Tennesseer
Member Emeritus
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 21:58:42 GMT -5
Posts: 63,355
|
Post by Tennesseer on Mar 1, 2011 16:06:31 GMT -5
Ronald Reagan died in 2004. He didn't endorse anyone last year or this year. Reread your post.
|
|
|
Post by marjar on Mar 1, 2011 16:11:17 GMT -5
I thought maybe Ronnie was sending messages from the great beyond.
|
|
reasonfreedom
Well-Known Member
Joined: Dec 21, 2010 8:50:21 GMT -5
Posts: 1,722
|
Post by reasonfreedom on Mar 1, 2011 16:12:14 GMT -5
Ok, let me rephrase. Ron Paul was the only candidate in the primary last year and most likely this year to be endorsed for office by Ronald Reagan. I didn't mean to speculate that he was endorsed for Presidency, it was actually congress.
|
|
|
Post by privateinvestor on Mar 1, 2011 16:17:04 GMT -5
Ok, let me rephrase. Ron Paul was the only candidate in the primary last year and most likely this year to be endorsed for office by Ronald Reagan. I didn't mean to speculate that he was endorsed for Presidency, it was actually congress. Then why has Ron Paul always distanced himself from President Reagan and his policies?? Paul is more a libertarian while Reagan was a strong conservative....I just don't see those two agreeing on much of anything except for the age thing...Paul is 74 years old which is about the same age as Reagan when he ran for a second term against Mondale. Let's hope Ron Paul doesn't run again for President...how much more can we take with his whining and complaining about all that is wrong with our government agencies, i.e Treasury, Education, Military, Energy, and etc....I think the country has suffered enough from Ron Paul fatigue...IMHO
|
|
Tennesseer
Member Emeritus
Joined: Dec 20, 2010 21:58:42 GMT -5
Posts: 63,355
|
Post by Tennesseer on Mar 1, 2011 16:17:34 GMT -5
Reasonfreedom-Are you trying to say Ronald Reagan endorsed Ron Paul years ago when Reagan was still alive?
|
|
|
Post by privateinvestor on Mar 1, 2011 16:21:56 GMT -5
Reasonfreedom-Are you trying to say Ronald Reagan endorsed Ron Paul years ago when Reagan was still alive? I thought after Reagan left office he announced he was suffering from Alzheimers and didn't endorse anyone but rather tried to live out his remaining years very privately..
|
|
mmhmm
Administrator
It's a great pity the right of free speech isn't based on the obligation to say something sensible.
Joined: Dec 25, 2010 18:13:34 GMT -5
Posts: 31,770
Today's Mood: Saddened by Events
Location: Memory Lane
Favorite Drink: Water
|
Post by mmhmm on Mar 1, 2011 16:27:11 GMT -5
Freedom, do you mean Ronald Reagan, or Donald Regan, the Secretary of the Treasury? I'm assuming you're talking about Reagan. If you mean Ronald Reagan, he won't be endorsing anyone this year, I'm afraid. LOL, I so spelled that wrong. Ronald Reagan is what I meant. Thanks! I thought you meant Ronald Reagan, but it could be a bit confusing since Regan was the Secretary of the Treasury during Reagan's administration.
|
|
mmhmm
Administrator
It's a great pity the right of free speech isn't based on the obligation to say something sensible.
Joined: Dec 25, 2010 18:13:34 GMT -5
Posts: 31,770
Today's Mood: Saddened by Events
Location: Memory Lane
Favorite Drink: Water
|
Post by mmhmm on Mar 1, 2011 16:28:32 GMT -5
Reasonfreedom-Are you trying to say Ronald Reagan endorsed Ron Paul years ago when Reagan was still alive? I thought after Reagan left office he announced he was suffering from Alzheimers and didn't endorse anyone but rather tried to live out his remaining years very privately.. That's true, if my memory serves me, PI. He was already beginning to feel the effects of Alzheimers, and probably just wanted to relax and enjoy what life he had left.
|
|
|
Post by marjar on Mar 1, 2011 16:29:02 GMT -5
Right before Reagan's 100th, I was reading the comments on MSNBC's site, regarding this anniversary. One person posted that is was great a president lived to be 100 and we should all be celebrating. Sigh.
|
|
mmhmm
Administrator
It's a great pity the right of free speech isn't based on the obligation to say something sensible.
Joined: Dec 25, 2010 18:13:34 GMT -5
Posts: 31,770
Today's Mood: Saddened by Events
Location: Memory Lane
Favorite Drink: Water
|
Post by mmhmm on Mar 1, 2011 16:29:35 GMT -5
Ok, let me rephrase. Ron Paul was the only candidate in the primary last year and most likely this year to be endorsed for office by Ronald Reagan. I didn't mean to speculate that he was endorsed for Presidency, it was actually congress. Then why has Ron Paul always distanced himself from President Reagan and his policies?? Paul is more a libertarian while Reagan was a strong conservative....I just don't see those two agreeing on much of anything except for the age thing...Paul is 74 years old which is about the same age as Reagan when he ran for a second term against Mondale. Let's hope Ron Paul doesn't run again for President...how much more can we take with his whining and complaining about all that is wrong with our government agencies, i.e Treasury, Education, Military, Energy, and etc....I think the country has suffered enough from Ron Paul fatigue...IMHO Here, again, we quite agree, PI.
|
|
reasonfreedom
Well-Known Member
Joined: Dec 21, 2010 8:50:21 GMT -5
Posts: 1,722
|
Post by reasonfreedom on Mar 1, 2011 16:39:18 GMT -5
Reasonfreedom-Are you trying to say Ronald Reagan endorsed Ron Paul years ago when Reagan was still alive? Yes
|
|
reasonfreedom
Well-Known Member
Joined: Dec 21, 2010 8:50:21 GMT -5
Posts: 1,722
|
Post by reasonfreedom on Mar 1, 2011 16:53:03 GMT -5
Ok, let me rephrase. Ron Paul was the only candidate in the primary last year and most likely this year to be endorsed for office by Ronald Reagan. I didn't mean to speculate that he was endorsed for Presidency, it was actually congress. Then why has Ron Paul always distanced himself from President Reagan and his policies?? Paul is more a libertarian while Reagan was a strong conservative....I just don't see those two agreeing on much of anything except for the age thing...Paul is 74 years old which is about the same age as Reagan when he ran for a second term against Mondale. Let's hope Ron Paul doesn't run again for President...how much more can we take with his whining and complaining about all that is wrong with our government agencies, i.e Treasury, Education, Military, Energy, and etc....I think the country has suffered enough from Ron Paul fatigue...IMHO Paul agreed with the policies that Regan ran on, but did not agree with how he changed those once he was in office. "Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country." Ronald Reagan Obviously they agreed on something, maybe you should do your research instead of stating opinions that lack facts. He is not complaining, I believe it would be called criticizing and he does have suggestions on how to the fix the problem. Maybe with your logic nobody should point out the problems and they will magically disappear, that is just sheer genius if you ask me(sarcasm).
|
|
|
Post by marjar on Mar 1, 2011 16:57:08 GMT -5
Ah.........
|
|
|
Post by privateinvestor on Mar 1, 2011 17:04:32 GMT -5
Then why has Ron Paul always distanced himself from President Reagan and his policies?? Paul is more a libertarian while Reagan was a strong conservative....I just don't see those two agreeing on much of anything except for the age thing...Paul is 74 years old which is about the same age as Reagan when he ran for a second term against Mondale. Let's hope Ron Paul doesn't run again for President...how much more can we take with his whining and complaining about all that is wrong with our government agencies, i.e Treasury, Education, Military, Energy, and etc....I think the country has suffered enough from Ron Paul fatigue...IMHO Paul agreed with the policies that Regan ran on, but did not agree with how he changed those once he was in office. "Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country." Ronald Reagan Obviously they agreed on something, maybe you should do your research instead of stating opinions that lack facts. He is not complaining, I believe it would be called criticizing and he does have suggestions on how to the fix the problem. Maybe with your logic nobody should point out the problems and they will magically disappear, that is just sheer genius if you ask me(sarcasm). Ron Paul's days are over and done with...time for him (age 74) to be retired and let his son take on the reign ...Ronald Reagan may have said something about him but is that an endorsement for Paul?? I think NOT Do you endorse Ron Paul's agenda to bring all of our troops home to save trillions of dollars? Do you want to see us go to the Gold Standard as our currency?? Do you want to eliminate the Dept of the Treasury and the Education Dept?? Do agree with Ron Paul that we brought the 9/11 attacks on ourselves because of our failed foreign policies in the Middle East in Lebanon, Kuwait, and Iraq?? These ideas by Ron Paul have been rejected by his peers in congress so why not let old dogs lay?? I know there are Libertarians who think Ron Paul is their hero but I don't share their views..
|
|
reasonfreedom
Well-Known Member
Joined: Dec 21, 2010 8:50:21 GMT -5
Posts: 1,722
|
Post by reasonfreedom on Mar 1, 2011 17:41:37 GMT -5
Paul agreed with the policies that Regan ran on, but did not agree with how he changed those once he was in office. "Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country." Ronald Reagan Obviously they agreed on something, maybe you should do your research instead of stating opinions that lack facts. He is not complaining, I believe it would be called criticizing and he does have suggestions on how to the fix the problem. Maybe with your logic nobody should point out the problems and they will magically disappear, that is just sheer genius if you ask me(sarcasm). Ron Paul's day are over and done with...time for him (age 74) to be retired and let his son take on the reign ...Ronald Reagan may have said something about him but is that an endorsement for Paul?? I think NOT Do you endorse Ron Paul's agenda to bring all of our troops home to save trillions of dollars? Do you want to see us go to the Gold Standard as our currency?? Do you want to eliminate the Dept of the Treasury and the Education Dept?? These ideas by Ron Paul have been rejected by his peers in congress so why not let old dogs lay?? I know there are Libertarians who think Ron Paul is their hero but I don't share their views.. It is good to know that you discriminate by age, that shows to me that you logic is biased. "We need to keep him fighting for our country" Wow, you are right that is nothing like a endorsement(sarcasm once again). I know RP would like to Abolish the Fed Reserve(So did JFK), but I don't recall anything about him wanting to abolish the Treasury dept. Bring home the troops, heck yah. We could better secure our borders that way, and wouldn't have to spend tax dollars on the up keep for bases that are all over the world. I am just curious why we need bases all over the world? To be world police? Why don't other countries pay for the bases then. Gold standard, sure. Gold has been around a lot longer than paper money or electronic money. Dept. of education is doing a great jobs, since our test scores keep falling on the World list. No child left behind, really? What Ron Paul wants to do is keep the education decisions in the hands of the state. Make sense too, just look at the global chain effect we had with the financial crisis. It is easier to deal with problems in a smaller controlled area. I do want to know where you got your information about the treasury dept., I missed that and would like to read up on it. It is libertarian\conservative his voting and ideas obviously show that if you researched him at all. He is not my hero but he seems to be the more logical choice since we are going through bad economic times.
|
|
|
Post by privateinvestor on Mar 1, 2011 17:50:44 GMT -5
Actually I am more impressed with Rand Paul rather than the Old Man....and yes at age 74 the world has passed Ron Paul by... He lost me when during the Republican debates he tried to say our involment in the Middle East was the reason we were attacked by the Muslim Terrorists.. If he is your guy then you can have him and good luck you will need it....but I will bet Ron Paul retires from political life when his congressional term ends....and you might want to research his agenda...re: the Treasury and Education Depts of our government...and his disdain for the Chairman of the Federal Reserve. He wants to eliminate the income tax system and most of our government agencies ...so in summary much too drastic or out of touch with reality..
|
|
|
Post by ed1066 on Mar 1, 2011 17:55:01 GMT -5
Ah, public school, you gotta love it...
|
|
reasonfreedom
Well-Known Member
Joined: Dec 21, 2010 8:50:21 GMT -5
Posts: 1,722
|
Post by reasonfreedom on Mar 1, 2011 18:16:31 GMT -5
Actually I am more impressed with Rand Paul rather than the Old Man....and yes at age 74 the world has passed Ron Paul by... He lost me when during the Republican debates he tried to say our involment in the Middle East was the reason we were attacked by the Muslim Terrorists.. If he is your guy then you can have him and good luck you will need it....but I will bet Ron Paul retires from political life when his congressional term ends....and you might want to research his agenda...re: the Treasury and Education Depts of our government...and his disdain for the Chairman of the Federal Reserve. He wants to eliminate the income tax system and most of our government agencies ...so in summary much too drastic or out of touch with reality.. Yeah, Christopher Columbus, MLK and Einstein's idea were to out of touch with reality and they were wrong.
|
|
|
Post by privateinvestor on Mar 1, 2011 18:18:44 GMT -5
|
|
reasonfreedom
Well-Known Member
Joined: Dec 21, 2010 8:50:21 GMT -5
Posts: 1,722
|
Post by reasonfreedom on Mar 1, 2011 18:26:51 GMT -5
oh, my bad I thought all 4 were the same person. Silly of me to think that any of them thought the current system couldn't work and to make references to systems that didn't work.
|
|
|
Post by privateinvestor on Mar 1, 2011 18:31:30 GMT -5
oh, my bad I thought all 4 were the same person. Silly of me to think that any of them thought the current system couldn't work and to make references to systems that didn't work. We agree it is silly of you I guess???. As well as any discussion about Dr No.....
|
|
Deleted
Joined: Apr 19, 2024 23:23:07 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2011 18:53:43 GMT -5
RP is getting up there. I like him, though. reasonfreedom-- what do you think of Rand? Are they alike? Maybe a better chance to get it across?
|
|
reasonfreedom
Well-Known Member
Joined: Dec 21, 2010 8:50:21 GMT -5
Posts: 1,722
|
Post by reasonfreedom on Mar 1, 2011 20:55:12 GMT -5
RP is getting up there. I like him, though. reasonfreedom-- what do you think of Rand? Are they alike? Maybe a better chance to get it across? Same platform, Rand actually help his father with the campaign last time giving speeches about the same ideas. Which confuses me a little because P.I. mentioned Rand, it must just be the age discrimination thingy. The only thing I could see is that maybe the teaparty would throw him some more votes since he was supported by them through his senate race. I think Rand is still inexperienced in dealing with the older/craftier politicians. If rand can get some of his legistation through with good results he will get more sway with the voters and other politicians. A little more time is needed for Rand I think.
|
|
ungenteel
Familiar Member
Joined: Dec 25, 2010 20:26:26 GMT -5
Posts: 560
|
Post by ungenteel on Mar 2, 2011 1:13:44 GMT -5
to those who throw out Edwards as a lame defense of Newt's indiscretion, ... give up on your tactic... of the best defense is a good offense .. Edwards was an a-hole as is Newt .. two wrongs don't make a right .. Newt is disgusting, as is Edwards
|
|
|
Post by privateinvestor on Mar 2, 2011 7:09:07 GMT -5
to those who throw out Edwards as a lame defense of Newt's indiscretion, ... give up on your tactic... of the best defense is a good offense .. Edwards was an a-hole as is Newt .. two wrongs don't make a right .. Newt is disgusting, as is Edwards Can't you make the same claim about most politicians of the opposition party....if you are a dem then all of the repubs are a-holes, and if you are a repub then all the dems are flaming a -holes......dems all have that so called "flaming" thing..
|
|
workpublic
Junior Associate
Catch and release please
Joined: Dec 30, 2010 14:01:48 GMT -5
Posts: 5,551
Favorite Drink: Heineken
|
Post by workpublic on Mar 2, 2011 9:06:48 GMT -5
he tried to say our involment in the Middle East was the reason we were attacked by the Muslim Terrorists
what is the reason(besides the reason for everything, money)
OBL's "tipping point" was the stationing and remaining of American troops on saudi soil in 1991 for desert storm(gulf I)
|
|
|
Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Mar 2, 2011 11:53:19 GMT -5
...lots of politicians say the PC thing one day, and then say the new and improved PC thing the next day... in forums such as this, we Monday-morning-quarterback them for fun... ...and OBL's tipping point comes from much deeper than that... our occupying Saudi soil was just his "talking point," imo... ETA: having said all that, I doubt I'd vote for Newt... I'd vote for me... ;D
|
|
AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP
Distinguished Associate
Joined: Dec 21, 2010 11:59:07 GMT -5
Posts: 31,709
Favorite Drink: Sweetwater 420
|
Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Mar 2, 2011 12:07:39 GMT -5
he tried to say our involment in the Middle East was the reason we were attacked by the Muslim Terrorists what is the reason(besides the reason for everything, money) OBL's "tipping point" was the stationing and remaining of American troops on saudi soil in 1991 for desert storm(gulf I) You really need to learn the difference between "tipping point" and "excuse". Nothing pushed Usama over the edge. He was already over the edge, but he used our defending Kuwait from Iraqi invaders as a propaganda tool to incite islamist extremist violence. And with the help of the left, he has largely continued to use our involvement in the region as propaganda. I mean when you have our own President saying Gitmo (which he hasn't closed yet, btw) is the number one recruiting tool for al qaeda-- what do you expect Usama to do?
|
|
Deleted
Joined: Apr 19, 2024 23:23:07 GMT -5
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2011 18:25:52 GMT -5
" our defending Kuwait from Iraqi invaders "
Thats a very nice summarization there... lol...
|
|
|
Post by Mkitty is pro kitty on Mar 3, 2011 18:03:54 GMT -5
Hate to break it to you all, but Newt is ineligible to run for President. Newt Gingrich Declares: "I Am Not A Citizen Of The World!" www.huffingtonpost.com/linda-milazzo/newt-gingrich-declares-i_b_212968.htmlMaybe he can run for President of Alpha Conservatari IX or whatever world he's a citizen of, but he can't be President of the United States of planet Earth. Most of the polls seem to have him as a distant third or fourth in the primaries at this time. I don't know how he could improve his standings. www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.htmlHere's an interesting Obama vs ... prediction polls www.nationalpolls.com/OBAMA 39 OTHER 54 (Wow, whoever that Other guy is, he sure is beating Obama ) OBAMA 41 ROMNEY 40 OBAMA 48 PALIN 35 OBAMA 43 HUCKABEE 40 OBAMA 45 JEB BUSH 37 OBAMA 42 CHRISTIE 30 OBAMA 43 TEA PARTY 32 (Hey wait, the tea Party isn't even 35 years old, and where's it's birth certificate? ) No mention of Gingrich there.
|
|