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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 28, 2011 10:26:40 GMT -5
I'm the optimist here, but this shocked even me. I figured people would figure this guy out- I figured that it wouldn't be long that 16% - 17% real unemployment wasn't good for a President.
But this is dramatic:
January 23 -24 "How would you rate President Obama as a leader?" Good / Excellent: 47% Poor 33%
Today: Good / Excellent: 37% Poor 40%
Rasmussen Reports Poll.
A double digit decline-- that's steep, and that means there's momentum. A 17 point swing is huge.
Gallup-- "Approve of President Obama's handling of the economy"
61% Disapprove, 36% Approve
"Approve of President Obama's handling of the deficit"
64% Disapprove, 32% Approve
Oh, my liberal friends...it's over like it hasn't been over since Jimmy Carter. There's no coming back from this. George W. Bush never saw a poll this low-- at his lowest point.
Donald Trump is in a dead heat / margin of error tie with Obama-- that, my friends, spells O V E R.
I for one am relieved. No president has every returned from a - 50% approval on the economy. 49% and you're done. He's at 36%.
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Post by ugonow on Feb 28, 2011 10:36:18 GMT -5
Reagans approval ratings went down to 36 percent...I don't know what they were on the economy alone,but I doubt very good since his first 2 years were in a recession also. At the time of his 2nd State of the Union Address unemployment was at 10.4 percent,which isn't too good.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 28, 2011 10:42:11 GMT -5
*swoons over poll numbers*
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Post by Angel! on Feb 28, 2011 12:51:47 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 28, 2011 12:52:15 GMT -5
The straight "approve / disapprove" number fluctuates. Reagan's 1982 - 1983 dip is one of the more recent / well-known dips of a President that went on to win 49 states. The comment was on the handling of the economy poll. Nobody has survived a sub 50% on the economy going into the election (6 months). So, Obama has time, but when you consider the dramatic shift-- 17 point swing in a month- and in the wrong direction...that's going to be an issue.
And he started out sub 50%. So, he'd have to reverse the 17% swing, and then pick up a few points just to be in "safe" territory-- which is still not "guaranteed" territory- just safe.
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Post by ChiTownVenture on Feb 28, 2011 13:29:02 GMT -5
I'm the optimist here, but this shocked even me. I figured people would figure this guy out- I figured that it wouldn't be long that 16% - 17% real unemployment wasn't good for a President. But this is dramatic: January 23 -24 "How would you rate President Obama as a leader?" Good / Excellent: 47% Poor 33% Today: Good / Excellent: 37% Poor 40% Rasmussen Reports Poll. A double digit decline-- that's steep, and that means there's momentum. A 17 point swing is huge. Gallup-- "Approve of President Obama's handling of the economy" 61% Disapprove, 36% Approve "Approve of President Obama's handling of the deficit" 64% Disapprove, 32% Approve Oh, my liberal friends...it's over like it hasn't been over since Jimmy Carter. There's no coming back from this. George W. Bush never saw a poll this low-- at his lowest point. Donald Trump is in a dead heat / margin of error tie with Obama-- that, my friends, spells O V E R. I for one am relieved. No president has every returned from a - 50% approval on the economy. 49% and you're done. He's at 36%. Do you have some links for this?? I'm not saying I don't believe you but, I'm not finding the same info. The Gallup poll matches the percentages for February 2010www.gallup.com/poll/125678/obama-approval-economy-down-foreign-affairs-up.aspx
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Feb 28, 2011 13:30:49 GMT -5
Karl Rove had them on his little white board on Fox this morning.
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Post by ChiTownVenture on Feb 28, 2011 13:36:38 GMT -5
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 28, 2011 13:41:03 GMT -5
Karl Rove had them on his little white board on Fox this morning. Didn't Fox last week make a mistake on showing poll numbers? They sure transposed these:
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Feb 28, 2011 14:52:19 GMT -5
...imo, I suspect there's a disappointment factor inherent in his re-election chances... some of us aren't "disappointed" by him, because we never set ourselves up to rely on him for anything... others most definitely set their hearts on stuff from him, and are, necessarily, disappointed... and, in my experience, it's hard to overcome that... because, seriously, have you ever tried to "campaign" for forgiveness?
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Post by ugonow on Feb 28, 2011 15:13:20 GMT -5
As I sad,I have not seen an approval rating just on the economy for Reagan.Do you have one?I can't imagine it was very good considering his overall rating was in the tank at his midway point and there was a recession for two years already and ue over 10 percent.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2011 22:43:30 GMT -5
Well, one of thing to remember with polls is that many polling firms still do not use cell phone lists for polling... and by limiting themselves to land lines, they do end up polling a population that is older than the general population, and that can have a significant impact on the accuracy of the poll...
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Post by ed1066 on Mar 1, 2011 1:10:22 GMT -5
Especially if they are polling dead people, where Democrats (particularly in Illinois, New York and Florida) seem to have a 99% favorable rating...
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Post by Value Buy on Mar 1, 2011 8:32:45 GMT -5
If you average "bad polls" together, all you get is bad data.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2011 8:38:07 GMT -5
I generally throw out the highest and lowest and do my own average... They have a mix of polls, some i'd consider right, some left and some more neutral... Some are making use of cell phones now... but i'm not up on which? ... I'll brush up next year
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Post by vonnie6200 on Mar 1, 2011 8:48:25 GMT -5
Especially if they are polling dead people, where Democrats (particularly in Illinois, New York and Florida) seem to have a 99% favorable rating... Unfortunately - the dead still seem to vote in Illinois
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2011 20:45:46 GMT -5
lol! Poor you, poor Krickett.
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