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Post by Blonde Granny on Aug 11, 2014 7:46:32 GMT -5
I think eventually companies who drug test for BS reasons, will no longer have that power over people. In my area they already have serious issues hiring people over weed, and many places have stopped drug testing for jobs where it isn't appropriate. I would never, and have never gone to work under the influence of anything. Ever. What I do on my time is my own damn business, and unless I have a job where it really matters, then I don't think it should even be legal to test. Being responsible for the company money doesn't really matter? And if what you do on your own time has the possibility of affecting your job performance, it is more than your own damn business.
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Post by raeoflyte on Aug 11, 2014 7:59:52 GMT -5
I think eventually companies who drug test for BS reasons, will no longer have that power over people. In my area they already have serious issues hiring people over weed, and many places have stopped drug testing for jobs where it isn't appropriate. I would never, and have never gone to work under the influence of anything. Ever. What I do on my time is my own damn business, and unless I have a job where it really matters, then I don't think it should even be legal to test. Being responsible for the company money doesn't really matter? And if what you do on your own time has the possibility of affecting your job performance, it is more than your own damn business. She wouldn't be responsible for the company money when not on the clock, and while there are several long term affects of marijuana that I don't care for, smoking at night isn't going to leave her impaired the next morning. Sent from my ADR6410LVW using proboards
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Post by emma1420 on Aug 11, 2014 9:18:31 GMT -5
I think eventually companies who drug test for BS reasons, will no longer have that power over people. In my area they already have serious issues hiring people over weed, and many places have stopped drug testing for jobs where it isn't appropriate. I would never, and have never gone to work under the influence of anything. Ever. What I do on my time is my own damn business, and unless I have a job where it really matters, then I don't think it should even be legal to test. I thought you were doing a medical coding course? (or am I confusing you with someone else?) Almost every hospital I know requires a drug test for employment. I don't understand why you would want to eliminate a ton of potential employers that way. Or perhaps I am confusing you with someone else. Even so I don't understand what is so appealing about pot that you'd eliminate a ton of potentially good employers. In terms of the work travel. Where I work it depends. For long trips they pay for flights and hotels up front. They always pay for flights in advance, but sometimes if it's a short trip I pay for the hotel and then expense it. All other expenses (meals, etc.) I just get reimbursed. I would be surprised if you were asked to pay for a hotel for 3 weeks, and in fact I probably wouldn't work for an employer that expected me to pay for 3 weeks in a hotel during the training period.
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Post by Blonde Granny on Aug 11, 2014 9:33:38 GMT -5
This is a payday loan company she has applied to. I wouldn't have warm fuzzies about that company.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Aug 11, 2014 9:42:52 GMT -5
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Does anyone besides me think this situation is really strange? The company has a test that no one can pass, pays a pittance and only 1 other employee, but expects Shasta to go for 3 weeks of training? For a job like this?
I would take a step back from this and do some serious checking on this company. Hard tests don't seem that out of the ordinary. And it may not even be that hard, it's just the folks applying for retail type jobs have no skills whatsoever.
The 30k a year range doesn't seem that out of line to me for a entry level retail supervisor position. That's like $15 an hour, if anything I'd think a front line retail supervisor might make a bit less.
I agree the supervising of only one employee is a bit strange, but maybe it's running a small department.
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Post by raeoflyte on Aug 11, 2014 10:26:27 GMT -5
She wouldn't be responsible for the company money when not on the clock, and while there are several long term affects of marijuana that I don't care for, smoking at night isn't going to leave her impaired the next morning. Sent from my ADR6410LVW using proboards can you elaborate on what these are? Bad breath, complacency, victim mentality. Plenty of things that can cause a problem at work such as inability/fear of change, laziness, forgetfulness, but most chronic users I know keep it together at work and its there personal lives and relationships that suffer. The catch though is the question are these caused by weed, or are their underlying issues that they (until recently) self medicated to deal with. Because plenty of users don't have any or even most of these issues. Sent from my ADR6410LVW using proboards
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 13:06:56 GMT -5
I think it is a matter of personal choice.
And, I think it is abusive for employers to be able to test for LEGAL MMJ use. Period.
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Post by TheHaitian on Aug 11, 2014 13:15:35 GMT -5
And, I think it is abusive for employers to be able to test for LEGAL MMJ use. Period Let's agree to disagree And I am no saint. But I will say the following: - beggars cannot be choosers - play by their rules - who has the gold make the rules Anyway, as I said I am no saint. But when I am "job searching" I am sober/clean as Jesus Christ. After I get the job... All bets are off! So if you are "seriously" looking for a job, I would suggest you quit till you officially get a job and pass the drug test. Don't make this your mountain/hill to die on...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 13:19:26 GMT -5
I have to agree with everyone here. you need a job and in order to get a decent one sounds like you may have to change some things in order to pass a drug test.
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Post by The Captain on Aug 11, 2014 13:20:40 GMT -5
He said that rather than have people travel here to train me in a slower store, I would go there to a busier store. The commute would be over 160 miles per day, and so he said they expect to cover me to stay in a hotel and pay my expenses for those three weeks. He said it is hard enough to learn everything without adding a 3+ hour a day commute as well. When we were taking, and after he said he was recommending me for hire, I asked if they run your credit. He said he wasn't sure but didn't think they care about it. I let him know that after my DH passed I filed BK. He said it didn't matter because he had also filed prior to being hired for his job. He said the only thing they do is a background investigation with law enforcement to make sure you do not have any issues there. As for the weed, we can go round and round on that topic all day. I grew up with a raging alcoholic and don't understand people's great objection to weed, but approval of alcohol. That's all I am going to say on the topic. And, the fact that I think it is a generational thing. Good move on your part being pro-active in disclosing this!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 13:20:51 GMT -5
Or, more likely, I will find a job that does not drug test.
I am not "begging" from anyone to give me a job. I already have income.
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Post by swamp on Aug 11, 2014 14:15:07 GMT -5
Nobody apuproves of a raging alcoholic. I wonder how multistate companies will handle this if pot is legal in some of it's states and not in others? What about medical marijuana? how will that factor in? many states have that legalized - and I'm assuming drug screens are checking for prescriptions? Interesting if they are doing drug screenings - but will know if you are taking meds for depression, bipolar, or schizophrenia. That said - I know plenty of people who embraced "clean living" for days-weeks just to pass a test and get a job. Then back to old habits. Why would that be a big deal? to knock it off for a week? She's bipolar. It could potentially be a really big problem. She's probably using it to Medicate herself from wild mood swings, so it's like stopping her paxil cold turkey. Not good. Causes suicidal thoughts.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 14:19:27 GMT -5
Or, more likely, I will find a job that does not drug test. I am not "begging" from anyone to give me a job. I already have income. I thought this job was a significant increase in income plus benefits?
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Post by mollyanna58 on Aug 11, 2014 15:31:51 GMT -5
I think it is a matter of personal choice. And, I think it is abusive for employers to be able to test for LEGAL MMJ use. Period. Legal. I remember the thread when you were pissed because you had to pay a doctor for a prescription for your home grown marijuana. You have made so much admirable progress in your life over the past year. I hope you can continue to move forward.
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Post by greeniis10 on Aug 11, 2014 15:45:05 GMT -5
Okaaaay, so did shasta leave?? What did I miss? Or is it just about the marijuana issue again?
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Post by Blonde Granny on Aug 11, 2014 16:07:14 GMT -5
Yes it appears that Shasta has deleted her membership. As with what was asked of everyone when Carl left, please don't spend your time with speculation as to why.
Let's just accept her decision and move on.
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Post by raeoflyte on Aug 11, 2014 16:08:41 GMT -5
Well before we move on, I'd like to wish Shasta the best luck! And hope that you come back to tell us good news on the job front soon.
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Post by Nazgul Girl on Aug 11, 2014 18:18:46 GMT -5
Well, it always comes down to pot. Good luck and best wishes to her.
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Post by kittensaver on Aug 11, 2014 18:20:43 GMT -5
Well, it always comes down to pot. We all make our choices. And we all have to live with the consequences of our choices.
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Post by hurley1980 on Aug 11, 2014 18:36:45 GMT -5
So Shasta may have left, but in case she's still reading this...
Many, if not all, smoke shops have cleansers you can take, like sports drinks or tea the morning of your test that will have you peeing clean as a whistle. I've used them before, and they have always worked. Most offer double your money back if you fail the test.
I've always been told a safe bet is to give yourself 30 smoke free days before a test, or take a cleanser like i described above. I have pretty severe anxiety, and on top of taking pill meds, I like to smoke after a long stressful day to help me calm down. I really dont see anything wrong with smoking weed, but until the rest of the country sees it that way, smokers are going to have to play by the rules, prescription or not.
Good luck with your job hunt!
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Post by Sunnyday on Aug 11, 2014 18:44:19 GMT -5
So Shasta may have left, but in case she's still reading this... Many, if not all, smoke shops have cleansers you can take, like sports drinks or tea the morning of your test that will have you peeing clean as a whistle. I've used them before, and they have always worked. Most offer double your money back if you fail the test. I've always been told a safe bet is to give yourself 30 smoke free days before a test, or take a cleanser like i described above. I have pretty severe anxiety, and on top of taking pill meds, I like to smoke after a long stressful day to help me calm down. I really dont see anything wrong with smoking weed, but until the rest of the country sees it that way, smokers are going to have to play by the rules, prescription or not. Good luck with your job hunt! I guess that I'm too late to the party! but in the off case that Shasta is reading, I second hurley's advice. most head shops do sell cleanses, and there are homemade versions. google it.
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Post by TheHaitian on Aug 11, 2014 19:49:18 GMT -5
So Shasta may have left, but in case she's still reading this... Many, if not all, smoke shops have cleansers you can take, like sports drinks or tea the morning of your test that will have you peeing clean as a whistle. I've used them before, and they have always worked. Most offer double your money back if you fail the test. I've always been told a safe bet is to give yourself 30 smoke free days before a test, or take a cleanser like i described above. I have pretty severe anxiety, and on top of taking pill meds, I like to smoke after a long stressful day to help me calm down. I really dont see anything wrong with smoking weed, but until the rest of the country sees it that way, smokers are going to have to play by the rules, prescription or not. Good luck with your job hunt! X 3 Get it a cleanser. But I am sorry if I assumed wrongly that you needed a job, seems like you don't and have other source of income. So you might not need the cleanser after all. Again, I am not a saint but I understand that to get a job sometimes you have to play by their rule... Even if you cheat a little! I know the weekend after I passed the drug test for my current company I was high as a kite but before that I was clean as a whistle
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Post by greeniis10 on Aug 12, 2014 13:08:32 GMT -5
Well, I'm sorry to see Shasta go. Her recent progress in her life was very inspiring. I looked forward to her updates. Best wishes with everything, shasta, if you're still reading!
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Post by zibazinski on Aug 12, 2014 15:41:10 GMT -5
I'm sure those posters who care can contact her via pm.
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Post by Blonde Granny on Aug 12, 2014 17:08:34 GMT -5
I'm sure those posters who care can contact her via pm. As long as Shasta has deleted her account, she can't log in. Therefore, she is not able to send or receive any PMs.
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Post by CCL on Aug 12, 2014 21:16:56 GMT -5
Well, I'm sorry to see Shasta go. Her recent progress in her life was very inspiring. I looked forward to her updates. Best wishes with everything, shasta, if you're still reading!
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Aug 12, 2014 21:54:33 GMT -5
Now that Shasta is gone I will never find out why she was doing drugs.
ETA: also, I must be the only one who didn't know she was using drugs.
I am on here a million hours a day - how the hell do I miss so much drama?
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Post by midjd on Aug 12, 2014 22:08:39 GMT -5
I'm more surprised that Cawaiu admitted to doing the same thing... yet no one has said a word.
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Post by msventoux on Aug 12, 2014 22:24:11 GMT -5
Now that Shasta is gone I will never find out why she was doing drugs. ETA: also, I must be the only one who didn't know she was using drugs. I am on here a million hours a day - how the hell do I miss so much drama? Maybe you're the one using drugs. I visit mostly during the evenings after all of the drama has gone down and been cleaned up. I miss all the good stuff.
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Post by whoisjohngalt on Aug 12, 2014 22:25:55 GMT -5
I'm more surprised that Cawaiu admitted to doing the same thing... I didn't even see that part.... Oh and I can't do drugs. I have "slight" control issues - so being drunk or on drugs wouldn't work for me
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