GMT -5 Angel! said:

Sept 28, 2014 20:54:42 GMT -5 Phoenix84 said:

My guess is they're worried about someone holding the place up. But yeah, even so, only have $300 on hand when cash is your business seems weird.

I'm actually guessing they are either almost broke or have had problems with internal theft. The needing to check with corporate everytime she makes a large withdrawal wouldn't be because they are afraid of being robbed. They either don't trust their managers or need to verify they have the funds available for withdrawal.

The level of marketing expected and pushing these new loans also makes me think they may be having cash flow problems.

Yes, that would make sense.  When I worked retail, theft from employees was a greater concern than outside theft.

[giramomma]

Sept 28, 2014 21:27:04 GMT -5 @workingshasta said:

I find the idea of waiving a sign to be completely humiliating. I have a college degree and am supposed to be a manager of a store, not a flyer distributor or sign waiver. And, I was lied to about this by my fired boss. If he told me this was part of the job, I would not have accepted it.

I have two degrees, over 10 years experience, and I spent 1/4 of my work time last two years deleting extra spaces after a hard return in word document.

Know what I used to do? I used to do things like help design courses, manage software upgrades, and give suggestions on new technology.
When I was hired 10+ years ago, "deleting the extra spaces at the end of every hard return in a 5 page document. (Oh, by the way you are going to do 200-300 of those year) wasn't in the job description.

Plus, again, I got to watch coworkers that were hired this June be handed more responsibility. They are getting to design courses, explore new technology, etc.

Actually, if I think about it, too much, I'm going to start crying, again, about how underutilized I am at work. And how much I'm getting the shaft. Though, that's changing soon.

And, I'm underpaid 5-10% to boot!

College degrees are now like HS diplomas used to be. They don't mean as much as they used to anymore. If they meant something, you wouldn't need a college degree to  get a $12/hour office job.  Things have changed. It's going to be an adjustment for you.

[Angel!]

Sept 29, 2014 7:00:31 GMT -5 giramomma said:

I have two degrees, over 10 years experience, and I spent 1/4 of my work time last two years deleting extra spaces after a hard return in word document.

For the love of god, please tell me you are using the 'find/replace' command for this.

I have to do this at times too, but doing it by just scrolling through a report would be mind-numbing.

[Deleted]

I don't really know what to do. That's just the honest truth. 

Working around other people has always been hard for me, and working directly with the public just may not be a good fit for me. At least not in an environment where I am in "control" of someone's money. People get really angry when I have to tell them that their last-chance loan is denied.

I had a customer tell me last week that he hopes they arm us and that I have a concealed carry permit for when I leave the store... That didn't instill a very nice feeling in me at all. 

I am sick as a dog. Started getting sick on Saturday and spent most of yesterday in bed asleep. I am doing an all day, alone, shift so it should be "fun" today... This is the busy week of the month, so I am hoping cold medication keeps me functional for the week. Getting sick was the LAST thing I needed right now...

My original goal was to look for a job at a local hotel. I wanted to work evenings or graveyard. I am going to contact those who contacted me about my resume/application and see if I might be able to score an interview. 

If I leave my current job, I will not list it on my resume. 

[Ombud]

That's probably incredibly wise .... quit and don't list it. That way a short term job won't hurt you. Are those temp clean up jobs still hiring? What's the plan once Calfire lays off?

[Deleted]

CALFire isn't hiring for clean-up, the local town is, via a local employment agency.

My issue with freelancing wasn't finding enough work, it was being able to be focused and get enough work done to support myself. Now that I am used to working 40+ hours again, and remember how "fun" it is dealing with other people's crap all day long, I think I can find a new dedication to sitting down and working at home again, if I need to.

I don't really know what to do. So, rather than quit this weekend, I waited and am going to keep going and seeing how I can make it work. And, I am actively looking for a better fit job at the same time.

My ex-boss was a jerk, but he also lied to me about a lot of my job because he needed to fill it. And, now that he is no longer around, it is interesting to see what is going to be expected of me and my store.

This store can't compete with the numbers coming out of places like Sacramento, but I am expected to. My ex-boss said that he refused to write me up in the future because of the sales numbers, because he has been in my area and realizes that with a population of about 7K people, I am very limited on where I can grow the business.

The "interim" boss said he will be writing people up daily if we do not get at least one new loan per day.  So, I will likely be written up daily if that is going to be the case...  I feel like there is no way for me to be successful and don't know if the danger/grief is worth it for a job I know I am not going to stay at longer-term.

[Deleted]

Sorry, Shasta, but this is a bottom-feeder job.  I don't know what you expected.  I've never been in one, and I knew your clientele had the potential to rob and possibly kill you.  You supposedly have $$$ in the store.

I assumed you were cool with that.  You acted like you were.  You talked about the 600+ interest rate your store was charging as if real people weren't paying it.  You seemed to be very proud of your role as manager with your own set of keys to the store.

I would get out in a hurry, but not because I'm too good to wave a sign on a street corner. 

[swamp]

If you are actively looking, and you aren't going to list the job on your resume, keep going and collecting the money.

You know you can't get a loan a day on 7,000 people. Corporate is stupid. You know they are.

[Deleted]

Fiending meth heads/crackheads and hardened criminals on one side, thousands of dollars in cash money on the other side...... I would not want to be the only thing keeping them apart. Nor would I want to be the bitch that can't help those same people because there was a snafu with their Western Union transfer or whatever. I think it's absurd that the policy dictates that she has to go to the bank and come back to the store with thousands of dollars on her. Do they not think people pay attention and word will spread? She might as well have a big red X painted on her back.

I think it's easy to sit in our safe and secure homes and offices and tell shasta to suck it up and deal with it. Have any of you ever been around a crackhead that's fiending? Or somebody hopped up on drugs? Have you ever been face to face with someone who's empty or desperate and wants some money and knows it's right there for the taking? Would you want to? I wouldn't. 

The other things might be excuses, but I think how vulnerable she is because of her job is a real issue. I'd feel horrible if I was part of the group that told her to just put her big girl panties on and keep putting herself in danger, and then something bad happened to her.

I'm not urging you to stay or quit shasta. Do what you feel is best for you. Determine what's an excuse and what's a valid concern and go from there.

[ArchietheDragon]

Sept 28, 2014 21:27:04 GMT -5 @workingshasta said:

I do not feel safe. That is the bottom line. People don't cash $100 checks, they cash $4000 ones.  I have to ask them to stand outside while I go fetch their $4K from the bank. I don't think that is a safe thing to do. Anywhere else, there are 2 people that go together as a requirement. Since I am working alone for the foreseeable future, I have to close the store and do all of the bank running myself.

My parking lot has no lights because all the other businesses close early. I asked for a security light because I can't see to unlock my car and don't think that is too safe either.

That is a terrible policy. 

[Ombud]

Sept 29, 2014 9:30:48 GMT -5 @pinkcshmere said:

I think it's easy to sit in our safe and secure homes and offices and tell shasta to suck it up and deal with it. Have any of you ever been around a crackhead that's fiending? Or somebody hopped up on drugs? Have you ever been face to face with someone who's empty or desperate

That defines my 22 yrs with the county. I'm not saying she could EVER do what I did. But I recall atsahsreborn as being almost desperate for income. Then she gets a minimum wage 'manager' job that's rough. I think we would all do different things if we were in her shoes -- 10 people 10 resolutions -- bottom line: can she live without the job? If not, and the town IS BROKE so don't look to long term jobs there, then what??

[Deleted]

I turned away 12K in check cashing on Saturday. Student loan/PELL Grant payments went out and people wanted to cash them. Our bank is closed on Saturdays, so I have to tell people to either agree to put their cash on a high-fee debit card, or that they have to wait until Monday.

The prison checks are smaller, but many do not have a driver's license to cash them, or balk at the fees. This provides me with more yelling at from customers...

The business I work for is trying to convert from check cashing/payday lending, to high interest loans. CA is going to make PD loans illegal, so they are trying to stay ahead of the curve.

What they failed to take into account, is that most of my local customers are there to cash payroll checks and do not want our debit cards. And, we cannot legally make WU customers load their funds onto one of our cards. So, corporate's answer is that I go to the bank for all transactions. But, they fail to care that I am not a store with multiple workers, where we can use the "buddy system" for banking. It is just me. And, having the customers have to wait outside puts me at danger because I am then in control of large sums of cash without cameras...

What I find is most customers think I am a lying bitch when I tell them I don't have the cash in the store... 

CA released a ton of prisoners recently due to "over-crowding" and since this is a LCOL area, we seem to be getting a high number of these folks in our area. The town I work in is becoming over-run with heroin and meth. This is causing a TON of theft of cars and other items - even in broad daylight.

[ArchietheDragon]

We send out retirement checks once a year and I got a call from a check cashing store where a former employee took a $35k check to be cashed.    Dang!

[zibazinski]

So what if you're written up? Not like they can fire you. Who can they get to do your job?Nobody. That's why you got it. No way would I do that bank thing Who is guarding  the place while you do that? If its another employee, they can go get the cash. They're supposed to be bonded, too, as well as you. I'm sorry but id just say NO to that. As in its not safe unless I have an armed guard with me. I doubt other stores are doing this. Endangering an employees safety can backfire on your ass big time. California is all over everyone business so I doubt this is even legal. 

[Peace77]

I suggest getting a Maglite flashlight, the biggest metal one that you can afford. Carry it with you and use it when you go out to you car at night.

Can you ask the police for an escort to /from the bank ?

[Deleted]

Sept 29, 2014 9:42:56 GMT -5 Ombud said:

Sept 29, 2014 9:30:48 GMT -5 @pinkcshmere said:

I think it's easy to sit in our safe and secure homes and offices and tell shasta to suck it up and deal with it. Have any of you ever been around a crackhead that's fiending? Or somebody hopped up on drugs? Have you ever been face to face with someone who's empty or desperate

That defines my 22 yrs with the county. I'm not saying she could EVER do what I did. But I recall atsahsreborn as being almost desperate for income. Then she gets a minimum wage 'manager' job that's rough. I think we would all do different things if we were in her shoes -- 10 people 10 resolutions -- bottom line: can she live without the job? If not, and the town IS BROKE so don't look to long term jobs there, then what??

You cut off the rest of my sentence where I said they're desperate for some money and know it's right there for the taking. I think having thousands of dollars in cash in the mix ups the stakes. Is that the situation you were in during your 22 years?

[Deleted]

Sept 29, 2014 9:55:15 GMT -5 ArchietheDragon said:

We send out retirement checks once a year and I got a call from a check cashing store where a former employee took a $35k check to be cashed.    Dang!

We had another store receive a 60K check the other day. Thankfully, for the person who worked there, the bank won't give out that kind of cash.

Heck, my local bank turns us away regularly for trying to get cash for our own customers.

[Deleted]

Sept 29, 2014 9:55:56 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

So what if you're written up? Not like they can fire you. Who can they get to do your job?Nobody. That's why you got it. No way would I do that bank thing Who is guarding  the place while you do that? If its another employee, they can go get the cash. They're supposed to be bonded, too, as well as you. I'm sorry but id just say NO to that. As in its not safe unless I have an armed guard with me. I doubt other stores are doing this. Endangering an employees safety can backfire on your ass big time. California is all over everyone business so I doubt this is even legal. 

I am being fingerprinted tomorrow for the bond.