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Post by mmhmm on Sept 19, 2014 18:47:00 GMT -5
Darn, I was hoping to see how it would all unfold if when they voted "yes." Although I'm sure it would have been a big stink for a while, how often do you get to see an event like that in your lifetime? ROFL! I guess the Scots figured their purpose on earth wasn't to provide entertainment for the odd American.
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Post by deziloooooo on Sept 20, 2014 1:45:23 GMT -5
What I thought was interesting was that there was nearly 90% voter turn out. Too bad the US can't seem to elicit these kind of responses in for our elections. Watching BBC last night was interesting, as the results were coming in.... Believe it was 85 %...Remember this was a very special election...the complete remake of the nation...not a normal political election..who would or would not be what ever for a period of time...
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Post by deziloooooo on Sept 20, 2014 1:49:14 GMT -5
Darn, I was hoping to see how it would all unfold if when they voted "yes." Although I'm sure it would have been a big stink for a while, how often do you get to see an event like that in your lifetime? I am guessing you are more a younger one ..not really a zing at you but in a way it's like some wouldn't mind seeing a small dust up between two nuc carrying states..a small one..just one or two going off just to see what the results really were..how bad..is it all that has been talked about..it's been just about 70 years since the last one..so much has changed..Usually those who might feel that way are of the younger side of life..IMHO of course...
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 20, 2014 9:03:45 GMT -5
This is not over, Anytime that 85% show up, which means strong feelings.
55% to 45% means this fight is not over.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 20, 2014 10:25:25 GMT -5
yeah, i think it does. but we'll see.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 20, 2014 11:44:06 GMT -5
What I thought was interesting was that there was nearly 90% voter turn out. Too bad the US can't seem to elicit these kind of responses in for our elections. Watching BBC last night was interesting, as the results were coming in.... totally rational, tho- right? people don't see government as working for them, here- so they don't participate. but how could you NOT have an opinion on Scottish Sovereignty, if you lived in Scotland?
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 20, 2014 11:45:10 GMT -5
A 10% margin when the Yes side was funded by a couple lottery winners on what seems like a bit of a lark.. if I was a British politician I'd be careful how Scotland is treated going forward. that is precisely why i don't ever think we are going to hear about this again.
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Post by deziloooooo on Sept 20, 2014 15:35:54 GMT -5
that is precisely why i don't ever think we are going to hear about this again. It'll be interesting to see if the Brits try to relocate the nukes. That seemed a big sticking point for a lot of Scots. Not something that can be done all that quickly though, and it won't be cheap. Now that the voting is in I don't see that as a necessity..your correct it would be very expensive and they, Brits, are going to need all the $..{lbs} they can find to live up to some of the pre election promises that they have made to not only the Scots but the other three areas of the UK... In a way, now that they are still part of the UK..by a good margin too, 10 % is hugh...one can say it's their price for being part of the nation toward their defense..UK has been and still wants to be one of the Nuclear weapon nations...by the resuklt of the election they are part of the nation..That many Scots don't want that ..you can find naysayers in all the Nuclear arms nations..The US, Russians, French, Indians, Pakistan and all others too I am sure...
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Post by marvholly on Sept 21, 2014 5:19:59 GMT -5
A 10% margin when the Yes side was funded by a couple lottery winners on what seems like a bit of a lark.. if I was a British politician I'd be careful how Scotland is treated going forward. I don't think this is put to bed. I somewhat agree w/Shaun here. It is NOT totally over.
There are going to be some changes in the forseeable future toward greater autonomy.
I do think it WILL come to another vote when the 16 & 17 y/o who were allowed to vote for the first time fully grow up & become the leaders of the countries involved - say another 25-35 years.
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Post by Spellbound454 on Sept 21, 2014 7:03:02 GMT -5
Its started a major row.
More money gets allocated per capita to Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland than to England where most of the money for the UK comes from the South East.
The idea of this is wealth redistribution and areas of most need getting the most money.
People in England are saying "why don't we get equal amounts of our own taxes"
Also Scottish MPs are allowed to vote in Westminster over English issues but not the other way round.
There is a call for devolution in England, not supported by the Labour party for political reasons.... because they would get less support in Westminster.
Bit of wrangling going on.... and a "what happens next?"
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Post by The Captain on Sept 21, 2014 12:46:46 GMT -5
Darn, I was hoping to see how it would all unfold if when they voted "yes." Although I'm sure it would have been a big stink for a while, how often do you get to see an event like that in your lifetime? Already saw one. The break-up of the U.S.S.R. . And the opposite, the reunification of Germany...
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Post by deziloooooo on Sept 21, 2014 18:12:41 GMT -5
A 10% margin when the Yes side was funded by a couple lottery winners on what seems like a bit of a lark.. if I was a British politician I'd be careful how Scotland is treated going forward. I don't think this is put to bed. I somewhat agree w/Shaun here. It is NOT totally over.
There are going to be some changes in the forseeable future toward greater autonomy.
I do think it WILL come to another vote when the 16 & 17 y/o who were allowed to vote for the first time fully grow up & become the leaders of the countries involved - say another 25-35 years.
Actually I believe I read that they allowed 16 year olds to vote on this...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 18:44:05 GMT -5
Already saw one. The break-up of the U.S.S.R. . And the opposite, the reunification of Germany... True!
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