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Post by NancysSummerSip on Aug 25, 2014 10:37:39 GMT -5
We haven't done swimming lessons with the kids yet although it is next on our list. We tried giving DS some simple swimming lessons at the waterpark this weekend and he absolutely refused. I asked him to hold onto the side of the pool and let his body float and he said "I don't want to let my body float". DH tried some simple stuff with DS too and he refused as well. The park was meant for non swimmers - most of the pools DS could easily touch the bottom. But the refusal of listening to us and trying to learn how to float was a little frustrating. I guess we'll have to have someone else give them formal swimming lessons. PS- This waterpark was fantastic. It had lifeguards patrolling every inch of the pools. I bet those lifeguards walk a couple miles everyday they are on duty because each duty station requires them to walk to look around different features. They had lifejackets available in all sizes and most of the pools were less than 2.5' deep. My son still won't really swim. He hates the feeling of floating let alone sticking his face in the water. He will get in and get wet but the actual act of swimming he still hates. He is capable of floating on his back and doggie paddling to the side of the pool. And at his age he can just climb out, but I wanted to warn people this is a clear case of being able to lead the child to water, but NOT being able to make him learn how to swim. and believe me we have spent many hours with him in lessons that he refused to swin in. The fact that he can float, doggie paddle and climb out can still be the difference between survival and drowning. I think you've done a great job getting him that far.
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Post by hoops902 on Aug 25, 2014 10:39:50 GMT -5
::Just so you know, the intex type pools are supposed to be put up with a permit also, but most people don't get one.::
As with all/most permit issues, this is completely dependent upon the local ordinances.
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Post by ArchietheDragon on Aug 25, 2014 10:44:46 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 10:48:36 GMT -5
Just because you know how to swim doesn't mean you are immune to drowning. Lots of swimmers drown every year who wind up getting in bad situations and good swimmers sometimes over estimate their abilities. Years ago, my dad, a great swimmer, almost drown when trying to save my sister from drowning. He got to her and before he got an arm around her neck she climbed onto his shoulders and pushed him under.
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Post by 973beachbum on Aug 25, 2014 11:33:35 GMT -5
My son still won't really swim. He hates the feeling of floating let alone sticking his face in the water. He will get in and get wet but the actual act of swimming he still hates. He is capable of floating on his back and doggie paddling to the side of the pool. And at his age he can just climb out, but I wanted to warn people this is a clear case of being able to lead the child to water, but NOT being able to make him learn how to swim. and believe me we have spent many hours with him in lessons that he refused to swin in. don't you live at the Jersey Shore or am I thinking of another poster? my first day at the beach was 4th of July weekend (I was about 5 weeks old and my parents had just adopted me). my sister was born in October so her first foray into a pool was about 7-8 months and my dad just dropped her in the pool and she went under. we were swimming competitively by ages 4 and 6. I'm always amazed when I meet adults who can't swim and are terrified of water. I consider water safety and the ability to swim/float/etc. to be just as important to teach kids as crossing at a crosswalk. Did you not read what I said? He has had years of lessons, years and years of them. What am I supposed to do. use the Vulcan Mind Meld to make him learn how to swim properly? It would be soooo easy if kids were machines that Virgil could just fix the code to make them do what we want/think they should do. Unfortunately I don't have computers I have kids who insist on being human beings.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 25, 2014 11:35:49 GMT -5
use the Vulcan Mind Meld to make him learn how to swim properly?
You can't use the Vulcan Mind Meld to make people do stuff. You use the Vulcan Mind Meld to read minds. You're thinking Jedi mind tricks. You're dork moment of the day.
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Post by swamp on Aug 25, 2014 11:46:07 GMT -5
use the Vulcan Mind Meld to make him learn how to swim properly?
You can't use the Vulcan Mind Meld to make people do stuff. You use the Vulcan Mind Meld to read minds. You're thinking Jedi mind truicks. You're dork moment of the day. Your dork moment of the day. Brought to you by your grammar Nazi of the day.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Aug 25, 2014 11:47:47 GMT -5
don't you live at the Jersey Shore or am I thinking of another poster? my first day at the beach was 4th of July weekend (I was about 5 weeks old and my parents had just adopted me). my sister was born in October so her first foray into a pool was about 7-8 months and my dad just dropped her in the pool and she went under. we were swimming competitively by ages 4 and 6. I'm always amazed when I meet adults who can't swim and are terrified of water. I consider water safety and the ability to swim/float/etc. to be just as important to teach kids as crossing at a crosswalk. Did you not read what I said? He has had years of lessons, years and years of them. What am I supposed to do. use the Vulcan Mind Meld to make him learn how to swim properly? It would be soooo easy if kids were machines that Virgil could just fix the code to make them do what we want/think they should do. Unfortunately I don't have computers I have kids who insist on being human beings. If it was easy to "make" kids swim, I would not have taken my first lessons at the age of forty. Now, because I'm a Trekkie, if Beach had used that Vulcan Mind Meld thing on me, I might have started sooner. Or just responded with a Vulcan nerve pinch instead.
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Post by 973beachbum on Aug 25, 2014 11:50:16 GMT -5
I don't even understand how he can't absolutely LOVE the water. My kids complain all the time about how boring living at the beach is. I swear if they hadn't come out of my body I demand a DNA test!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 11:53:00 GMT -5
Did you not read what I said? He has had years of lessons, years and years of them. What am I supposed to do. use the Vulcan Mind Meld to make him learn how to swim properly? It would be soooo easy if kids were machines that Virgil could just fix the code to make them do what we want/think they should do. Unfortunately I don't have computers I have kids who insist on being human beings. If it was easy to "make" kids swim, I would not have taken my first lessons at the age of forty. Now, because I'm a Trekkie, if Beach had used that Vulcan Mind Meld thing on me, I might have started sooner. Or just responded with a Vulcan nerve pinch instead. since he can float and swim, he's at least comfortable in the water. I've seen people swimming laps without putting their face in the water. it's not about making them 'swim' so they can join swim team but about them being comfortable around water rather than screaming at the top of their lungs at the age of 10 because they're terrified.
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Post by 973beachbum on Aug 26, 2014 6:19:58 GMT -5
use the Vulcan Mind Meld to make him learn how to swim properly?
You can't use the Vulcan Mind Meld to make people do stuff. You use the Vulcan Mind Meld to read minds. You're thinking Jedi mind tricks. You're dork moment of the day. I may be able to out dork you because I messed up when I said vulcan mind meld, I was thinking of the movie Scanners. Why I still remember that moveie yet forget my kids names when I am staring at them is beyond me!
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Post by Shooby on Aug 26, 2014 6:58:45 GMT -5
Swimming lessons are great, but there is the risk of an overconfident swimmer as well. Swimming in a pool is nothing like swimming in the ocean. So, water safety is always important no matter how a great a swimmer one is.
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Aug 26, 2014 10:11:08 GMT -5
use the Vulcan Mind Meld to make him learn how to swim properly?
You can't use the Vulcan Mind Meld to make people do stuff. You use the Vulcan Mind Meld to read minds. You're thinking Jedi mind tricks. You're dork moment of the day. I may be able to out dork you because I messed up when I said vulcan mind meld, I was thinking of the movie Scanners. Why I still remember that moveie yet forget my kids names when I am staring at them is beyond me! I hear it's a mom thing. I was the only girl, but still got called by my brothers' names.
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Post by ohmomto2boys on Aug 26, 2014 11:15:54 GMT -5
My kids have been in swim lessons for 2 summers now. The oldest can now jump off the diving board and swim to the side/ladder. Younger DS can do this, but is still very timid in deep water (10 ft). He will jump in 4ft (which is over his head), but not the 10ft.
This was a requirement for our boys. This is a life skill we feel they needed to master. #1 rule - never go swimming by yourself. ALWAYS have an adult with you.
DS#1 had a close call a few years ago, he got too close to the drop off to the deep end and couldn't touch. I was watching him (and DH) and yelled - there was an adult inches away from him and she grabbed him. Scary stuff.
They will be back in swim classes next year. They need to be stronger swimmers. They actually love the classes now.
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Post by The Captain on Aug 26, 2014 13:12:38 GMT -5
The rule in our family is never go swimming by yourself, regardless if you are an adult or a child.
Someone we know drowned while swimming by himself. He was a very strong swimmer and to this day we don't know what caused it.
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