Newt Gingrich For President??

[mmhmm]

That old lizard has always given me the heebie-jeebies. I really don't believe it can slither into the White House after all that's gone before.

[ed1066]

such as Newt cheating while attempting to empeach Clinton for the same thing to be a reason I wouldn't choose to support a candidate.

Do you believe Clinton was impeached for cheating on his wife?

[Gardening Grandma]

Well, I think he's gonna be a hard sell for the evangelicals

[Gardening Grandma]

Mar 1, 2011 14:20:57 GMT -5 @ed1066 said:

such as Newt cheating while attempting to empeach Clinton for the same thing to be a reason I wouldn't choose to support a candidate.

Do you believe Clinton was impeached for cheating on his wife?

Oh come off it Ed. They tried to impeach him because they didn't like the election outcome. They SAID it was because he lied under oath. They repeatedly asked him about sex. They were fixated on sex because that's all they could get him on. And Newtie was out there indignantly talking about "family values" and "what will we tell the children" at the same time he was sthupping a staffer.
Get real..

[ed1066]

They SAID it was because he lied under oath

He did lie under oath, and that's an impeachable offense for a president. Seems pretty cut and dry to me...unless you have some new evidence we never saw?

[Deleted]

Remember, ed-- BJs are not sex...

[Gardening Grandma]

So that's how you're gonna sell the Newt to the evangelicals? "Clinton did it"?

[steff]

I'm not going to play your game today ed.... I stated my opinion regarding politicians having affairs, which btw, applies to both Repub & Dem politicians. I also stated my opinion that I find the hypocritical aspects of politics when it comes to affairs.

If you don't like my opinion, please feel free to skip over it.... but there's nothing that says I need to play your little rabid attack game.

[reasonfreedom]

Newt won't get it, I think Ron Paul might have a chance this year. Knowing that the Tea Party was a big supporter of his son, I think they will be more likely to vote for RP than newt. RP was getting up to 12% in some states in the primaries and now that his campaign will have more time and more money( they are already doing internet money bombs) he will have a good chance. I am pretty positive all the voters that voted for him last time will show up again, so he pretty much has no where but up to go on the votes.

Seriously, you guys/gals are using the words "values and morals" in regards to politicians don't you think that is a bit naive?

[BeenThere...DoneThat...]

<<< been there done that 2012. >>>

...or krickitt?

[BeenThere...DoneThat...]

<<< you guys/gals are using the words "values and morals" in regards to politicians don't you think that is a bit naive? >>>

...because, like many, we tend to make a judgment on character... or demonstrated character... in the workplace, in the community, on TV... Charlie Sheen types aside, the populace likes likable, dependable, apple-pie types... we roll those adjectives into the "morals" dept....

[BeenThere...DoneThat...]

...my first campaign promise is to not betray my spouse or my country... in that order...
;D


ETA: these are actually old promises, since I made the one at the wedding and the other when I signed my first passport... but now I'm announcing it to you, my constituency...

[Deleted]

Not me, been there. I don't qualify to run-- but I can sure as hell vote.

[Deleted]

Love how the sheep protect their own. All you need is power.

[BeenThere...DoneThat...]

...yes, interesting...
...so, krickitt, would you be eligible to hold a cabinet position? I'd think you could be my usdot or commerce go-to-guy... I'd refrain from appointing czars, however tempting... so you couldn't be one of those and avoid filing taxes or something like that...
;D

[Gardening Grandma]

Mar 1, 2011 14:50:09 GMT -5 reasonfreedom said:

Newt won't get it, I think Ron Paul might have a chance this year. Knowing that the Tea Party was a big supporter of his son, I think they will be more likely to vote for RP than newt. RP was getting up to 12% in some states in the primaries and now that his campaign will have more time and more money( they are already doing internet money bombs) he will have a good chance. I am pretty positive all the voters that voted for him last time will show up again, so he pretty much has no where but up to go on the votes.

That could be very interesting. Do you think the establishment Reps will allow it?

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Mar 1, 2011 14:16:28 GMT -5 steff said:

I've always thought that affairs should be handled between the husband and wife...the media and everyone else doesn't need to add their 2 cents or chime in. There's always more than enough other reasons to dislike or not vote for politicians other than because they screwed around on their spouse.

With that said, I do find the hypocritical aspects, such as Newt cheating while attempting to empeach Clinton for the same thing to be a reason I wouldn't choose to support a candidate.

I disagree. I think an affair is indicative of a candidate's truthfulness. If they'll say one thing, and do another in their marriage-- it's definitely cause for concern.

You're wrong that Clinton was impeached for having an affair. He was the President of The United States, and he lied to a grand jury. And he didn't just lie about sex.

[mmhmm]

Mar 1, 2011 14:50:09 GMT -5 reasonfreedom said:

Newt won't get it, I think Ron Paul might have a chance this year. Knowing that the Tea Party was a big supporter of his son, I think they will be more likely to vote for RP than newt. RP was getting up to 12% in some states in the primaries and now that his campaign will have more time and more money( they are already doing internet money bombs) he will have a good chance. I am pretty positive all the voters that voted for him last time will show up again, so he pretty much has no where but up to go on the votes.

Seriously, you guys/gals are using the words "values and morals" in regards to politicians don't you think that is a bit naive?

You're darned right it's naive! There are no mom-and-apple-pie politicians. They're in it for the money and the power. Doesn't matter which side of the fence they're braying on, they're all after the same things, and just because a politician in the "other party" did something reprehensible, it's not an excuse, or an explanation for one of the opposite party doing the same, or worse. That's just defensive rhetoric and not worthy of the time it takes to read it.

[BeenThere...DoneThat...]

<<< Do you think the establishment Reps will allow it? >>>

...imho, I think there's a good chance at that...

[BeenThere...DoneThat...]

<<< Doesn't matter which side of the fence they're braying on >>>

...but elephants don't bray, they trumpet... ;D

[ed1066]

You're wrong that Clinton was impeached for having an affair. He was the President of The United States, and he lied to a grand jury. And he didn't just lie about sex.

I aready pointed that out, but when it comes to Clinton, some people prefer to put their fingers in their ears and yell "LA, LA, LA, LA, LA"...

[privateinvestor]

Ole Newtie is a sharp politician and when asked about Clinton, his marital infidelities and etc he always says that he has addressed those issues ad infinitum in the past and prefers not to get into them again...if he does decide to run for President you can bet he will be a thorn in Obama's side and go after him on his foreign and domestic policies and tear them apart and then throw them back at Obama to defend......IMHO

[reasonfreedom]

Mar 1, 2011 15:34:40 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Mar 1, 2011 14:50:09 GMT -5 reasonfreedom said:

Newt won't get it, I think Ron Paul might have a chance this year. Knowing that the Tea Party was a big supporter of his son, I think they will be more likely to vote for RP than newt. RP was getting up to 12% in some states in the primaries and now that his campaign will have more time and more money( they are already doing internet money bombs) he will have a good chance. I am pretty positive all the voters that voted for him last time will show up again, so he pretty much has no where but up to go on the votes.

That could be very interesting. Do you think the establishment Reps will allow it?

I don't think the establishment republicans have as much sway as they did last year. I think Ron Paul's revolution last year was a big factor on how the tea party came to be and look at the republicans trying to act like the tea party is part of their own establishment. I think they are scared that these grassroot movements will actually tear down their walls and I hope it does on both sides Democrats and Republicans. I think both sides don't even come close to representing their origins anymore.

[reasonfreedom]

Oh yeah, if people are looking for the Regan type( meaning what Regan initially stood for and not what he turned into) Ron Paul was the only candidate that was endorsed by Ronald Regan last year and most likely this year.

[marjar]

Mar 1, 2011 15:45:36 GMT -5 @privateinvestor said:

Ole Newtie is a sharp politician and when asked about Clinton, his marital infidelities and etc he always says that he has addressed those issues ad infinitum in the past and prefers not to get into them again...if he does decide to run for President you can bet he will be a thorn in Obama's side and go after him on his foreign and domestic policies and tear them apart and then throw them back at Obama to defend......IMHO

Isn't that a bit of of a cop out on his part?

[marjar]

Mar 1, 2011 15:49:59 GMT -5 reasonfreedom said:

Oh yeah, if people are looking for the Regan type( meaning what Regan initially stood for and not what he turned into) Ron Paul was the only candidate that was endorsed by Ronald Regan last year and most likely this year.

Huh?

[mmhmm]

Mar 1, 2011 15:39:09 GMT -5 BeenThere...DoneThat... said:

<<< Doesn't matter which side of the fence they're braying on >>>

...but elephants don't bray, they trumpet... ;D

Okay, trumpeting. I don't care whether they're braying, or trumpeting. They're politicians. What they say doesn't mean a darned thing! ;D

[mmhmm]

Freedom, do you mean Ronald Reagan, or Donald Regan, the Secretary of the Treasury? I'm assuming you're talking about Reagan. If you mean Ronald Reagan, he won't be endorsing anyone this year, I'm afraid.

[reasonfreedom]

Mar 1, 2011 15:55:22 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Freedom, do you mean Ronald Reagan, or Donald Regan, the Secretary of the Treasury? I'm assuming you're talking about Reagan. If you mean Ronald Reagan, he won't be endorsing anyone this year, I'm afraid.

LOL, I so spelled that wrong. Ronald Reagan is what I meant.

[reasonfreedom]

Mar 1, 2011 15:53:13 GMT -5 @marjar said:

Mar 1, 2011 15:49:59 GMT -5 reasonfreedom said:

Oh yeah, if people are looking for the Regan type( meaning what Regan initially stood for and not what he turned into) Ron Paul was the only candidate that was endorsed by Ronald Regan last year and most likely this year.

Huh?

What don't you get about it?